“Anti-abortion rights advocates”

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A woman’s body still her private property.

Abortion - legal or not - will always be with us.

Keep banging your heads to no avail.

Your position here is laughable given your support of the Democrat party - the party that has no respect for others' private property - especially if they have a lot of it. They take others' property through force via taxes and give it to others. But you're perfectly ok with that.

Conversely the people who are normally supportive of private property aren’t here... are you ok with that? If so than your attempt to throw that at SG would be sort of hypocritical considering both sides take the others usual broad philosophical view on this issue... maybe the positions of the right and left are more about convenience and what gets their goals accomplished than actual principles and convictions...

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Except I don't buy into the idea that the baby inside is a woman's private property. Her body may be, but the baby isn't.

In the act of getting pregnant, a woman allows access to her "private property" by a foreign piece of "private property," and ultimately, the genetic material that makes up the fetus within the woman's body has 50% of its origin from somebody else. As such, if this is the analogy we're going to use, the father has 50% ownership rights of that child right from the moment of conception. But that's not how it works in our legal system, is it?

Just to illustrate how absurd SG's position here is - by his logic, if you bring an expensive piece of property into my house (let's say an $800 laptop) and leave it here, it immediately becomes "my" property, by virtue of residing inside of my house, and I can do whatever I want with it.

And just for fun, let's take this analogy to its absurd conclusion. Mommy and daddy own a house. Mommy and daddy's 12-year child lives in that house. As such, mommy and daddy's 12-year old child is their "private property" and they can do whatever they want with it, including kill it.

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Legal. Not legal. Abortion will always be a female’s choice. Not a thing you can do to change that “oh so hard to accept” fact.
Whine, Berate. Get your gun. Go to law school. Or church. Still - zilch - is all you can do to stop abortion. Desperate females will always accomplish their chosen goal - to abort.

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You will never stop abortion.
Legal, or illegal it will always be with us.
Desperate/determined females will always accomplish it - one way or another - if that is what they have chosen to do.

It’s a hard truth which some have made a choice to deny. However denial is simply a coping mechanism. It will never erase the hard truth that abortion is an option for each pregnant female which she alone will reject or accept - as an option for her.

And LL101, audiophile, fill in perhaps your name, nor courts, nor churches - can ever take away each pregnant female’s choice.

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Conservatives want the government out of every part of THEIR lives, but they have no problem with the government trying to regulate everyone else's lives. Fucking losers.

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You see - on order for a baby to be born a pregnant female must carry nine months and deliver. A process which can only take place in a female’s body. And that is the utterly unique circumstance which sets apart pregnancy termination via abortion. Legal, or not.

In LL101’s fantasy - every pregnant female would be restricted from freedom over those nine months. They would be sequestered and watched carefully day and night until the baby is born. That is the only way to stop all abortion. And because this is America you might have difficulty incarcerating for pregnancy monitoring.

[audiophile]

Well stated.

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Typical.

Ignore reality.

So you want to stop abortion? Tell us please how you will go about doing that?

Incarcerate and monitor all pregnant women until after delivery?

Create special pregnancy lock down/video monitoring facilities all across the US where pregnant females must reside and deliver?

Wealthy women will still fly to other countries to obtain their abortions.

And poor women will still accomplish their abortion choice via coat hangers, uterine cramping potions, trading sex for punches to their bellies, etc. - all DIY or with assistance from those in the hidden, back alley, abortion cottage industry. AND - most of THESE cases will result in fatal infections (dirty hands/equipment) or fatal blood loss (uterus/vagina open wounds) so two deaths result (fetus/baby, pregnant female).

I wonder if that female is someone you know? Or love? Buh-bye.

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So called pro-life men and women refuse to face reality. They never lay out their plan to stop abortions because they know abortion will always be with us. Legalized, or not.

They bully, force their choice on others, holler “prayers” outside abortion clinics, create films, literature, protests, knowingly or unknowingly encourage deranged individuals to murder abortion doctors. Then never reveal that they are secretly delighted by the murder. And only the deranged gunman faces trial.

Also - many favor capital punishment in our always imperfect justice system, and generally are often against all contraception, and not infrequently even sex education in school.

And these domineering, sanctimonious pro life persons often have no plan to adopt unwanted babies themselves, or house immigrant/refugee children in their homes, or squawk about Trump separating families - which traumatizes children. Nor do they witness children crying in cages at the hands of Trump - and feel the same zeal to go to and stand outside those border facilities and demonstrate their pro life stance.

They are not pro life.

They are simply anti-abortion. Anti choice.

AND - they also are not angry at their God when - for seemingly no reason - a pregnant woman who wants to carry and deliver is suddenly blindsided by the heartbreak of spontaneous abortion which we eupvhamise as - a “miscarriage”. In the US alone there are countless first month spontaneous aborts each year. Ask any OB/GYN. They will tell you it’s a common experience. Most of those females didn’t even know they were pregnant. But the chemical marker for pregnancy was dissipating in their blood when they had blood work done.

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Still awaiting your comprehensive plan to stop abortion, Skippy PB.

But all you spew, LL101 is your nonsensical parallels. WHY do they not make sense?

Because you insist on ignoring the “human incubator/delivery device” that is necessary to create and painfully suffer a new human into the world.

Quit ignoring. Because it reveals you as IGNORANT!

Not to mention that in America - abortion - unlike pedophilia, murder, slavery - is not a crime. But you go right ahead and ignore. It’s what you do.

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There you go, again.

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That would be YOU, LL101. And your like-minded, ignorant, control freak friends.

Kind of like the anti-LGBT+ conversion therapy proponents. Just good-hearted guides - trying to save mistaken and forsaken souls.
They could chose to honor those not like them. But they’d rather intervene, butt in, and try to remake others into their own “correct” image.

Ignore away, Skippy PB. And lay out your realistic stop abortion plan for all American females. And don't forget the details.

[Bryce]

Can't use logic to debate with a idiot.

Can fix a lot of things, but ya can't fix stupid.

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Well copied, Bryce. You’re a wonderful secretary.

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Still await your grand, detailed plan to stop abortions, LL101.

Legal, or illegal - determined/desperate females will always accomplish abortion if that is what they have chosen.

Authoritarian, pious/self-righteous, often self-hating or guilt-ridden control freaks - do not stop at making their own choice to carry and deliver, or abort. Or form their own free will opinion on the topic. Instead they also want to take control of every pregnant female’s free will choice to carry and deliver or abort, and control her body.

Let them act. Let them butt into other’s private lives. Let them threaten. Let them holler prayers outside clinics. Let them lobby. Let them delight at the murders of abortion doctors. Let them NOT ACTIVELY PROTEST capital punishment, wars, family separations, kids in cages, lack of healthcare for every American, frequent mass shootings in America, police traffic stop murders of unarmed black drivers, etc.

Understand - they are SELECTIVELY pro life. Usually when it comes to protecting life they are actively, exclusively only anti abortion. Usually life terminated outside the womb is of little interest to them. Beyond offering their opinion.