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Glorified babysitters scared to return to work

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Matt wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:54 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:03 am How dare teachers want to stop COVID when they return home! Bad teacher! You supply everything for your classroom while making $42K a year, how greedy! Don't you realize that the superintendents who make $105K a year have it so much worse than you????
The average salary (not counting benefits) is $60,452 for nine months of work. That equates to $80,602 for 12 months. That is NOT underpaid.
When you consider that like a news anchor or some other sort of person facing position they can't just say "I'm taking a break now" it makes the job much more intense than sitting at a desk throwing paper wads at the guy in the next cubicle.
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What I want to know is how bus drivers would get them to stop throwing paper wads? :blink
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audiophile wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:55 pm What I want to know is how bus drivers would get them to stop throwing paper wads? :blink
Gotta wear a helmet and drive fast :blink
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TC Talks wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:47 pm
Matt wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:54 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:03 am How dare teachers want to stop COVID when they return home! Bad teacher! You supply everything for your classroom while making $42K a year, how greedy! Don't you realize that the superintendents who make $105K a year have it so much worse than you????
The average salary (not counting benefits) is $60,452 for nine months of work. That equates to $80,602 for 12 months. That is NOT underpaid.
They usually have masters degrees. How much are you making? You could be replaced by a computer, no?
Why would I disclose how much money I make? My position is not replaceable by automation.
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Matt wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:54 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:03 am How dare teachers want to stop COVID when they return home! Bad teacher! You supply everything for your classroom while making $42K a year, how greedy! Don't you realize that the superintendents who make $105K a year have it so much worse than you????
The average salary (not counting benefits) is $60,452 for nine months of work. That equates to $80,602 for 12 months. That is NOT underpaid.
When you consider that like a news anchor or some other sort of person facing position they can't just say "I'm taking a break now" it makes the job much more intense than sitting at a desk throwing paper wads at the guy in the next cubicle.
I haven't sat in a cubicle since I was in my 20s. I have an office, with a window that opens.
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Matt wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:04 am
TC Talks wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:47 pm
Matt wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:54 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:03 am How dare teachers want to stop COVID when they return home! Bad teacher! You supply everything for your classroom while making $42K a year, how greedy! Don't you realize that the superintendents who make $105K a year have it so much worse than you????
The average salary (not counting benefits) is $60,452 for nine months of work. That equates to $80,602 for 12 months. That is NOT underpaid.
They usually have masters degrees. How much are you making? You could be replaced by a computer, no?
Why would I disclose how much money I make? My position is not replaceable by automation.
Rate This wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:25 pm
Matt wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:54 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:03 am How dare teachers want to stop COVID when they return home! Bad teacher! You supply everything for your classroom while making $42K a year, how greedy! Don't you realize that the superintendents who make $105K a year have it so much worse than you????
The average salary (not counting benefits) is $60,452 for nine months of work. That equates to $80,602 for 12 months. That is NOT underpaid.
When you consider that like a news anchor or some other sort of person facing position they can't just say "I'm taking a break now" it makes the job much more intense than sitting at a desk throwing paper wads at the guy in the next cubicle.
I haven't sat in a cubicle since I was in my 20s. I have an office, with a window that opens.
Or the guy in an office throwing paper Wads out his window at passers by.
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My cousin makes $42K a year as a substitute music teacher even with a full master's degree.
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MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:49 pm My cousin makes $42K a year as a substitute music teacher even with a full master's degree.
Your cousin is either over educated or under employed.

Perhaps a degree in basket weaving would have yielded a better result?
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Matt wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:54 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:03 am How dare teachers want to stop COVID when they return home! Bad teacher! You supply everything for your classroom while making $42K a year, how greedy! Don't you realize that the superintendents who make $105K a year have it so much worse than you????
The average salary (not counting benefits) is $60,452 for nine months of work. That equates to $80,602 for 12 months. That is NOT underpaid.
Not only that, but if you look at the average classroom of ~25 students, most districts in the state are getting near $10k per student. That gives about $250,000 per classroom every single year. If the teachers are really only getting $60-$80K, where is the rest of that money going to?? It does not cost anywhere NEAR that amount to maintain a single classroom on a proportional share of the common facilities.

Where is the rest of the money going??
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TC Talks wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:47 pm
Matt wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:54 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:03 am How dare teachers want to stop COVID when they return home! Bad teacher! You supply everything for your classroom while making $42K a year, how greedy! Don't you realize that the superintendents who make $105K a year have it so much worse than you????
The average salary (not counting benefits) is $60,452 for nine months of work. That equates to $80,602 for 12 months. That is NOT underpaid.
They usually have masters degrees. How much are you making? You could be replaced by a computer, no?


If the masters degree doesn't make them significantly better at doing their job, why should anyone be paying for it? If their students were coming out a grade ahead of everyone else, that might make sense, but I don't think you'll see that's the case anywhere.
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"I have a Master's degree in Music."

Great, go start a band and make millions!

"Nah, I want to teach kids to play 'Baby Elephant Walk' on a part time basis."

How much do you expect to make?

"I expect many thousands of dollars, full benefits, and my summers off."

You gotta be shitting me.

"Nope, totally serious."

How can you say that with a straight face?
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km1125 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:53 pm
Matt wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:54 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:03 am How dare teachers want to stop COVID when they return home! Bad teacher! You supply everything for your classroom while making $42K a year, how greedy! Don't you realize that the superintendents who make $105K a year have it so much worse than you????
The average salary (not counting benefits) is $60,452 for nine months of work. That equates to $80,602 for 12 months. That is NOT underpaid.
Not only that, but if you look at the average classroom of ~25 students, most districts in the state are getting near $10k per student. That gives about $250,000 per classroom every single year. If the teachers are really only getting $60-$80K, where is the rest of that money going to?? It does not cost anywhere NEAR that amount to maintain a single classroom on a proportional share of the common facilities.

Where is the rest of the money going??
Heating, cooling, cleaning and Maintanance on a building that big is expensive. This isn’t your shed that’s collapsing in the backyard and you don’t have to worry about it. Not to mention supplies, technology, furniture, food for the kiddos, transportation, grounds Maintanance, play equipment for recess, gym equipment, musical instruments, books for the library and all the support staff needed to make it all go round plus folks to oversee all the staff and teachers all the way up to the administration.

My advice:
Go visit a school sometime and take stock of all the stuff that’s there. It all cost part of that $250,000 per classroom (although I think it’s more like $8000 a student).
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None of you little shits could even read and write if it wasn’t for teachers.
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Wanna bet?
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km1125 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:55 pm
TC Talks wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:47 pm
Matt wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:54 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:03 am How dare teachers want to stop COVID when they return home! Bad teacher! You supply everything for your classroom while making $42K a year, how greedy! Don't you realize that the superintendents who make $105K a year have it so much worse than you????
The average salary (not counting benefits) is $60,452 for nine months of work. That equates to $80,602 for 12 months. That is NOT underpaid.
They usually have masters degrees. How much are you making? You could be replaced by a computer, no?


If the masters degree doesn't make them significantly better at doing their job, why should anyone be paying for it? If their students were coming out a grade ahead of everyone else, that might make sense, but I don't think you'll see that's the case anywhere.
There are certainly some shortsided MBA's. I think when you look at the certifications, annual training, and the hours spent outside the classroom on the job, you should have a better appreciation that it's more than a banker or working the counter at the local Shell station.
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First day of school in Georgia. I predict problems within 14 days...

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