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Re: UAW Strike

Post by zzand » Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:58 am

Great question BMW, I have no idea.



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Re: UAW Strike

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:33 pm

We're bound to see lots of propaganda. The wage increase will likely end up being increased to just over inflation. These folks have had a 6% increase while inflation is 19%! I stand with the union workers. Anything less than 25% is criminal when a company makes billions of dollars.
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Re: UAW Strike

Post by Rate This » Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:50 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:33 pm
We're bound to see lots of propaganda. The wage increase will likely end up being increased to just over inflation. These folks have had a 6% increase while inflation is 19%! I stand with the union workers. Anything less than 25% is criminal when a company makes billions of dollars.
Where is inflation 19%? About the most we had for a hot minute was about 9%…

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Re: UAW Strike

Post by Matt » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:11 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:33 pm
We're bound to see lots of propaganda. The wage increase will likely end up being increased to just over inflation. These folks have had a 6% increase while inflation is 19%! I stand with the union workers. Anything less than 25% is criminal when a company makes billions of dollars.
How are you going to buy a car, chief?
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Re: UAW Strike

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:33 pm

Rate This wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:50 pm
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:33 pm
We're bound to see lots of propaganda. The wage increase will likely end up being increased to just over inflation. These folks have had a 6% increase while inflation is 19%! I stand with the union workers. Anything less than 25% is criminal when a company makes billions of dollars.
Where is inflation 19%? About the most we had for a hot minute was about 9%…
Cumulative inflation since the bailouts.
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[quote=MotorCityRadioFreak post_id=756973 time=<a href="tel:1694813590">1694813590</a> user_id=15378]
We're bound to see lots of propaganda. The wage increase will likely end up being increased to just over inflation. These folks have had a 6% increase while inflation is 19%! I stand with the union workers. Anything less than 25% is criminal when a company makes billions of dollars.
How are you going to buy a car, chief?
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I will buy used or use mass transit if need be. I don’t think the impact on car prices will be as bad as the corporate bootlickers say anyways.
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Re: UAW Strike

Post by Turkeytop » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:59 pm

There's a disconect between the cost of labour and the final price for the vehicle. GM pulled production of the Equinox out of Canada and moved it to Mexico to exploit the cheap labour. Then, they promptly almost doubled the price for the Equinox.
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Re: UAW Strike

Post by TC Talks » Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:03 pm

Matt wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:53 am
Rate This wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:52 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:45 pm
Solidarity Forever.
I pass Lansing Delta assembly three days a week… if they are out there I will blow the horn on the bus in solidarity… we used to be Union so I get it.
I'd recommend extending the middle finger instead.
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Re: UAW Strike

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:24 pm

Mary Barra’s pay is directly linked to how much she can underpay the average line worker: https://newrepublic.com/post/175598/gm- ... tid=Zxz2cZ
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Re: UAW Strike

Post by Matt » Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:38 am

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:24 pm
Mary Barra’s pay is directly linked to how much she can underpay the average line worker: https://newrepublic.com/post/175598/gm- ... tid=Zxz2cZ
This is a bullshit article and premise. 32 hours is probably about a third or less of Mary Barra's work week, btw.
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Re: UAW Strike

Post by Matt » Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:38 am

TC Talks wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:03 pm
Matt wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:53 am
Rate This wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:52 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:45 pm
Solidarity Forever.
I pass Lansing Delta assembly three days a week… if they are out there I will blow the horn on the bus in solidarity… we used to be Union so I get it.
I'd recommend extending the middle finger instead.
Being underpaid without collective bargaining can create jealous feels Matt... Let them out.
I'm not underpaid.
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Re: UAW Strike

Post by km1125 » Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:25 am

Instead of just a flat wage increase or cutting the hours (while getting paid for the full 40, and having to pay OT on those extra hours), I'm surprised there's not more of a discussion about increasing the profit sharing component. That way if (when) the economy takes a dump you're not shedding all those highly-paid hourly workers immediately. There's just a much smaller profit sharing check.

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Re: UAW Strike

Post by Rate This » Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:39 am

Matt wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:38 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:24 pm
Mary Barra’s pay is directly linked to how much she can underpay the average line worker: https://newrepublic.com/post/175598/gm- ... tid=Zxz2cZ
This is a bullshit article and premise. 32 hours is probably about a third or less of Mary Barra's work week, btw.
So you think she puts in 96 hours a week? I highly doubt it’s much over 60.

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Re: UAW Strike

Post by bmw » Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:44 am

The reason the workers aren't particularly interested in profit-sharing is because they're not particularly interested in how well the company does. All they see is big $$$ in front of their respective company's CEO's salary and jealousy ensues, and because the CEO makes too much money in their minds, they assume the company doesn't care about them.

A workforce that doesn't respect the company it works for is exactly what leads to these kinds of problems. Now I know the other side going to say "BUT BUT BUT the company doesn't care about its workers!!!!" to which I would respond each company in question is a publicly traded company, and when you choose to work for a publicly traded company, you know going in that their top priority is company profit. But even that said, aren't the UAW workers as a group making significantly more than the median wage in this country, even before any deal gets done?

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Re: UAW Strike

Post by Matt » Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:51 am

Rate This wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:39 am
Matt wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:38 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:24 pm
Mary Barra’s pay is directly linked to how much she can underpay the average line worker: https://newrepublic.com/post/175598/gm- ... tid=Zxz2cZ
This is a bullshit article and premise. 32 hours is probably about a third or less of Mary Barra's work week, btw.
So you think she puts in 96 hours a week? I highly doubt it’s much over 60.
The ignorance of a union supporter...
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Re: UAW Strike

Post by km1125 » Sat Sep 16, 2023 10:13 am

bmw wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:44 am
The reason the workers aren't particularly interested in profit-sharing is because they're not particularly interested in how well the company does. All they see is big $$$ in front of their respective company's CEO's salary and jealousy ensues, and because the CEO makes too much money in their minds, they assume the company doesn't care about them.

A workforce that doesn't respect the company it works for is exactly what leads to these kinds of problems. Now I know the other side going to say "BUT BUT BUT the company doesn't care about its workers!!!!" to which I would respond each company in question is a publicly traded company, and when you choose to work for a publicly traded company, you know going in that their top priority is company profit. But even that said, aren't the UAW workers as a group making significantly more than the median wage in this country, even before any deal gets done?
Sadly, that's 100% true.

Most won't promote the product they build and encourage folks to buy them. The only way they MIGHT participate is by passing along the discounts they're allowed as a company employee.

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