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Lake Huron FM Bandscans

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Lake Huron FM Bandscans

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I will post some of the bandscans from the shores of Lake Huron and Georgian Bay in this space. While the scans are finished, the content has not yet been added to my website, where they are accompanied by maps, site photos, advice, and other details, which should be online by the end of this year. This is a place to share these scans in the meantime before they officially go online.
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Penetanguishene, Ont. Bandscans

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Here is the bandscan from Awenda Provincial Park near Penetanguishene, Ont. (Barrie and Orillia area). While there were two scans - one in the evening and another the following morning and afternoon - I am posting the combined scan of the two.

In addition, I'm including some recordings from this radio site below. I rarely make a recording of the full scan due to my recorder throwing out minor interference to the band, but I made a full recording of the initial scan from 87.7 to 107.9 the first day (see a rough index at the bottom of this post), plus individual notable recordings the following day from the higher-elevation site.


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Over the years, I noticed that 96.5 in Penetanguishene got out really well over Lake Huron (in the absence of anything aside from Akron) and nearby Barrie signals were constant more than 250 miles across the open water up to Mackinac, leading me to wonder if the spot would be favourable toward the opposite shores as well. So I went to Awenda Provincial Park, home to a 350-foot bluff beside the water and compared signals at water level and atop the bluff. Furthermore, as my years-long project was coming to a close, I made sure to record the first session (of two) just for some memories - something I never do. Here are the results.

The 92-minute initial session at the beach was conducted in the evening hours and was more rushed than I'd usually prefer. It served as a good exploratory mission of the band - as initial scans often are - for the following morning's session atop the bluff where an abandoned trail just happened to connect only my campsite to an abandoned part of the park's Bluff Trail, where I tuned the band deep in the forest a few hundred feet above the water.

The scan below is a combined version of the 1st and 2nd session, so not all stations shown will be included in the audio file. An index of this file is at the end of this post to assist in navigating the large file, which starts at 88.1 and ends at 107.9. You can hear as I walk around looking for nulls in locals and semi-locals or waiting for IDs and now and then comparing parallel signals. The voice recorder interferes on some frequencies, so you'll hear that for sure as well - one reason I don't always record short of notable signals. Some additional individual files are provided below.

1. The 92-minute first session

2. 90.5 WPHN (203 mi.)

3. 92.5 WFDX (212 mi.)

4. 96.3 WLXT (239 mi.)

5. 99.7 WUGN (242 mi.)

6. 100.1 CHFN (49 mi.) buzzer

7. 101.3 CKUN (8 mi.) local

8. 102.7 CJMV (268 mi.)


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AWENDA PROV. PARK (PENETANGUISHENE), ONTARIO BANDSCAN: COMBINED

August 8, 2019 1820-2110 (1st Beach) & 2140-2215 (Wolf Campground)
Conditions: 21°C to 19°C, clear west, clouds north, winds W 25mph
Location: 44°51'08.0"N 80°00'37.1"W (primary site at 1st Beach)
on beach at lake level with 350 ft. bluff behind to S and SW
Location: 44°50'27.7"N 80°01'11.1"W (additional at site 225)
790 feet (210 ft. above lake level with trail behind site)

August 9, 2019 0935-1225 / 21°C (25°C inland / 21° water), winds NW 25mph
Location: 44°50'33.0"N 80°01'09.5"W (atop bluff edge behind site 225)
810 feet (230 ft. above lake level in Wolf Campground)

141 stations / Average distance: 126 mi.

