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WJR News Analysts
- Colonel Flagg
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WJR News Analysts
It's very telling that nobody here has mentioned the changes at WJR. There is this bizarre new practice where newsroom folks chime in on whatever the conversation may be. To me, it sounds awkward, and disjointed. At times, it almost seems that the "news Analysts" as they are called, run out of things to say.
I find the Kevin Dietz Show to be unlistenable. Just like Guy Gordon, Kevin needs a co-host. Neither can carry a show on their own, and occasional participation from off site "news Analysts" isn't going to fix it. I have actually found myself listening to the trainwreck that's WCXI, more than WJR, as difficult as that may be to believe.
One silver lining in all of this is that Frank Beckmann's predictable stable of daily callers appear to be gone for the most part. I would bet Frank is disappointed that his stock broker pal, Chris Alberta, didn't get the midday gig.
MW, I would enjoy reading your unfiltered opinion on some of these ridiculous changes at WJR. I almost wish I could hear WSPD OTA. They have a much better line-up on Speedy.
I find the Kevin Dietz Show to be unlistenable. Just like Guy Gordon, Kevin needs a co-host. Neither can carry a show on their own, and occasional participation from off site "news Analysts" isn't going to fix it. I have actually found myself listening to the trainwreck that's WCXI, more than WJR, as difficult as that may be to believe.
One silver lining in all of this is that Frank Beckmann's predictable stable of daily callers appear to be gone for the most part. I would bet Frank is disappointed that his stock broker pal, Chris Alberta, didn't get the midday gig.
MW, I would enjoy reading your unfiltered opinion on some of these ridiculous changes at WJR. I almost wish I could hear WSPD OTA. They have a much better line-up on Speedy.
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- MWmetalhead
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Re: WJR News Analysts
I genuinely appreciate your interest in my opinion, but I haven't listened to 760 in months.
Morgan Wallen is a piece of garbage.
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Re: WJR News Analysts
The leaning on a newscaster or producer for comments does work if there is chemistry. For example, when you listen to 97.1, they get everyone into the mix. It keeps the shows vibrant. Maybe the personalities are just more personable. I do agree that on WJR is seems forced. When Paul W. Smith would ask Dick Haefner questions, it was good dialogue. But, now with Marie Osborne, it’s more just like “yup yup yup”.
Kevin Dietz has good topics and guests, except he is a boring AF. It doesn’t help he sounds like he is broadcasting from a warehouse.
Guy Gordon is a phone moderator. Basically takes calls, says yup ok thank you. No push back, no argument, just vanilla.
I’m not sure what you mean by WCXI as being a train wreck. I think it does the job. It’s got some good talkers. Not that I agree with everything that is said, it does make you think what people are thinking.
Kevin Dietz has good topics and guests, except he is a boring AF. It doesn’t help he sounds like he is broadcasting from a warehouse.
Guy Gordon is a phone moderator. Basically takes calls, says yup ok thank you. No push back, no argument, just vanilla.
I’m not sure what you mean by WCXI as being a train wreck. I think it does the job. It’s got some good talkers. Not that I agree with everything that is said, it does make you think what people are thinking.
Re: WJR News Analysts
Regarding WSPD, I get fairly good mileage using WRVF-HD2 (in stereo too) - although they hide the fact that SPeeDy is there in addition to the underserving 92.9FM, 1370 actually had better range on day pattern than 92.9 covers. The afternoon drive "Scott" show on WSPD is usually pretty decent, Top 5 at 5 and has interesting guests if you can wait 10 minutes for the spots to finish, but I've driven 1/3 the way home by then. A good program for market 105, more like a top 50 market show.
- Colonel Flagg
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Re: WJR News Analysts
That's a fairly accurate description. I still believe Chris Renwick is a better host than Kevin, by far. I don't see any of this working, or attracting more desirable demographics.windsorjoe wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:27 pmThe leaning on a newscaster or producer for comments does work if there is chemistry. For example, when you listen to 97.1, they get everyone into the mix. It keeps the shows vibrant. Maybe the personalities are just more personable. I do agree that on WJR is seems forced. When Paul W. Smith would ask Dick Haefner questions, it was good dialogue. But, now with Marie Osborne, it’s more just like “yup yup yup”.
Kevin Dietz has good topics and guests, except he is a boring AF. It doesn’t help he sounds like he is broadcasting from a warehouse.
Guy Gordon is a phone moderator. Basically takes calls, says yup ok thank you. No push back, no argument, just vanilla.
I’m not sure what you mean by WCXI as being a train wreck. I think it does the job. It’s got some good talkers. Not that I agree with everything that is said, it does make you think what people are thinking.
As to WCXI, technically, it's a mess. There are no station liners, other than the TOH I.D, which isn't even done correctly. The audio has too much high end. Commercial breaks are often left unfilled. These are all things that could be fixed in about a day, by any recent Spec's grad.
It's awfully funny to think that Rush's replacement show ended up on WCXI. Technical issues aside, it's good to have another option for talk, aside from the effeminate sounding dudes on WJR.
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- FredLeonard
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Re: WJR News Analysts
WJR holds the world record for the longest time spent circling the bowl. Yes, it's worse than five years ago and five years ago was worse than 10 years ago. The decline started even before J.P. died, although it sped up after that. Each owner after Cap Cities has tried to put its own nail in the coffin... ABC, Disney, Citadel, Cumulus. Of course, much the same is true of all the other AM 1A full service stations. Many had the good sense to flip to something else but 'JR chose to wither. Probably WJR's fall from any claim to being a class operation came when they put Rush on (returning to their hate speech origins with G.A. Richards and Father Coughlin).
