I'll preface this by saying I am not as wise as many of you about the inner workings of a political party. The behind closed doors dealings. The reach arounds. That sort of thing.
But I can't shag the feeling just about every Republican would rather not have Trump as president. So let's say he ends up winning every primary from now until the convention. By a landslide. Can the GOP nominate someone else anyway? Like I said, I'm not sure how that works. Are delegates from each state obligated to cast votes for the one that got the most votes in their state?
My thinking is this:
No matter who the GOP decides is the candidate, Trump's minions are still going to vote for him or her, not Biden. So why not have a candidate that doesn't have all the baggage. Let's face it. Whether you think Trump is a crook or not, there's just too much material for Biden and the press to bring up that would be nothing but detrimental to getting elected.
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Kicking Trump to the curb
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EVERY Republican with an IQ above 12 wants Trump out and would NEVER vote for him again under any circumstance.Round Six wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:12 pmI'll preface this by saying I am not as wise as many of you about the inner workings of a political party. The behind closed doors dealings. The reach arounds. That sort of thing.
But I can't shag the feeling just about every Republican would rather not have Trump as president. So let's say he ends up winning every primary from now until the convention. By a landslide. Can the GOP nominate someone else anyway? Like I said, I'm not sure how that works. Are delegates from each state obligated to cast votes for the one that got the most votes in their state?
My thinking is this:
No matter who the GOP decides is the candidate, Trump's minions are still going to vote for him or her, not Biden. So why not have a candidate that doesn't have all the baggage. Let's face it. Whether you think Trump is a crook or not, there's just too much material for Biden and the press to bring up that would be nothing but detrimental to getting elected.
Voting for Trump is dumber than playing Russian Roulette with fully loaded chambers.
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Evidently that is a minority of Republicans…Matt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:46 amEVERY Republican with an IQ above 12 wants Trump out and would NEVER vote for him again under any circumstance.Round Six wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:12 pmI'll preface this by saying I am not as wise as many of you about the inner workings of a political party. The behind closed doors dealings. The reach arounds. That sort of thing.
But I can't shag the feeling just about every Republican would rather not have Trump as president. So let's say he ends up winning every primary from now until the convention. By a landslide. Can the GOP nominate someone else anyway? Like I said, I'm not sure how that works. Are delegates from each state obligated to cast votes for the one that got the most votes in their state?
My thinking is this:
No matter who the GOP decides is the candidate, Trump's minions are still going to vote for him or her, not Biden. So why not have a candidate that doesn't have all the baggage. Let's face it. Whether you think Trump is a crook or not, there's just too much material for Biden and the press to bring up that would be nothing but detrimental to getting elected.
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Appreciate the replies. Like I said in the original post, I'm confident everyone that voted for Donald in 2020 is going to vote for whoever the 2024 Republican nominee is.
Like I asked, can the GOP nominate someone who didn't win any of the primaries?
Myself, I just can't shag the feeling if the other GOP presidential hopefuls just go for the jugular right off the bat, Trump can be defeated in the primaries. Come right out, start calling him a no good, crooked slimy, etc. Don't be shy about it. Pull out all the stops. Just seems that's the only chance they got to beat him.
Like I asked, can the GOP nominate someone who didn't win any of the primaries?
Myself, I just can't shag the feeling if the other GOP presidential hopefuls just go for the jugular right off the bat, Trump can be defeated in the primaries. Come right out, start calling him a no good, crooked slimy, etc. Don't be shy about it. Pull out all the stops. Just seems that's the only chance they got to beat him.
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I'm not sure of the answer to this, but even if the answer is yes and this were to happen, say goodbye to the Republican party and hello to decades of Democrat rule.
Bottom line is, if a majority of Republican voters want somebody other than Trump, then they'll nominate somebody other than Trump. You can't just subvert the process because you don't like the outcome. Don't like Trump? Well, for starters, 10+ Republicans entering the race is not a wise idea. Because it is Trump v. the field. Just like in 2016.
Republicans need a candidate who can break Trump's stranglehold on the conservative media. Because right now, Trump is pretty much a slave owner and the conservative pundits are his slaves.
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Exactly.bmw wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 11:52 amI'm not sure of the answer to this, but even if the answer is yes and this were to happen, say goodbye to the Republican party and hello to decades of Democrat rule.
Bottom line is, if a majority of Republican voters want somebody other than Trump, then they'll nominate somebody other than Trump. You can't just subvert the process because you don't like the outcome. Don't like Trump? Well, for starters, 10+ Republicans entering the race is not a wise idea. Because it is Trump v. the field. Just like in 2016.
Republicans need a candidate who can break Trump's stranglehold on the conservative media. Because right now, Trump is pretty much a slave owner and the conservative pundits are his slaves.
And how ironic would it be if Trump won the Republican nomination fairly by getting the most delegates, but was denied the chance to run by technicalities or some decree.
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I think I've said something like this before here, but I completely understood the attraction of a Donald Trump. For years, the American public has gotten screwed harder and harder. We've been sick for years of the Bushes and the Clintons and the Pelosis and the Cheneys. So when Trump came along, I understood why there was such a movement.
I think it's gone a little too far now. Problem is, everyone has to out-extreme the next person. So you're on the fringes of your party or you're a RINO or DINO. I really thought Covid would be thing that pulled us all together. But even THAT became a cluster fuck of the highest level. I don't think I will ever see a 91% approval rating for a president ever again. Or a 49 state electoral win. From now on, it's "I won't tell you why I'm the good candidate, I can only tell you when THEY are bad!". Nobody is talking the real issues anymore. It's all boys being girls and guns and them damn queerosexuals.
My philosophy for years has been by way of Lewis Black. "There has to come a point when Democrats and Republicans...where we see a piece of footage and just agree on what the fuck reality is. You can't show video of a Land Rover running over a cat, and then say the cat was trying to kill itself".
Maybe instead of pointing at the other guy and claiming HIS sin was worse, start by being better person. Start doing right. All this shit is is a childish race to the bottom. But now that we've had Trump, can we get the toothpaste back in the tube? Or is this it for us?
I think it's gone a little too far now. Problem is, everyone has to out-extreme the next person. So you're on the fringes of your party or you're a RINO or DINO. I really thought Covid would be thing that pulled us all together. But even THAT became a cluster fuck of the highest level. I don't think I will ever see a 91% approval rating for a president ever again. Or a 49 state electoral win. From now on, it's "I won't tell you why I'm the good candidate, I can only tell you when THEY are bad!". Nobody is talking the real issues anymore. It's all boys being girls and guns and them damn queerosexuals.
My philosophy for years has been by way of Lewis Black. "There has to come a point when Democrats and Republicans...where we see a piece of footage and just agree on what the fuck reality is. You can't show video of a Land Rover running over a cat, and then say the cat was trying to kill itself".
Maybe instead of pointing at the other guy and claiming HIS sin was worse, start by being better person. Start doing right. All this shit is is a childish race to the bottom. But now that we've had Trump, can we get the toothpaste back in the tube? Or is this it for us?
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Trump in 24. America adores Trump.
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