Some registered account users are experiencing password recognition issues. The issue appears to have been triggered by a PHP update last night. If this is occurring, please try logging in and using the "forgot password?" utility. Bear in mind auto-generated password reset emails may appear in your spam folder. If this does not work, please click the "Contact Us" option near the lower right hand corner of the index page to contact me via email.

Thank you for your patience!
- M.W.

Dave LewAllen - what an idiot.

Debate and discussion of current events and political issues in the State of Michigan. Be forewarned -- this forum is NOT for the intellectually weak or those of you with thin skins. Don't come crying to me if you become the subject of ridicule. **Board Administrator reserves the right to revoke posting privileges based on my sole discretion**
km1125
Posts: 3789
Joined: Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:09 pm

Dave LewAllen - what an idiot.

Unread post by km1125 »

While doing a report on the Oakland County transportation proposal, Dave says "If the proposal passes, it will generate 61 million dollars in the first year".

Does it really Dave?? How does it GENERATE money? NO, IT DOESN'T really at all. It TAKES or COLLECTS 61 million FROM THE RESIDENTS.

How about BEING HONEST Dave?

https://www.wxyz.com/news/oakland-count ... -by-voters
User avatar
Rate This
Posts: 16584
Joined: Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:17 am

Re: Dave LewAllen - what an idiot.

Unread post by Rate This »

km1125 wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:20 pm While doing a report on the Oakland County transportation proposal, Dave says "If the proposal passes, it will generate 61 million dollars in the first year".

Does it really Dave?? How does it GENERATE money? NO, IT DOESN'T really at all. It TAKES or COLLECTS 61 million FROM THE RESIDENTS.

How about BEING HONEST Dave?

https://www.wxyz.com/news/oakland-count ... -by-voters
Saying a proposal will generate revenue is a pretty standard way to put it and it’s used in government documents, meetings and the news media. That’s the way it is. Too bad. Takes is a borderline negative opinion. Collects I could accept. But Dave LewAllen did not invent that verbiage.
Donald Trump… In your guts you know he’s nuts.
User avatar
TC Talks
Posts: 12065
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:41 am

Re: Dave LewAllen - what an idiot.

Unread post by TC Talks »

Money in is revenue regardless of the source.

Your mental disability check is still a source of your revenue.
For Kristian Trumpers are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.
-Romans 16:18

Posting Content © 2024 TC Talks Holdings LP.
Circle Seven
Posts: 414
Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:53 am
Location: Fishing somewhere

Re: Dave LewAllen - what an idiot.

Unread post by Circle Seven »

I don't see anything wrong with how LewAllen phrased it. Money is coming from some source. Saying that source is generating money don't seem odd to me.
User avatar
audiophile
Posts: 9236
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 9:21 pm
Location: Between 88 and 108 MHz.

Re: Dave LewAllen - what an idiot.

Unread post by audiophile »

TC Talks wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:29 pm Money in is revenue regardless of the source.
I was sitting with the PBS guys once and even they knew better to call viewer support "revenue", so you are wrong as usual.
Ask not what your country can do FOR you; ask what they are about to do TO YOU!!
User avatar
Rate This
Posts: 16584
Joined: Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:17 am

Re: Dave LewAllen - what an idiot.

Unread post by Rate This »

audiophile wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 4:15 pm
TC Talks wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:29 pm Money in is revenue regardless of the source.
I was sitting with the PBS guys once and even they knew better to call viewer support "revenue", so you are wrong as usual.
Realistically it is revenue… they are gaining money by soliciting something… then they use that money which is expenses. They have a budget and at the end of the year they have a shortfall or a surplus.
Donald Trump… In your guts you know he’s nuts.
User avatar
TC Talks
Posts: 12065
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:41 am

Re: Dave LewAllen - what an idiot.

Unread post by TC Talks »

audiophile wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 4:15 pm
TC Talks wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:29 pm Money in is revenue regardless of the source.
I was sitting with the PBS guys once and even they knew better to call viewer support "revenue", so you are wrong as usual.
This isn't a pledge drive so head back to the swamp.
For Kristian Trumpers are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.
-Romans 16:18

Posting Content © 2024 TC Talks Holdings LP.
User avatar
craig11152
Posts: 2201
Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:15 am
Location: Ann Arbor

Re: Dave LewAllen - what an idiot.

Unread post by craig11152 »

While I agree it's a commonly used phrase it is a bit of a softsell on taxation.
Rather than ........ "If the proposal passes, it will generate 61 million dollars in the first year".
It might be more intellectually honest to say " "If the proposal passes, the tax will collect 61 million dollars in the first year".

If someone goes mushroom picking they don't really generate mushrooms, they collect them or gather them.
Nobody says "lets go generate some some mushrooms" unless you are a mushroom farmer.
Last edited by craig11152 on Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I no longer directly engage Rate This :lol
km1125
Posts: 3789
Joined: Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:09 pm

Re: Dave LewAllen - what an idiot.

Unread post by km1125 »

I agree craig.

I would suggest that just using the term "generate revenue" is perceived by nearly EVERYONE as a very positive statement, which would mean that any reporter using it without qualifying or clarifying WHERE that "revenue" is coming from is doing a disservice to the audience and imparting slant to a story about taxes.

Maybe we should just file it under "implicit bias" and figure out how to do some training on it.
km1125
Posts: 3789
Joined: Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:09 pm

Re: Dave LewAllen - what an idiot.

Unread post by km1125 »

MWmetalhead wrote: Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:19 pm I think nearly everyone realizes a millage is a tax that generates revenue for the taxing body.
I think you're tremendously overestimating the average voter.

I would love to see a few "Jaywalking" interviews outside some polling places to learn more.
Deleted User 9015

Re: Dave LewAllen - what an idiot.

Unread post by Deleted User 9015 »

I have seen people look for things to be upset about on this forum, but this takes the cake.
Circle Seven
Posts: 414
Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:53 am
Location: Fishing somewhere

Re: Dave LewAllen - what an idiot.

Unread post by Circle Seven »

MWmetalhead wrote: Sat Nov 19, 2022 2:44 pm
I would love to see a few "Jaywalking" interviews outside some polling places to learn more.
Not sure I'd use a segment that is heavily edited for TV purposes as a benchmark here. I'd also like to think the people here are much wiser than the folks in L.A. County.
Exactly. Like Kimmel's Liewitness News, 99 people get the question right before one person don't know it and gets on TV.
Post Reply