* station received on seek

87.75 CJOH-6 ON Deseronto / CTV Ottawa / 10kw / faint (153 mi.)
*88.1 CFRH ON Penetanguishene / French Variety / 40kw / 45dBµ, st. (29 mi.)
88.3 WCOU NY Attica / Family Life Network / 11kw / 3dBµ, mono (166 mi.)
88.5 CKDX ON Newmarket / Jewel 88.5 / 30kw / RDS / 15dBµ, mono (62 mi.)
88.5 WIAB MI Mackinaw City / Classical IPR //88.7 / 50kw / 5dBµ, m. (249 mi.)
88.7 CKAR ON Huntsville / The Bay / 5.7kw / 20dBµ, stereo (62 mi.)
88.7 WIAA MI Interlochen / Classical IPR //88.5 / 100kw / 2dBµ, m. null (283 mi.)
*88.9 CBPO ON Parry Sound / Weatheradio Canada / 20w / 25dBµ, mono (38 mi.)
*89.1 CISO ON Orillia / Max FM / 2.5kw / RDS / 35dBµ, stereo (30 mi.)
89.3 -
89.5 CIUT ON Toronto / Sound of Your City / 15kw / 5dBµ, mono (88 mi.)
89.5 WCMU MI Mt. Pleasant / CMU Public R. / 100kw / 3dBµ, mono (251 mi.)
*89.7 CBCM ON Penetanguishene / CBC R. 1 Tor. / RDS / 2.8kw / 45dBµ, m. only (5 mi.)
*89.9 CBLR ON Parry Sound / CBC R. 1 Toronto / 180w / 25dBµ, mono only (38 mi.)
89.9 CJKX-1 ON Sunderland / KX96 / 5kw / 5dBµ, mono (60 mi.)
*90.1 CBBS ON Sudbury / CBC Music Sudbury / 50kw / 15dBµ, mono (123 mi.)
90.3 CBEG ON Sarnia / CBC R. 1 Windsor / 1.8kw / 5dBµ, mono, weak (177 mi.)
90.3 WBLV MI Twin Lake / Blue Lake Public R. / 100kw / 5dBµ, mono, weak (311 mi.)
*90.5 WPHN MI Gaylord / The Promise FM / 100kw / 25dBµ, stereo (203 mi.)
*90.7 CBL-3 ON Orillia / CBC Music Toronto / 5.5kw / 25dBµ, stereo (31 mi.)
*90.9 CBBX ON Sudbury / Ici Musique Sudbury / 50kw / 15dBµ, mono (123 mi.)
90.9 CIYN-2 ON Port Elgin / myFM / 3.1kw / 15dBµ, mono (71 mi.)
90.9 WHRM WI Wausau / WPR News & Classical / 81kw / 5dBµ, m., brief ID (473 mi.)
91.1 CJRT ON Toronto / Jazz.FM91 / 40kw / 5dBµ, mono (89 mi.)
*91.3 CHRZ ON Parry Island / Anishinabek N. Rez 91 / 60w / 20dBµ, st. (33 mi.)
*91.5 CBCO ON Orillia / CBC R. 1 Toronto / 13.52kw / RDS / 25dBµ, mono only (31 mi.)
*91.7 CICS ON Sudbury / Pure Country 91.7 / 50kw / 20dBµ, stereo (123 mi.)
91.7 CIXL ON Welland / Giant FM / 50kw / 7dBµ, mono (134 mi.)
91.7 WCML MI Alpena / CMU Public R. / 92kw / 5dBµ, mono (203 mi.)
91.9 CKLY ON Lindsay / Bob FM / 11.4kw / 5dBµ, mono (76 mi.)
91.9 WSMO MI Mt. Forest / Smile FM / 6kw / brief fade up (216 mi.)
92.1 CIMA ON Alliston / myFM / 3.75kw / 7dBµ, mono (49 mi.)
*92.3 CJOS ON Owen Sound / The Dock / 9.4kw / RDS / 35dBµ, stereo (51 mi.)
92.5 WFDX MI Atlanta / The Fox FM / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono (212 mi.)
*92.7 CJRQ ON Sudbury / 92-7 Rock / 100kw / 25dBµ, stereo (124 mi.)
92.7 CJBX ON London / Pure Country 93 / 50kw / 5dBµ, mono (141 mi.)
92.9 WJZQ MI Cadillac / Z93 / 100kw / 5dBµ, mono (255 mi.)
*93.1 CHAY ON Barrie / Fresh Radio 93.1 / 100kw / RDS / 45dBµ, st. (37 mi.)
93.3 WKQZ MI Midland / Z-93 / 39kw / 5dBµ, mono (213 mi.)
93.3 CKSG ON Cobourg / myFM / 15.5kw / faint (107 mi.)
*93.5 CIGM ON Sudbury / Hot 93.5 / 100kw / 25dBµ, stereo (119 mi.)
*93.7 CKYC ON Owen Sound / Country 93 / 22kw / RDS / 35dBµ, stereo (51 mi.)
93.9 WAVC MI Mio / Strong Tower R. / 50kw / 5dBµ, mono (213 mi.)
93.9 CIDR ON Windsor / The River / 100kw / 5dBµ, mono, weak (237 mi.)
*94.1 CKNR ON Elliot Lake / The Moose / 90kw / 25dBµ, stereo (121 mi.)
94.1 CBL ON Toronto / CBC Music Toronto / 38kw / 10dBµ, m. in null (89 mi.)
*94.3 CBLU ON Huntsville / CBC R. 1 Toronto / 70kw / 35dBµ, m. only (54 mi.)
94.5 CIBU ON Wingham / Cl. Rock 94-5 / 75kw / RDS / 15dBµ, mono (78 mi.)
94.5 WCEN MI Hemlock / The Moose / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono (239 mi.)
94.7 CHKX ON Hamilton / KX 94.7 / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono, up & down (114 mi.)
94.9 WKJZ MI Hillman / Hits FM / 50kw / 15dBµ, mono (191 mi.)
94.9 CBON-7 ON Espanola / Ici Première Sudbury / 520w / 5dBµ, m. null (134 mi.)
94.9 CKGE ON Oshawa / The Rock / 50kw / weak in + out (86 mi.)
*95.1 CKCB ON Collingwood / The Peak / 3.5kw / RDS / 25dBµ, stereo (29 mi.)
95.1 CBON-17 ON North Bay / Ici Première Sud. / 100kw / 15dBµ, m. null (105 mi.)
95.3 WWSS MI Tuscarora Twp. / The Bear / 17kw / 7dBµ, mono (226 mi.)
95.3 CING ON Hamilton / Fresh Radio 95.3 / 100kw / weak in car (114 mi.)
95.5 CJTK ON Sudbury / KFM / 8.1kw / 20dBµ, mono (125 mi.)
*95.7 CFJB ON Barrie / Rock 95 / 100kw / RDS / 45dBµ, stereo (37 mi.)
95.9 CFPL ON London / FM96 / 300kw / 10dBµ, mono (145 mi.)
*96.1 CBCN ON North Bay / CBC R. 1 Sudbury / 100kw / 15dBµ, mono (105 mi.)
96.1 WHNN MI Bay City / My 96.1 / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono in null (202 mi.)
96.3 WLXT MI Petoskey / Lite 96.3 / 100kw / 15dBµ, mono (239 mi.)
*96.5 CJBC-3 ON Penetanguishene / Ici Première Tor. / 15.3kw / 45dBµ, m. only (5 mi.)
96.7 WRGZ MI Rogers City / Country / 42kw / 10dBµ, mono (187 mi.)
96.7 CHYM ON Kitchener / Adult Contemp. / 80kw / 5dBµ, mono (104 mi.)
96.9 WWCM MI Standish / CMU Public R. / 3kw / 5dBµ, mono (204 mi.)
*97.1 CBL-4 ON Owen Sound / CBC Music Toronto / 20.22kw / RDS / 40dBµ, st. (44 mi.)
97.3 CHBM ON Toronto / Boom 97.3 / 28.9kw / 10dBµ, mono (89 mi.)
*97.5 CBCE ON Little Current / CBC R. 1 Sudbury / 21kw / 15dBµ, mono (122 mi.)
97.5 WFRY NY Watertown / Froggy 97 / 97kw / in null (215 mi.)
