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Muslims and freedom

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bmw wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 2:53 pm
TC Talks wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 2:51 pm I absolutely hate white conservatives
FIFY.
As an ordained clergy, I can definitely say it's White Christian Nationalists. They are the evil spoken about in the scriptures.

You, in particular, idolize a false prophet and proselytize about him constantly.
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bmw wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 3:12 pm
Rate This wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 2:56 pm Does it occur to you that the people who are radical in your eyes think you’re radical too?
Yes, and that is exactly why I don't want them in power.

But there's a difference. I think even the most radical among us should have the same rights as everybody else. I'm not convinced those on the far left feel the same way about those who they view as radical.
I’m not convinced the far right feels certain groups should be alive let alone have rights or anything radical like that.
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The Islamophobia is out of control. The Troy Church of Christ burnt down, and every MAGAT is blaming Muslims. Some blaming Abdul El Sayed.
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Matt wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 3:15 pm
bmw wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 1:19 pm
Matt wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 11:50 am White Christian Nationalism has been a massive failure - any thoughts on that?
There are 13 countries around the world that recognize Christianity as their state religion. Here is how they score on the freedom index:

Denmark - 97
Iceland - 95
*Tuvalu - 93
Liechtenstein - 90
Malta - 88
Costa Rica - 86
Greece - 85
*Samoa - 84
Monaco - 82
Armenia - 54
*Zambia - 53
Georgia - 51
Vatican City - ?
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Avg - 80
*Denotes country that is not majority white

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So, to answer your question - it looks like objectively speaking, countries which Christianity as their state religion are more free that the worldwide average for all countries, and significantly more free than Muslim-majority countries.
Your hero, a White Christian Nationalist, has the audacity to wear the estimated number (45-47) of women and children he's been credibly accused of raping. Of course, there are many examples of White Christian Nationalists saying women should just enjoy a rape.
Add to that all of the hate crimes they commit against LGBTQ people. In this country, it is never the Muslims doing it. Always the KKKonservatives. I won’t shut up. They have made my life a living hell.
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While we’re here bitching about Muslims, may I remind you that your boy is still going after freedom of speech just because he doesn’t like ABC’s content.

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MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 5:12 pm
Matt wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 3:15 pm
bmw wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 1:19 pm
Matt wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 11:50 am White Christian Nationalism has been a massive failure - any thoughts on that?
There are 13 countries around the world that recognize Christianity as their state religion. Here is how they score on the freedom index:

Denmark - 97
Iceland - 95
*Tuvalu - 93
Liechtenstein - 90
Malta - 88
Costa Rica - 86
Greece - 85
*Samoa - 84
Monaco - 82
Armenia - 54
*Zambia - 53
Georgia - 51
Vatican City - ?
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Avg - 80
*Denotes country that is not majority white

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So, to answer your question - it looks like objectively speaking, countries which Christianity as their state religion are more free that the worldwide average for all countries, and significantly more free than Muslim-majority countries.
Your hero, a White Christian Nationalist, has the audacity to wear the estimated number (45-47) of women and children he's been credibly accused of raping. Of course, there are many examples of White Christian Nationalists saying women should just enjoy a rape.
Add to that all of the hate crimes they commit against LGBTQ people. In this country, it is never the Muslims doing it. Always the KKKonservatives. I won’t shut up. They have made my life a living hell.
Seriously? I'm LGBTQ as well and it's nothing like you describe. You shouldn't be worried about Trump going after us, where your concerns should be is the Moslem religion. The Moslem religion is totally against our lifestyle. Do you know we are executed in Moslem countries because we're LGBTQ. Abdul El Sayed is a Egyptian Moslem and they are against us. On a final note if more Muslims continue to get in our government the more of our LGBTQ rights will be taken away from us. Please do your research on the Muslim religion and why LGBTQ is not accepted by Muslims. Now stop hiding under your kitchen table.
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Casey wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 7:14 pm
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 5:12 pm
Matt wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 3:15 pm
bmw wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 1:19 pm
Matt wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 11:50 am White Christian Nationalism has been a massive failure - any thoughts on that?
There are 13 countries around the world that recognize Christianity as their state religion. Here is how they score on the freedom index:

Denmark - 97
Iceland - 95
*Tuvalu - 93
Liechtenstein - 90
Malta - 88
Costa Rica - 86
Greece - 85
*Samoa - 84
Monaco - 82
Armenia - 54
*Zambia - 53
Georgia - 51
Vatican City - ?
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Avg - 80
*Denotes country that is not majority white

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So, to answer your question - it looks like objectively speaking, countries which Christianity as their state religion are more free that the worldwide average for all countries, and significantly more free than Muslim-majority countries.
Your hero, a White Christian Nationalist, has the audacity to wear the estimated number (45-47) of women and children he's been credibly accused of raping. Of course, there are many examples of White Christian Nationalists saying women should just enjoy a rape.
Add to that all of the hate crimes they commit against LGBTQ people. In this country, it is never the Muslims doing it. Always the KKKonservatives. I won’t shut up. They have made my life a living hell.
Seriously? I'm LGBTQ as well and it's nothing like you describe. You shouldn't be worried about Trump going after us, where your concerns should be is the Moslem religion. The Moslem religion is totally against our lifestyle. Do you know we are executed in Moslem countries because we're LGBTQ. Abdul El Sayed is a Egyptian Moslem and they are against us. On a final note if more Muslims continue to get in our government the more of our LGBTQ rights will be taken away from us. Please do your research on the Muslim religion and why LGBTQ is not accepted by Muslims. Now stop hiding under your kitchen table.
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Back in the early 70's, Coleman Young was running for mayor against some white police chief. I was a smart ass teenager who wanted to impress my friends and wrote into the Detroit News stating I was a devout Moslem, but voting for the white guy, only because I wanted to see the name I completely made up printed in the paper. Abdul Ben-Dzug. They printed the letter. Week later, somebody wrote in saying Abdul Ben-Dzug is a fraud (true!) because there is no such thing as a "Moslem". Another week passed and another letter was printed that said, Muslim-Moslem controversy ended, as some preacher wrote in defending me...er, Abdul. Somewhere I still have these news clippings and will try and find them.

