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Medical personnel aren’t heroes, they aren’t doing anything

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Medical personnel aren’t heroes, they aren’t doing anything

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All of you who think medical personnel are superheroes need to get your head examined.

They’re not “fighting the virus.” They’re not “stopping the virus.” They AREN’T DOING ANYTHING!

Here’s what’s going on right now.

If someone has COVID-19 symptoms and they go to the hospital, they simply stay there. The medical staff may get them water, feed them, ask them if they’re comfortable, but there’s no cure, and no treatment.

The patient either recovers or dies and the medical staff had nothing to do with either outcome.

STOP PUTTING PEOPLE ON PEDESTALS THAT DO NOTHING!!!
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Let me remind you:

There is no cure.

There is no treatment.

You either die or get better regardless of medical personnel. They freely admit it. It’s time the rest of us do too.
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audiophile wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:47 am
lovinlife101 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:40 am Let me remind you:

There is no cure.

There is no treatment.

You either die or get better regardless of medical personnel. They freely admit it. It’s time the rest of us do too.
I partially agree. There are antibiotics that help with secondary infection, but being in the hospital itself probably isn't increasing your odds too much, in fact that they recycle medical supplies mean could be spreading things between patients. No thanks!

The medical workers are risking things anytime they are with an infectious patient, I think that deserves a lot respect, but it's what they signed up for too. I pray for them daily!

PS My cousin works for GE inspecting nuclear reactors. I think he is nuts, but it's what he signed up for...
They’re not saving anyone’s life that has COVID-19. Either the patient lives or dies regardless of medical care.

Nearly everyone in NYC put on a ventilator died. So when General Motors tries to tell you “we’re saving lives because we’re making ventilators!” they’re lying.
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Turkeytop wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:26 pm
lovinlife101 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:40 am Let me remind you:

There is no cure.

There is no treatment.

You either die or get better regardless of medical personnel. They freely admit it. It’s time the rest of us do too.

So, when you get it, stay away from the hospital. Don't waste their time.
BINGO!

No reason to infect anyone else, especially people that can’t and won’t help you.
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Rate This wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:21 pm
lovinlife101 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:28 pm
Turkeytop wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:26 pm
lovinlife101 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:40 am Let me remind you:

There is no cure.

There is no treatment.

You either die or get better regardless of medical personnel. They freely admit it. It’s time the rest of us do too.

So, when you get it, stay away from the hospital. Don't waste their time.
BINGO!

No reason to infect anyone else, especially people that can’t and won’t help you.
This was a specific request made of you.
Why would anyone want to run the risk of infecting medical personnel, especially since they can’t help anyway? What did they ever do to you?
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Matt wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:17 pm Medical professionals are still better than the glorified babysitters that have summers off.
Tough to argue with that one.
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Turkeytop wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:09 pm Being hooked up to a ventilator by medical personnel has helped a lot of people make it through.
100% false.

88% of NYC COVID-19 patients on ventilators died. No evidence that the ones who survived did so because of the ventilators.

Please try again.
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km1125 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:19 pm
lovinlife101 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:54 am They’re not saving anyone’s life that has COVID-19. Either the patient lives or dies regardless of medical care.

Nearly everyone in NYC put on a ventilator died. So when General Motors tries to tell you “we’re saving lives because we’re making ventilators!” they’re lying.
Most folks can fight this off on their own.
Precisely.

So we agree.
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Turkeytop wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:17 pm
lovinlife101 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:07 pm
Turkeytop wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:09 pm Being hooked up to a ventilator by medical personnel has helped a lot of people make it through.
100% false.

88% of NYC COVID-19 patients on ventilators died. No evidence that the ones who survived did so because of the ventilators.

Please try again.
88%.

The remaining 12% would be grateful to the medical profession for saving their lives.
Zero proof of ventilators or medical staff saving anyone. However, we do know nearly everyone on a ventilator died.
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audiophile wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:12 pm Perhaps, but it hasn't been determined if the remaining 12% were saved by the ventilator or not.
Bingo!
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Howard Jones wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:21 pm Anyone that goes to work each day knowing they are exposing themselves to Covid to provide care, whatever that care may be, is absolutely a hero in my book. Especially each and every respiratory therapist that has to perform an intubation.

The people doing this work are doing nothing more than following treatment protocols and orders that others have instructed them to do. They are fully aware that what they are doing may only serve as comfort care.

Until you are willing to invest the time they have in getting educated in and then working in providing health care during a pandemic that has killed 52,000 people in the USA in just weeks, I suggest a giant helping of shut the f*** up.

The pedestal is well earned.
So I should praise people who are exposing themselves needlessly to people that can’t even help in order to render care that’s not effective.

Got it, Skippy!
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Rate This wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:00 pm
lovinlife101 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:53 pm
Howard Jones wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:21 pm Anyone that goes to work each day knowing they are exposing themselves to Covid to provide care, whatever that care may be, is absolutely a hero in my book. Especially each and every respiratory therapist that has to perform an intubation.

The people doing this work are doing nothing more than following treatment protocols and orders that others have instructed them to do. They are fully aware that what they are doing may only serve as comfort care.

Until you are willing to invest the time they have in getting educated in and then working in providing health care during a pandemic that has killed 52,000 people in the USA in just weeks, I suggest a giant helping of shut the f*** up.

The pedestal is well earned.
So I should praise people who are exposing themselves needlessly to people that can’t even help in order to render care that’s not effective.

Got it, Skippy!
But they are helping them and the care they are providing can at least ease the symptoms... you are one cold hearted lunatic...
So we’ve got people following orders to ease the process of people dying while exposing themselves to the risk of death themselves. These aren’t heroes. These are lunatics. That’s the textbook definition of asinine.
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Turkeytop wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:02 pm The patient gets put on a ventilator as a very last resort, after oxygen alone has failed. I can't believe anyone is arguing that we ought to just leave the patient to die without trying the ventilator.
Ask anyone in the medical community, once someone gets out on a ventilator, most of the time they don’t cone off it until they’re dead.
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Turkeytop wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:11 pm LL has a long enemies list. It include Doctors, Nurses, Orderlies, Lab technicians, Cops, Union Members, Democrats, Women and Straight males.
A person liked by everyone stands for nothing.
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Howard Jones wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:16 pm
Turkeytop wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:02 pm The patient gets put on a ventilator as a very last resort, after oxygen alone has failed. I can't believe anyone is arguing that we ought to just leave the patient to die without trying the ventilator.
Amen! Because everyone realizes that the mortality rate is sky high once a vent is required, the docs are working their tails off to provide more and more therapies that can make it so those vents are truly a last resort and improve the outcomes for many. These therapies are the absolute key to getting to a point where we can start relaxing a lot of the fear and need for ICU beds.
Yet GM brags, “We’re saving lives by making ventilators!”

They should be saying, “We’re lowering people into graves slightly slower!”
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