*97.7 CHGB ON Wasaga Beach / Max FM / 700w / RDS / 25dBµ, stereo (25 mi.)
*97.9 CFPS ON Port Elgin / The Beach / 8.95kw / 10dBµ, mono (83 mi.)
*98.1 CBON ON Sudbury / Ici Première Sudbury / 50kw / 15dBµ, mono (123 mi.)
98.1 CHFI ON Toronto / Adult Contemp. / 44kw / 10dBµ, mono in null (89 mi.)
98.3 -
98.5 WUPS MI Harrison / UPS 98.5 / 100kw / 5dBµ, mono (235 mi.)
98.5 WQLH WI Green Bay / Star 98 / 100kw / weak in car (398 mi.)
*98.7 CBCB ON Owen Sound / CBC R. 1 Toronto / 100kw / RDS / 45dBµ, mono (44 mi.)
98.9 CHYC ON Sudbury / Le Loup / 3.82kw / 10dBµ, mono (125 mi.)
98.9 CHCD ON Simcoe / myFM / 50kw / 7dBµ, mono (145 mi.)
98.9 WKLZ MI Petoskey / KLT The Rock Sta. / 100kw / 5dBµ, mono (244 mi.)
98.9 CJLF-3 ON Huntsville / Life 100.3 //100.3 / 750w / 5dBµ, mono (49 mi.)
99.1 CBLA ON Toronto / CBC R. 1 Toronto / 98kw / 10dBµ, mono (88 mi.)
*99.3 CJGB ON Meaford / Jewel 99 / 2.875kw / RDS / 25dBµ, stereo (30 mi.)
*99.5 CFBG ON Bracebridge / Moose FM / 12kw / RDS / 30dBµ, stereo (40 mi.)
99.7 WUGN MI Midland / Family Life R. / 100kw / 15dBµ, mono (242 mi.)
*99.9 CBCS ON Sudbury / CBC R. 1 Sudbury / 50kw / 15dBµ, mono (123 mi.)
99.9 WHAK MI Rogers City / The Wave / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (194 mi.)
*100.1 CHFN ON Neyaashiinigming / Nawash First N. / 72w / 15dBµ, m. buzzing (49 mi.)
*100.3 CJLF ON Barrie / Life 100.3 / 32.8kw / RDS / 40dBµ, stereo (28 mi.)
100.5 CHUR ON North Bay / KiSS 100.5 / 100kw / 20dBµ, mono (105 mi.)
*100.7 CFRM ON Little Current / Hits 100 / 27.5kw / 15dBµ, mono (121 mi.)
100.7 WWTH MI Oscoda / Thunder 100.7 / 20.5kw / 5dBµ, mono in null (166 mi.)
100.7 CHIN ON Toronto / International R. / 8.5kw / good in car (89 mi.)
100.9 CBLA-3 ON Wingham / CBC R. 1 Toronto / 30kw / weak in car (81 mi.)
*101.1 CIQB ON Barrie / Big 101.1 / 7.5kw / 30dBµ, stereo (37 mi.)
*101.3 CKUN ON Christian Is. / Beausoleil Nish R. / 900w / 70dBµ, st. (8 mi.)
101.5 WMJZ MI Gaylord / Eagle 101.5 / 50kw / 10dBµ, m. in 101.3 null (215 mi.)
101.5 CKWF ON Peterborough / The Wolf / 15.2kw / 5dBµ, mono + 101.3 (92 mi.)
101.7 CKNX ON Wingham / The One / 100kw / RDS / 15dBµ, mono (78 mi.)
101.7 CBON-5 ON Elliot Lake / Ici Première Sud. / 2.6kw / 5dBµ, m. in null (165 mi.)
*101.9 CKFX ON North Bay / 101-9 Rock / 100kw / 15dBµ, mono (105 mi.)
102.1 WLEW MI Bad Axe / Cruise 102.1 / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (167 mi.)
102.1 CFNY ON Brampton / The Edge / 35.4kw / 10dBµ, mono (89 mi.)
*102.3 CJMU ON Gravenhurst / Country 102 / 23kw / RDS / 25dBµ, stereo (39 mi.)
102.5 CBLA-4 ON Shelburne / CBC R. 1 Toronto / 6kw / 15dBµ, mono (57 mi.)
102.5 WTSS NY Buffalo / Star 102.5 / 110kw / 10dBµ, mono (166 mi.)
102.7 CJMV QC Val d'Or / Énergie Val-d'Or / 96kw / 5dBµ, mono (268 mi.)
102.7 W274BN MI Alpena / Strong Tower R. / 250w / brief in CJMV null (170 mi.)
*102.9 CFMO ON Collingwood / Classical 102.9 / 23kw / RDS / 40dBµ, st. (29 mi.)
*103.1 CHAW ON Manitoulin Is. / Country 103.1 / 27.5kw / 20dBµ, mono (121 mi.)
*103.3 CKLP ON Parry Sound / Moose FM / 46.6kw / RDS / 55dBµ, stereo (38 mi.)
*103.5 CIDC ON Orangeville / Z103-5 / 30.7kw / 15dBµ, mono (64 mi.)
103.7 WCZE MI Harbor Beach / Positive Country / 43kw / 7dBµ, mono (167 mi.)
*103.9 CHNO ON Sudbury / Rewind 103.9 / 100kw / RDS / 30dBµ, stereo (119 mi.)
*104.1 CICZ ON Midland / The Dock / 20kw / RDS / 45dBµ, stereo (28 mi.)
104.3 WOMC MI Detroit / Classic Hits / 190kw / 5dBµ, mono (225 mi.)
104.5 CHUM ON Toronto / Hot AC / 40kw / 5dBµ, mono (89 mi.)
104.7 WKJC MI Tawas City / Country / 50kw / 5dBµ, mono (179 mi.)
104.9 CFDC ON Shelburne / Country 105 / 50kw / 15dBµ, mono (44 mi.)
105.1 CKQM ON Peterborough / Pure Country 105 / 25kw / 5dBµ, mono (92 mi.)
105.3 CJMX ON Sudbury / KiSS 105.3 / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono (124 mi.)
105.3 CFCA ON Kitchener / Virgin Radio / 100kw / 5dBµ, m. in null (104 mi.)
*105.5 CFBK ON Huntsville / Moose FM / 43.4kw / 25dBµ, stereo (61 mi.)
105.7 WZTK MI Alpena / News Talk Sports / 4.5kw / 5dBµ, mono (170 mi.)
105.7 WSRW MI Grand Rapids / Star 105.7 / 265kw / 5dBµ, mono (313 mi.)
105.7 CJMI ON Strathroy / myFM / 1.75kw / fade up (153 mi.)
*105.9 CICX ON Orillia / Pure Country 106 / 20kw / RDS / 35dBµ, st. (28 mi.)
106.1 WTZM MI Tawas City / The Point / 25kw / 10dBµ, mono (184 mi.)
106.1 CIMJ ON Guelph / Magic 106.1 / 50kw / weak (94 mi.)
106.3 CFXN ON North Bay / Moose FM / 10kw / 10dBµ, mono (105 mi.)
106.3 WGER MI Saginaw / Mix 106.3 / 4.4kw / 1dBµ, mono in null (216 mi.)
*106.5 CIXK ON Owen Sound / Mix 106.5 / 28kw / RDS / 35dBµ, stereo (51 mi.)
106.7 WSRT MI Gaylord / ESPN N. Michigan / 100kw / 5dBµ, mono (236 mi.)
106.7 WLLZ MI Detroit / Detroit's Wheels / 61kw / 5dBµ, mono (230 mi.)
*106.9 CBL-1 ON Huntsville / CBC Music Toronto / 70kw / 35dBµ, st. (54 mi.)
107.1 CILQ ON Toronto / Q107 / 40kw / 10dBµ, mono (89 mi.)
107.3 -
*107.5 CKMB ON Barrie / Kool FM / 50kw / RDS / 40dBµ, stereo (37 mi.)
107.7 WHSB MI Alpena / The Bay / 100kw / 7dBµ, mono (181 mi.)
107.7 CBEZ ON Britt / CBC R. 1 Sudbury / 49w / 7dBµ, mono (69 mi.)
107.9 WCRZ MI Flint / Cars 108 / 50kw / 5dBµ, mono (219 mi.)
107.9 CJXY ON Burlington / Y108 / 26.1kw / 5dBµ, mono (101 mi.)