Re: WJR News Analysts
What's the outside chance of WJR pulling-off a Detroit version of WSM? Could they stockpile the station with enough talent to run a Top-5 country station in market #14? Full-service Country with news every 30 minutes and simulcast the Grand Ole Opry on the same nights? I know they're flipping/firing-up a 50KW AM in California to be a 60s-70s oldies station, so maybe niche music is where these 50KW blowrtorches can gain some extended life?
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- Colonel Flagg
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Re: WJR News Analysts
It's incredible that WSM still exists at this point in time.
WJR's overdependence on crappy infomercials for revenue is what blows my mind. Seriously, if an infomercial is all you can sell in the 7PM hour, then your problem is with upper management, and the PD. SportsWrap should be put back in the 7PM hour. Many here probably don't remember, but for quite a number of years, SportsWrap ran 7PM to Midnight. An hour of sports talk would be much better than Ezmerelda the lady doctor, "Women Who Lead" (one of my former Fisher Building colleagues referred to it as "the p***y shaver show) reruns of the awful Rich Paul Show, or Greening of the Great Lakes, all of which currently alternate to pollute the 7PM hour on any given weeknight.
WTAM 1100 Cleveland is a far better full service AM than WJR. 700 WLW in Cincinnati is in a downward spiral, but still beats WJR when it comes to compelling programming.
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- MWmetalhead
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Re: WJR News Analysts
For me, the archetypal full service AM station is KMOX St. Louis.
WTMJ in Milwaukee ain't bad, either.
WTMJ in Milwaukee ain't bad, either.
Morgan Wallen is a piece of garbage.
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Re: WJR News Analysts
How about WJR going to a medium-to-soft AC musical format, with a few oldies mixed in, with news on the hour, and getting an FM translator for the local area.WOHO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:35 pmWhat's the outside chance of WJR pulling-off a Detroit version of WSM? Could they stockpile the station with enough talent to run a Top-5 country station in market #14? Full-service Country with news every 30 minutes and simulcast the Grand Ole Opry on the same nights? I know they're flipping/firing-up a 50KW AM in California to be a 60s-70s oldies station, so maybe niche music is where these 50KW blowrtorches can gain some extended life?
The AM would cover the Detroit market quite well, along with surrounding areas.
Yes, I know that the last frequencies for a translator has been taken, but every station could be bought if the price were right.
Q: which station in California is flipping?
- ZenithCKLW
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Re: WJR News Analysts
KYNO in Fresno changed frequencies and increased power. Moved from 1430 to 940.
Re: WJR News Analysts
What your deal with Guy Gordon?Colonel Flagg wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:54 amIt's very telling that nobody here has mentioned the changes at WJR. There is this bizarre new practice where newsroom folks chime in on whatever the conversation may be. To me, it sounds awkward, and disjointed. At times, it almost seems that the "news Analysts" as they are called, run out of things to say.
I find the Kevin Dietz Show to be unlistenable. Just like Guy Gordon, Kevin needs a co-host. Neither can carry a show on their own, and occasional participation from off site "news Analysts" isn't going to fix it. I have actually found myself listening to the trainwreck that's WCXI, more than WJR, as difficult as that may be to believe.
One silver lining in all of this is that Frank Beckmann's predictable stable of daily callers appear to be gone for the most part. I would bet Frank is disappointed that his stock broker pal, Chris Alberta, didn't get the midday gig.
MW, I would enjoy reading your unfiltered opinion on some of these ridiculous changes at WJR. I almost wish I could hear WSPD OTA. They have a much better line-up on Speedy.
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Re: WJR News Analysts
The lack of local newscasts is very disappointing. They are missing a lot of stories.
- Colonel Flagg
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Re: WJR News Analysts
Boring. Frequently ripped on by his callers on-air, and seems easily frazzled. Tries to be neutral on issues and fails. Comes off as pretentious and condescending at times "Have a great day in uh... Redford" Perhaps a co-host would help, but I am not so sure about that at this point. I listen mostly because it's trainwreck radio.Neckbeard wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:11 amWhat your deal with Guy Gordon?Colonel Flagg wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:54 amIt's very telling that nobody here has mentioned the changes at WJR. There is this bizarre new practice where newsroom folks chime in on whatever the conversation may be. To me, it sounds awkward, and disjointed. At times, it almost seems that the "news Analysts" as they are called, run out of things to say.
I find the Kevin Dietz Show to be unlistenable. Just like Guy Gordon, Kevin needs a co-host. Neither can carry a show on their own, and occasional participation from off site "news Analysts" isn't going to fix it. I have actually found myself listening to the trainwreck that's WCXI, more than WJR, as difficult as that may be to believe.
One silver lining in all of this is that Frank Beckmann's predictable stable of daily callers appear to be gone for the most part. I would bet Frank is disappointed that his stock broker pal, Chris Alberta, didn't get the midday gig.
MW, I would enjoy reading your unfiltered opinion on some of these ridiculous changes at WJR. I almost wish I could hear WSPD OTA. They have a much better line-up on Speedy.
"Don't you knock when you enter a room?"