I dont know what the point of my post was outside of this thread got me thinking of something I hadn't thought of in decades.

Back to the fight....
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Honeyman wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 7:58 pm Back in the early 70's, Coleman Young was running for mayor against some white police chief. I was a precocious teenager and wrote into the Detroit News stating I was a Moslem, but voting for the white guy, only because I wanted to see the name I made up printed in the paper. Abdul Ben-Dzug. They printed the letter. Week later, somebody wrote in saying Abdul Ben-Dzug is a fraud (true!) because there is no such thing as a "Moslem". Another week passed and another letter was printed that said, Muslim-Moslem controversy ended, as some preacher wrote in defending me...er, Abdul. Somewhere I still have these news clippings and will try and find them.

I dont know what the point of my post was outside of this thread got me thinking of something I hadn't thought of in decades.

Back to the fight....
That’s a pretty cool story, I’m glad they got fooled. :lol
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Robert Faygo wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2026 11:10 pm Your fear is 100% irrational.

I encourage you to spend a week or two in Dearborn and document how freedom is alive and well.

Unless that scares you.
I don't know about Dearborn, but in neighboring Dearborn Heights, the Muslims are celebrating Lindsey Graham's death and praying for Allah to take Donald Trump's life. This a few weeks ago at the 2nd largest Mosque in the state of Michigan and one of the larger ones in the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fzdPvrzzN8

Jump to the 7:05 mark.

So does it scare me? Frankly, yes. I would not visit a place where people very dedicated to their religion are celebrating the death of one of this country's leaders and praying for the death of its top leader. That doesn't sound like a peaceful people to me.
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Casey wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 7:14 pm
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 5:12 pm
Matt wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 3:15 pm
bmw wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 1:19 pm
Matt wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 11:50 am White Christian Nationalism has been a massive failure - any thoughts on that?
There are 13 countries around the world that recognize Christianity as their state religion. Here is how they score on the freedom index:

Denmark - 97
Iceland - 95
*Tuvalu - 93
Liechtenstein - 90
Malta - 88
Costa Rica - 86
Greece - 85
*Samoa - 84
Monaco - 82
Armenia - 54
*Zambia - 53
Georgia - 51
Vatican City - ?
=====================
Avg - 80
*Denotes country that is not majority white

-----------------------

So, to answer your question - it looks like objectively speaking, countries which Christianity as their state religion are more free that the worldwide average for all countries, and significantly more free than Muslim-majority countries.
Your hero, a White Christian Nationalist, has the audacity to wear the estimated number (45-47) of women and children he's been credibly accused of raping. Of course, there are many examples of White Christian Nationalists saying women should just enjoy a rape.
Add to that all of the hate crimes they commit against LGBTQ people. In this country, it is never the Muslims doing it. Always the KKKonservatives. I won’t shut up. They have made my life a living hell.
Seriously? I'm LGBTQ as well and it's nothing like you describe. You shouldn't be worried about Trump going after us, where your concerns should be is the Moslem religion. The Moslem religion is totally against our lifestyle. Do you know we are executed in Moslem countries because we're LGBTQ. Abdul El Sayed is a Egyptian Moslem and they are against us. On a final note if more Muslims continue to get in our government the more of our LGBTQ rights will be taken away from us. Please do your research on the Muslim religion and why LGBTQ is not accepted by Muslims. Now stop hiding under your kitchen table.
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Forgive a straight guy for getting into this debate but Casey clearly has a point in that you cant absolve Muslims for their consistent beliefs....and by consistent, I mean centuries....that anything even close to LBGTQ is against the beliefs of the religion.
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Honeyman wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2026 9:10 pm Forgive a straight guy for getting into this debate but Casey clearly has a point in that you cant absolve Muslims for their consistent beliefs....and by consistent, I mean centuries....that anything even close to LBGTQ is against the beliefs of the religion.
Most would say the same thing about the Bible. But leave it to the straight cis funny mentals to rewrite history.
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bmw wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2026 7:45 pm
Robert Faygo wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2026 11:10 pm Your fear is 100% irrational.

I encourage you to spend a week or two in Dearborn and document how freedom is alive and well.

Unless that scares you.
I don't know about Dearborn, but in neighboring Dearborn Heights, the Muslims are celebrating Lindsey Graham's death and praying for Allah to take Donald Trump's life. This a few weeks ago at the 2nd largest Mosque in the state of Michigan and one of the larger ones in the US.
As a Christian, I understand where they are coming from. Who doesn't want Satan and his deciples removed from the face of the earth. I bet half of Americans wouldn't mind that fate if it meant getting rid of them.
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bmw wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2026 7:45 pm
Robert Faygo wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2026 11:10 pm Your fear is 100% irrational.

I encourage you to spend a week or two in Dearborn and document how freedom is alive and well.

Unless that scares you.
I don't know about Dearborn, but in neighboring Dearborn Heights, the Muslims are celebrating Lindsey Graham's death and praying for Allah to take Donald Trump's life. This a few weeks ago at the 2nd largest Mosque in the state of Michigan and one of the larger ones in the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fzdPvrzzN8

Jump to the 7:05 mark.

So does it scare me? Frankly, yes. I would not visit a place where people very dedicated to their religion are celebrating the death of one of this country's leaders and praying for the death of its top leader. That doesn't sound like a peaceful people to me.
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