Inconclusive signals: 99.3, 102.7
RDS was not monitored atop the bluff; all RDS noted is from 1st Beach

Station Notes:

99.5 WYSS MI Sault Ste. Marie is at 1.3kw from a backup tower instead of 100kw
105.5 WMKD MI Pickford is at 700w from a backup tower instead of 100kw

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[Index] Session 1 Raw Audio Bandscan: 1st Beach

02:30 89.1 CISO ON Orillia / Max FM / 2.5kw / RDS / 20dBµ, mono (30 mi.)
07:47 90.5 WPHN MI Gaylord / The Promise FM / 100kw / 15dBµ, mono (203 mi.)
15:55 92.5 WFDX MI Atlanta / The Fox FM / 100kw / 5dBµ, mono (212 mi.)
21:13 93.1 CHAY ON Barrie / Fresh Radio 93.1 / 100kw / RDS / 35dBµ, st. (37 mi.)
27:58 94.5 CIBU ON Wingham / Cl. Rock 94-5 / 75kw / RDS / 15dBµ, mono (78 mi.)
34:08 95.7 CFJB ON Barrie / Rock 95 / 100kw / RDS / 30dBµ, stereo (37 mi.)
38:13 96.5 CJBC-3 ON Penetanguishene / Ici Première / 15.3kw / 45dBµ, m. only (5 mi.)
42:21 97.5 CBCE ON Little Current / CBC R. 1 Sudbury / 21kw / 5dBµ, mono (122 mi.)
47:18 98.5 WUPS MI Harrison / UPS 98.5 / 100kw / faint (235 mi.)
53:15 99.7 WUGN MI Midland / Family Life R. / 100kw / 5dBµ, mono (242 mi.)
59:45 101.3 CKUN ON Christian Is. / Beausoleil Nish R. / 900w / 50dBµ, st. (8 mi.)
65:50 102.3 CJMU ON Gravenhurst / Country 102 / 23kw / RDS / 25dBµ, stereo (39 mi.)
74:33 104.1 CICZ ON Midland / The Dock / 20kw / RDS / 30dBµ, stereo (28 mi.)
80:25 105.5 CFBK ON Huntsville / Moose FM / 43.4kw / 20dBµ, stereo (61 mi.)
87:07 106.5 CIXK ON Owen Sound / Mix 106.5 / 28kw / RDS / 20dBµ, stereo (51 mi.)

Ms pings audible at 20:24 (92.9), 34:52 (95.7), 67:15 (102.5)
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Re: Lake Huron FM Bandscans

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Thanks for posting that.

I lived up in that area for many years. When I left there in 1995, many of those stations didn't even exist yet. Up until the late 70s there was no local FM. DX was the only way to go. I had a yagi antenna and I was always rotating it around looking for something I could listen to. Nothing was reliable from day to day.

I'm curious about the term you used "Raw Audio." What is that?
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Turkeytop wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:50 pm I'm curious about the term you used "Raw Audio." What is that?
Raw audio is just a recording with no editing. Turn the recording device on and leave it on until the end. Didn't clip, cut, edit, anything. Not my usual fashion of recording things for sure, but I wanted something that was just as-is to save from this whole bandscan project. I did the same up at Killbear too, though conditions were less interesting to record. They were far better for my 2nd scan at Awenda, but I was busy recording individual clips for that and skipping around the band.

I've heard much the same about the area having a rather vacant band. I assume Barrie didn't have much of anything on at the time? Even 102.3 came on between last summer's scans and this summer's. And the flamethrower in that area - WPHN - which I listened to all the way across Northern Ontario to the Quebec line last summer (and appears in all my Sudbury and North Bay scans) - will be wiped out by the new 90.5 when it comes on.

I think that pre-90s Penetanguishene is comparable to today's Tobermory. Like one hour it's Grand Rapids, the next hour it's Marquette, then Buffalo and Erie.
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I lived on the other side of Georgian Bay. On the Bruce Peninsula that Juts between Lake Huron and Georgian Bay. Where the yellow dot is. Back when there was no local FM I used to often get reception from Norther MI. Alpena etc.

Our first FM that could provide reliable reception was CKNX 101.7 in Wingham, about 50 miles away. It came along in 1977. Shortly after that, CHAY 93.1 from Barrie opened up. They were about 90 miles away but their 100 KW signal came mostly over water. CBC 98.7 started in Owen sound in 1983. a 100 KW blowtorch. Their tower was only about 15 miles away

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Turkeytop wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:09 pm I lived on the other side of Georgian Bay. On the Bruce Peninsula that Juts between Lake Huron and Georgian Bay. Where the yellow dot is. Back when there was no local FM I used to often get reception from Norther MI. Alpena etc.
I'm sure you've already seen it, but you can always see my Tobermory scans here or my Collingwood scan... well, it seems I haven't put that online yet, but I'm sure I'll post it here in the forum soon enough until I do so.
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Thanks for posting that Tobermory link. I haven't seen that before. Nice to see the photos. It's been over 20 years since I've been up there. Nothing has changed.

Many of those stations you listed, I heard at one time or another when I lived up there. But it amazes me that you got them all. Were they all listenable? Or was it just short bursts of reception?
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Turkeytop wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:43 pm Were they all listenable? Or was it just short bursts of reception?
Primarily, there are a handful that are strong locals that are in strong 24/7 and can be heard just on the car radio, a portable, or with almost anything. Those are generally 90.5 The Promise FM, 92.5 The Fox FM, 99.9 The Wave, the Owen Sound area stations (plus 94.5), the Manitoulin stations, the big Barrie stations like CHAY, and the big 100kw Sudbury ones.

The only case in which stations were a short burst of reception would be when the signal was listed as "briefly" or "in + out" and other such words. Otherwise, assume that the signal was stable.

Even when Grand Rapids was in for the night, they sounded pretty much the same as they would 60 miles from the tower. I tuned those in all the way from Point Clark up to Tobermory in solid with RDS. Like you said, things come and go depending on conditions. Tobermory isn't a coastal site really, it's a site in the middle of the water, meaning that the signals don't behave the same as in a normal coastal location, forced downward where the marine layer hits the over-land layer of air (this causes signals on the beach to be strong and stable whereas over the water, they're weaker and come and go); it instead sounds exactly like my scans in the middle of Lake Michigan with a lot of ins and outs and fades and changes in stations and conditions. If you've done this for two decades like myself, you can hear the difference between the two very quickly. The same is true of Lake Superior's coast at water level below the ducts. A lot of weak and fadey signals compared to some higher elevation along the coast. The elevation of the Bruce Peninsula is low enough that stations cross over it between Lake Huron and Georgian Bay as if the peninsula weren't even there.

So Tobermory is a bit of a unique location for radio, but it's quite possible to just put those few stations on your car's presets and tune in reliably (excluding from October to April).
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Au Gres Bandscan

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Au Gres, which lies between Tawas City and Standish, is the second of seven Saginaw Bay bandscan sites, the others being East Tawas (last year), Bay City, Caseville, Port Austin (twice), Pointe aux Barques (north of Port Hope), and Harbor Beach (twice).

Au Gres isn't that notable in scenery - it's mostly known for fishing and little else - and reception patterns are as expected with the usual Toronto, Barrie, and Cleveland stations in, though a decent number of inland stations into West Michigan too (beyond the usual WBCT, WVGR, WSRW, WBLV, etc.), partly because of the water path to the southwest. Reception was taken on the shore as well as at the end of the breakwater in comparison.

Stay tuned for the other Saginaw Bay scans. All have been completed except for Bay City at the moment.

AU GRES, MICHIGAN BANDSCAN
July 13, 2019 1235 - 1600 / 85-92°F, clear to p. cloudy, N wind
Location: 44°01'27.9"N 83°40'20.8"W (Au Gres Rivermouth)
44°01'12.2"N 83°39'59.2"W (end of breakwater, 1 mi. from mainland)
584-587 feet (4-7 feet above beach level)
174 stations total / Average distance: 104 mi.

* station received on seek

88.1 WYCE MI Wyoming / AAA / 10kw / 5dBµ, mono (127 mi.)
88.1 CBEE ON Chatham / CBC R. 1 Windsor / 1.43kw / 5dBµ, mono, weak (135 mi.)
88.1 WSFP MI Harrisville / Smile FM / 20kw / 3dBµ, mono (47 mi.)
*88.3 WEJC MI White Star / Smile FM / 55kw / RDS / 30dBµ, stereo (31 mi.)
*88.5 WCTP MI Gagetown / Christian / 6kw / 30dBµ, stereo (34 mi.)
88.5 WIAB MI Mackinaw City / Classical IPR //88.7 / 50kw / 5dBµ, mono null (126 mi.)
88.7 WIAA MI Interlochen / Classical IPR //88.5 / 100kw / 15dBµ, mono (103 mi.)
88.7 CIMX ON Windsor / 89X / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono (133 mi.)
88.9 WGZR MI Alpena / Baraga R. //91.3 / 1.5kw / 10dBµ, mono (58 mi.)
*89.1 WLKB MI Bay City / K-Love / 50kw / RDS / 35dBµ, stereo (35 mi.)
89.3 WSMB MI Harbor Beach / Smile FM / 12kw / 20dBµ, mono (41 mi.)
89.3 CKGW ON Chatham / UCB Canada / 18.7kw / 5dBµ, mono (135 mi.)
*89.5 WCMU MI Mt. Pleasant / CMU Public R. / 100kw / 20dBµ, stereo (63 mi.)
*89.7 WJOJ MI Rust Twp. / Smile FM / 31kw / 25dBµ, mono (47 mi.)
89.9 CBE ON Windsor / CBC Music Windsor / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono in IBOC null (134 mi.)
89.9 WLJN MI Traverse City / Christian / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono in IBOC null (111 mi.)
*90.1 WUCX MI Bay City / Q90.1 FM / 30kw / 35dBµ, stereo (33 mi.)
90.3 WCPN OH Cleveland / Public & Jazz / 47kw / 7dBµ, mono in IBOC null (208 mi.)
90.3 WBLV MI Twin Lake / Blue Lake Public R. / 100kw / 5dBµ, mono in IBOC null (123 mi.)
90.5 WKAR MI East Lansing / NPR & Classical / 85kw / 10dBµ, mono (99 mi.)
90.5 WPHN MI Gaylord / The Promise FM //91.1 / 100kw / 5dBµ, mono (81 mi.)
90.7 WBHL MI Harrison / Strong Tower R. / 10kw / 10dBµ, mono (44 mi.)
90.7 WNFR MI Sandusky / Hope FM / 42kw / 5dBµ, mono (80 mi.)
90.9 WMSD MI Rose Twp. / Religious / 15kw / 15dBµ, mono (33 mi.)
90.9 WTRK MI Freeland / Air1 / 430w / 10dBµ, mono (35 mi.)
90.9 WRCJ MI Detroit / Classical & Jazz / 22.5kw / 5dBµ, mono (112 mi.)
91.1 WFUM MI Flint / Michigan Radio //91.7 104.1 / 17.5kw / 10dBµ, mono (78 mi.)
91.1 CJRT ON Toronto / Jazz.FM91 / 40kw / 5dBµ, mono in null (215 mi.)
91.1 WOLW MI Cadillac / The Promise FM //90.5 / 50kw / in null (103 mi.)
*91.3 WGJU MI East Tawas / Baraga Radio / 20kw / 35dBµ, mono only (17 mi.)
*91.5 WMHW MI Mt. Pleasant / Mountain 91.5 / 9.1kw / 10dBµ, mono (63 mi.)
91.7 WCML MI Alpena / CMU Public R. / 92kw / 20dBµ, mono (81 mi.)
91.7 WUOM MI Ann Arbor / Michigan R. //91.1 104.1 / 93kw / 5dBµ, mono in null (112 mi.)
91.9 CBEW-1 ON Leamington / CBC R. 1 Windsor / 10.45kw / 5dBµ, mono (141 mi.)
92.1 WIDL MI Cass City / i-92 / 25kw / 15dBµ, mono (41 mi.)
92.1 WQTX MI St. Johns / Fuel 92.1 / 4kw / 10dBµ, mono in null (90 mi.)
92.3 CJOS ON Owen Sound / The Dock / 9.4kw / 5dBµ, mono (139 mi.)
92.3 WMXD MI Detroit / Mix 92.3 / 45kw / 5dBµ, mono (121 mi.)
92.5 WFDX MI Atlanta / The Fox FM / 100kw / RDS / 20dBµ, stereo (76 mi.)
92.5 WBGV MI Marlette / Country 92.5 / 3kw / 10dBµ, mono in null (62 mi.)
92.7 CJBX ON London / Pure Country 93 / 50kw / 15dBµ, mono (150 mi.)
92.7 WDZZ MI Flint / Z92.7 / 3kw / weak in null (68 mi.)
92.9 WJZQ MI Cadillac / Z93 / 100kw / 7dBµ, mono (85 mi.)
93.1 CHAY ON Barrie / Fresh Radio 93.1 / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono (198 mi.)
93.1 WDRQ MI Detroit / Nash FM / 26.5kw / 5dBµ, mono (110 mi.)
*93.3 WKQZ MI Midland / Z-93 / 39kw / RDS / 50dBµ, stereo (24 mi.)
93.5 CBCL ON London / CBC R. 1 London / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono (138 mi.)
93.5 WHMI MI Howell / Classic Hits / 5.2kw / weak in null (95 mi.)
93.7 WBCT MI Grand Rapids / B93 / 320kw / 15dBµ, mono (134 mi.)
93.7 WRCL MI Frankenmuth / Club 93-7 / 3.5kw / 15dBµ, mono (50 mi.)
93.7 CKYC ON Owen Sound / Country 93 / 22kw / 10dBµ, mono (139 mi.)
93.9 WAVC MI Mio / Strong Tower R. / 50kw / 15dBµ, mono (59 mi.)
93.9 CIDR ON Windsor / The River / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono (133 mi.)
94.1 WWDK MI Jackson / Duke FM / 40kw / 10dBµ, mono (123 mi.)
94.3 CKSY ON Chatham / Adult Contemp. / 50kw / 15dBµ, mono (135 mi.)
*94.5 WCEN MI Hemlock / The Moose / 100kw / RDS / 40dBµ, stereo (51 mi.)
94.7 CHKX ON Hamilton / KX 94.7 / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono (205 mi.)
94.9 WKJZ MI Hillman / Hits FM //103.3 / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (70 mi.)
94.9 WMMQ MI East Lansing / Cl. Rock 94.9 / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (105 mi.)
95.1 CKUE ON Chatham / Cool FM / 42kw / 20dBµ, mono (135 mi.)
95.1 WFBE MI Flint / Nash FM / 34kw / RDS / 15dBµ, mono (73 mi.)
95.3 CING ON Hamilton / Fresh Radio 95.3 / 100kw / 20dBµ, mono (203 mi.)
95.3 WCFX MI Clare / CFX 95.3 / 6kw / 10dBµ, mono (60 mi.)
95.5 CIYN ON Kincardine / myFM / 5.66kw / 10dBµ, mono (102 mi.)
95.5 WKQI MI Detroit / Channel 955 / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono (110 mi.)
*95.7 WCMB MI Oscoda / CMU Public R. / 25kw / RDS / 35dBµ, stereo (45 mi.)
95.9 CFPL ON London / FM96 / 300kw / 15dBµ, mono (142 mi.)
*96.1 WHNN MI Bay City / My 96.1 / 100kw / RDS / 55dBµ, stereo (33 mi.)
96.3 CFMZ ON Toronto / New Classical 96.3 FM / 60kw / 10dBµ, mono (215 mi.)
96.3 WLXT MI Petoskey / Lite 96.3 / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono in null (107 mi.)
96.5 W243EA MI Gladwin / The Northern Light //1350 / 250w / 10dBµ, mono (44 mi.)
96.5 CJBC-3 ON Penetanguishene / Ici Première Tor. / 15.3kw / 5dBµ, mono (189 mi.)
96.7 CHYM ON Kitchener / Adult Contemp. / 80kw / 10dBµ, mono, dominant (158 mi.)
96.7 WRGZ MI Rogers City / Country //99.3 / 42kw / 10dBµ, mono (92 mi.)
96.7 CHYR ON Leamington / Mix 96.7 / 27kw / 10dBµ, mono (138 mi.)
*96.9 WWCM MI Standish / CMU Public R. / 3kw / RDS / 40dBµ, stereo (17 mi.)
97.1 CBL-4 ON Owen Sound / CBC Music Toronto / 20.22kw / 5dBµ, mono (145 mi.)
97.1 WXYT MI Detroit / The Ticket / 15kw / 5dBµ, mono (109 mi.)
*97.3 WMJO MI Essexville / Joe FM / 3kw / RDS / 25dBµ, stereo (36 mi.)
97.5 WKLT MI Kalkaska / KLT The Rock Sta. //98.9 / 32kw / 10dBµ, mono (94 mi.)
97.5 CIQM ON London / Virgin Radio / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (138 mi.)
97.5 CBCE ON Little Current / CBC R. 1 Sudbury / 21kw / 10dBµ, mono (155 mi.)
*97.7 WMRX MI Beaverton / Sunny 97-7 / 4.1kw / 25dBµ, stereo (44 mi.)
97.7 WTGV MI Sandusky / Classic Hits / 3kw / 10dBµ, mono (60 mi.)
97.9 WJLB MI Detroit / Urban / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (115 mi.)
97.9 WIHC MI Newberry / Strong Tower R. / 50kw / 5dBµ, mono (181 mi.)
97.9 WGRD MI Grand Rapids / 97-9 GRD / 13kw / 5dBµ, mono (130 mi.)
*98.1 WKCQ MI Saginaw / 98-KCQ / 50kw / RDS / 30dBµ, stereo (44 mi.)
98.3 WLCS MI North Muskegon / Cl. Hits 98.3 / 1.6kw / 3dBµ, mono (133 mi.)
98.3 WCMZ MI Sault Ste. Marie / CMU Public R. / 25kw / weak (172 mi.)
*98.5 WUPS MI Harrison / 98.5 UPS / 100kw / RDS / 30dBµ, stereo (56 mi.)
98.5 WQLH WI Green Bay / Star 98 / 100kw / 5dBµ, mono in null (225 mi.)
98.7 CBCB ON Owen Sound / CBC R. 1 Toronto / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono (145 mi.)
98.7 WDZH MI Detroit / The Breeze / 50kw / 5dBµ, mono (116 mi.)
98.9 CHCD ON Simcoe / myFM / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (190 mi.)
98.9 WOWE MI Vassar / 98.9 Jamz / 3kw / 10dBµ, mono (51 mi.)
98.9 WKLZ MI Petoskey / KLT The Rock Sta. //97.5 / 100kw / 5dBµ, mono (118 mi.)
99.1 CBLA ON Toronto / CBC R. 1 Toronto / 98kw / 5dBµ, mono (215 mi.)
99.1 WFMK MI East Lansing / Adult Contemp. / 28kw / 5dBµ, mono (102 mi.)
99.1 WMYX WI Milwaukee / The Mix / 50kw / 5dBµ, mono (232 mi.)
*99.3 WATZ MI Alpena / Country //96.7 / 17kw / RDS / 25dBµ, stereo (58 mi.)
99.5 WDCX NY Buffalo / Christian / 110kw / 7dBµ, mono (264 mi.)
99.5 WYCD MI Detroit / Country / 17.5kw / 5dBµ, mono in null (111 mi.)
*99.7 WUGN MI Midland / Family Life R. / 100kw / RDS / 40dBµ, stereo (56 mi.)
99.9 WHAK MI Rogers City / The Wave / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (96 mi.)
99.9 CFGX ON Sarnia / The Fox / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (102 mi.)
100.1 WSWR OH Shelby / My 100.1 / 3kw / 3dBµ, mono (219 mi.)
100.3 WQON MI Grayling / Q100 / 60kw / 15dBµ, mono (63 mi.)
100.3 WNIC MI Dearborn / Adult Contemp. / 32kw / 5dBµ, mono in null (116 mi.)
*100.5 WSGW MI Carrollton / FM Talk & Sports / 3kw / RDS / 25dBµ, stereo (35 mi.)
100.5 CBBL ON London / CBC Music Toronto / 15.34kw / 5dBµ, mono (138 mi.)
100.7 WWTH MI Oscoda / Thunder 100.7 / 20.5kw / 25dBµ, stereo (41 mi.)
100.7 WITL MI Lansing / Country / 26.5kw / in null (102 mi.)
*100.9 WLUN MI Pinconning / ESPN 100.9 / 2.6kw / RDS / 40dBµ, stereo (24 mi.)
101.1 WGRY MI Roscommon / Y101 Sports / 3.4kw / 5dBµ, mono (63 mi.)
101.3 WSUE MI Sault Ste. Marie / Rock 101 / 100kw / 7dBµ, mono (170 mi.)
101.3 WBFX MI Grand Rapids / The Brew / 50kw / 5dBµ, mono (108 mi.)
101.5 WMJZ MI Gaylord / Eagle 101.5 / 50kw / 7dBµ, mono, dominant (78 mi.)
101.5 WWBN MI Tuscola / Banana 101.5 / 1.8kw / 10dBµ, mono (57 mi.)
*101.7 WPRJ MI Coleman / Radio U / 4.6kw / 20dBµ, mono (42 mi.)
101.7 CKNX ON Wingham / The One / 100kw / 5dBµ, mono in null (122 mi.)
101.9 WLDR MI Traverse City / Adult Contemp. / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono (112 mi.)
101.9 WDET MI Detroit / Public Variety / 48kw / 10dBµ, mono (119 mi.)
*102.1 WLEW MI Bad Axe / Cruise 102.1 / 50kw / RDS / 55dBµ, stereo (29 mi.)
102.3 WYBR MI Big Rapids / Y-102 / 10.5kw / 5dBµ, mono + 102.1 (98 mi.)
*102.5 WIOG MI Bay City / CHR / 86kw / RDS / 40dBµ, stereo (39 mi.)
102.7 WDKL MI Mt. Clemens / K-Love / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (110 mi.)
102.7 WRVM WI Suring / Voice of the Master / 98kw / 5dBµ, mono (242 mi.)
102.9 WFUR MI Grand Rapids / Christian / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (126 mi.)
102.9 CKLH ON Hamilton / K-Lite / 40.3kw / good in car (196 mi.)
102.9 WWWW MI Ann Arbor / W4 Country / 50kw / 5dBµ, mono in null (123 mi.)
*103.1 WGDN MI Gladwin / 103 Country / 11.5kw / RDS / 30dBµ, stereo (44 mi.)
103.1 CFHK ON St. Thomas / Fresh Radio 103.1 / 50kw / 5dBµ, mono in null (150 mi.)
*103.3 WQLB MI Tawas City / Hits FM //94.9 / 15kw / 40dBµ, stereo (27 mi.)
103.5 WTCM MI Traverse City / Country / 100kw / 15dBµ, mono (105 mi.)
103.5 WMUZ MI Detroit / The Light / 50kw / 5dBµ, mono in null (116 mi.)
*103.7 WCZE MI Harbor Beach / Positive Country / 43kw / RDS / 25dBµ, mono (41 mi.)
103.7 WRTS PA Erie / Star 104 / 50kw / 7dBµ, mono in null (231 mi.)
103.9 CKDK ON Woodstock / Country 104 / 51kw / 15dBµ, mono (159 mi.)
103.9 WRSR MI Owosso / The Fox / 2.85kw / 5dBµ, mono (73 mi.)
*104.1 WSAG MI Linwood / The Bay / 4.6kw / 30dBµ, stereo (25 mi.)
104.1 WVGR MI Grand Rapids / Michigan R. //91.1 91.7 / 96kw / 3dBµ, m. null (133 mi.)
104.3 WOMC MI Detroit / Classic Hits / 190kw / RDS / 15dBµ, mono (111 mi.)
104.3 WCZY MI Mt. Pleasant / My 104.3 / 3kw / 10dBµ, mono in null (41 mi.)
*104.5 WILZ MI Saginaw / Wheelz 104.5 / 2.9kw / 15dBµ, mono (45 mi.)
104.5 CHUM ON Toronto / Hot AC / 40kw / in null (215 mi.)
*104.7 WKJC MI Tawas City / Country / 50kw / RDS / 50dBµ, stereo (27 mi.)
104.9 WQBX MI Alma / Hot AC / 6kw / 10dBµ, mono (65 mi.)
105.1 WMGC MI Detroit / The Bounce / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (111 mi.)
105.3 CFCA ON Kitchener / Virgin Radio / 100kw / 15dBµ, mono (158 mi.)
105.3 WHTS MI Coopersville / Hot FM / 20kw / 5dBµ, mono in null (122 mi.)
105.5 WBMI MI West Branch / Classic Hit Country / 6kw / 20dBµ, mono (35 mi.)
105.5 WWCK MI Flint / CK105.5 / 25kw / 10dBµ, mono (70 mi.)
105.7 WSRW MI Grand Rapids / Star 105.7 / 265kw / 10dBµ, mono, dominant (133 mi.)
105.7 WMJI OH Cleveland / Majic 105.7 / 16kw / 10dBµ, mono (208 mi.)
105.7 WZTK MI Alpena / News Talk Sports / 4.5kw / weak in car (73 mi.)
105.7 WAPL WI Appleton / Rock / 100kw / in null (215 mi.)
105.9 WKHQ MI Charlevoix / 106 KHQ / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono (106 mi.)
105.9 WDMK MI Detroit / Kiss-FM / 20kw / 10dBµ, mono (110 mi.)
*106.1 WTZM MI Tawas City / The Point / 25kw / RDS / 45dBµ, stereo (17 mi.)
*106.3 WGER MI Saginaw / Mix 106.3 / 4.4kw / 30dBµ, stereo (40 mi.)
106.3 WGLM MI Lakeview / M106-3 & M-1380 / 3kw / 5dBµ, mono in null (90 mi.)
106.5 CIXK ON Owen Sound / Mix 106.5 / 28kw / 10dBµ, mono (139 mi.)
106.7 WLLZ MI Detroit / Detroit's Wheels / 61kw / RDS / 10dBµ, mono (121 mi.)
106.7 WSRT MI Gaylord / ESPN N. Michigan / 100kw / 5dBµ, mono (91 mi.)
*106.9 W295CU MI Tawas City / WIOS-AM 1480 / 250w / 20dBµ, mono (17 mi.)
106.9 WOOD MI Muskegon / NewsRadio 106.9 & 1300 / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono in null (132 mi.)
*107.1 WTLZ MI Saginaw / Kiss 107.1 / 4.9kw / 15dBµ, mono (48 mi.)
107.3 WTNR MI Greenville / Thunder Country / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (109 mi.)
107.5 WGPR MI Detroit / Hot 107.5 / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (119 mi.)
107.5 CKMB ON Barrie / Kool FM / 50kw / 3dBµ, mono (198 mi.)
107.7 WHSB MI Alpena / The Bay / 100kw / 15dBµ, mono (72 mi.)
*107.9 WCRZ MI Flint / Cars 108 / 50kw / 15dBµ, mono (72 mi.)
107.9 CJXY ON Burlington / Y108 / 26.1kw / 5dBµ, mono in null (195 mi.)

Inconclusive signals: 89.5
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Caseville Bandscan

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CASEVILLE, MICHIGAN BANDSCAN
July 14, 2019 1230-1425 & 1450-1510 / 73-78°F, clear
Location: 43°56'51.7"N 83°16'40.4"W
at lake level in Caseville County Park
149 stations total / Average distance: 97 mi.

A full bandscan at the county park in Caseville, which just so happened to coincide with the triathlon - same day and time. It wasn't particularly planned in advance, but worked out well in the end either way. Typical reception from northern Michigan, Tri-Cities, Barrie, London, and Toronto as expected.

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88.1 CBEE ON Chatham / CBC R. 1 Windsor / 1.43kw / faint (120 mi.)
88.3 WEJC MI White Star / Smile FM / 55kw / 25dBµ, stereo (44 mi.)
*88.5 WCTP MI Gagetown / Christian //105.1 / 6kw / 40dBµ, stereo (16 mi.)
88.7 WIAA MI Interlochen / Classical IPR / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono (123 mi.)
88.9 WGZR MI Alpena / Baraga R. //91.3 / 1.5kw / 10dBµ, mono (64 mi.)
*89.1 WLKB MI Bay City / K-Love / 50kw / RDS / 40dBµ, stereo (44 mi.)
*89.3 WSMB MI Harbor Beach / Smile FM / 12kw / 30dBµ, mono only (23 mi.)
89.5 WCMU MI Mt. Pleasant / CMU Public R. / 100kw / 15dBµ, mono (79 mi.)
*89.7 WJOJ MI Rust Twp. / Smile FM / 31kw / 25dBµ, mono only (54 mi.)
89.9 WLJN MI Traverse City / Christian / 100kw / 10dBµ, m., IBOC in null (131 mi.)
89.9 CBE ON Windsor / CBC Music Windsor / 100kw / 5dBµ, m., IBOC in null (125 mi.)
*90.1 WUCX MI Bay City / Q90.1 FM / 30kw / RDS / 30dBµ, stereo (34 mi.)
90.3 WBLV MI Twin Lake / Blue Lake Public R. / 100kw / 7dBµ, mono, dom. (141 mi.)
90.3 CJBC ON Toronto / Ici Musique Tor. / 10kw / 5dBµ, m., IBOC in null (195 mi.)
90.5 WPHN MI Gaylord / The Promise FM / 100kw / 15dBµ, mono (93 mi.)
90.5 WKAR MI East Lansing / NPR & Classical / 85kw / 15dBµ, mono (103 mi.)
90.5 CKXM ON Exeter / myFM / 2.95kw / 5dBµ, mono (94 mi.)
90.7 WNFR MI Sandusky / Hope FM / 42kw / 15dBµ, mono (63 mi.)
90.7 WBHL MI Harrison / Strong Tower R. / 10kw / 5dBµ, mono (63 mi.)
90.9 WMSD MI Rose Twp. / Religious / 15kw / 10dBµ, mono (49 mi.)
90.9 WTRK MI Freeland / Air1 / 430w / 10dBµ, mono (44 mi.)
90.9 CIYN-2 ON Port Elgin / MyFM //95.5 / 3.1kw / 10dBµ, mono (101 mi.)
91.1 WFUM MI Flint / Michigan Radio / 17.5kw / 7dBµ, mono (73 mi.)
91.3 WGJU MI East Tawas / Baraga R. //88.9 / 20kw / 25dBµ, m. only (30 mi.)
91.5 WMHW MI Mt. Pleasant / Mountain 91.5 / 9.1kw / 15dBµ, mono (79 mi.)
91.7 WCML MI Alpena / CMU Public R. / 92kw / 15dBµ, mono (93 mi.)
91.7 WUOM MI Ann Arbor / Michigan Radio / 93kw / 7dBµ, mono in null (111 mi.)
91.9 CKLY ON Lindsay / Bob FM / 11.4kw / 5dBµ, mono (228 mi.)
91.9 CBEW-1 ON Leamington / CBC R. 1 Windsor / 10.45kw / 5dBµ, mono (130 mi.)
*92.1 WIDL MI Cass City / i-92 / 25kw / 15dBµ, mono (25 mi.)
92.3 CJOS ON Owen Sound / The Dock / 9.4kw / 15dBµ, mono (121 mi.)
92.3 WMXD MI Detroit / Mix 92.3 / 45kw / weak in null (112 mi.)
92.5 WFDX MI Atlanta / The Fox FM / 100kw / 15dBµ, mono (91 mi.)
92.5 WJSZ MI Ashley / Z92-5 The Castle / 4kw / 10dBµ, mono (79 mi.)
92.5 WBGV MI Marlette / Country 92.5 / 3kw / 5dBµ, mono in null (48 mi.)
92.7 CJBX ON London / Pure Country 93 / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (130 mi.)
92.9 WJZQ MI Cadillac / Z93 / 100kw / 5dBµ, mono (105 mi.)
93.1 CHAY ON Barrie / Fresh Radio 93.1 / 100kw / 15dBµ, mono (180 mi.)
*93.3 WKQZ MI Midland / Z-93 / 39kw / RDS / 40dBµ, stereo (41 mi.)
93.5 CBCL ON London / CBC R. 1 London / 100kw / 15dBµ, mono (118 mi.)
93.7 CKYC ON Owen Sound / Country 93 / 22kw / RDS / 20dBµ, mono (121 mi.)
93.7 WBCT MI Grand Rapids / B93 / 320kw / 10dBµ, mono (145 mi.)
93.7 WRCL MI Frankenmuth / Club 93-7 / 3.5kw / 10dBµ, mono (46 mi.)
93.9 WAVC MI Mio / Strong Tower R. / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (76 mi.)
93.9 WNBY MI Newberry / Oldies 93 / 50kw / good in car (194 mi.)
94.1 CKNR ON Elliot Lake / Moose FM / 90kw / 10dBµ, mono (151 mi.)
94.1 WWDK MI Jackson / Duke FM / 40kw / 5dBµ, mono (128 mi.)
94.3 CKSY ON Chatham / Adult Contemp. / 50kw / 15dBµ, mono (120 mi.)
*94.5 WCEN MI Hemlock / The Moose / 100kw / RDS / 40dBµ, stereo (68 mi.)
94.5 CIBU ON Wingham / Cl. Rock 94-5 / 75kw / 10dBµ, mono in null (103 mi.)
94.7 -
94.9 WKJZ MI Hillman / Hits FM //103.3 / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (81 mi.)
94.9 WMMQ MI East Lansing / Cl. Rock 94.9 / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (111 mi.)
95.1 WFBE MI Flint / Nash FM / 34kw / 15dBµ, mono (70 mi.)
95.1 CKUE ON Chatham / Cool FM / 42kw / 10dBµ, mono (120 mi.)
95.3 WCFX MI Clare / CFX 95.3 / 6kw / 15dBµ, mono (77 mi.)
95.3 CING ON Hamilton / Fresh Radio 95.3 / 100kw / 5dBµ, m. in null (183 mi.)
95.5 WKQI MI Detroit / Channel 955 / 100kw / 5dBµ, mono (102 mi.)
95.5 CIYN ON Kincardine / myFM //90.9 / 5.66kw / 5dBµ, mono (84 mi.)
*95.7 WCMB MI Oscoda / CMU Public R. / 25kw / RDS / 35dBµ, stereo (51 mi.)
95.7 CFJB ON Barrie / Rock 95 / 100kw / in null (180 mi.)
*95.9 CFPL ON London / FM96 / 300kw / 15dBµ, mono (122 mi.)
*96.1 WHNN MI Bay City / My 96.1 / 100kw / RDS / 45dBµ, stereo (34 mi.)
*96.3 WLXT MI Petoskey / Lite 96.3 / 100kw / 15dBµ, mono (123 mi.)
96.3 CFMZ ON Toronto / New Classical 96.3 FM / 60kw / 5dBµ, mono (195 mi.)
96.5 CJBC-3 ON Penetanguishene / Ici Première Tor. / 15.3kw / 10dBµ, m. (172 mi.)
96.5 W243EA MI Gladwin / The Northern Light //1350 / 250w / 10dBµ, m. (63 mi.)
*96.7 CHYM ON Kitchener / Adult Contemp. / 80kw / 20dBµ, stereo, dom. (137 mi.)
96.7 WRGZ MI Rogers City / Country //99.3 / 42kw / 5dBµ, mono (100 mi.)
*96.9 WWCM MI Standish / CMU Public R. / 3kw / RDS / 25dBµ, stereo (37 mi.)
97.1 CBL-4 ON Owen Sound / CBC Music Toronto / 20.22kw / 15dBµ, mono (129 mi.)
97.3 WMJO MI Essexville / Joe FM / 3kw / RDS / 25dBµ, stereo (39 mi.)
97.3 CHBM ON Toronto / Boom 97.3 / 28.9kw / 3dBµ, mono, weak in null (195 mi.)
*97.5 CIQM ON London / Virgin Radio / 50kw / 15dBµ, mono (118 mi.)
97.5 CBCE ON Little Current / CBC R. 1 Sudbury / 21kw / 10dBµ, mono (151 mi.)
97.7 WMRX MI Beaverton / Sunny 97-7 / 4.1kw / 20dBµ, mono (62 mi.)
97.7 WTGV MI Sandusky / Classic Hits / 3kw / 15dBµ, mono (44 mi.)
97.9 CFPS ON Port Elgin / The Beach / 8.95kw / 10dBµ, mono (90 mi.)
97.9 WJLB MI Detroit / Urban / 50kw / 5dBµ, mono (107 mi.)
*98.1 WKCQ MI Saginaw / 98-KCQ / 50kw / RDS / 25dBµ, stereo (49 mi.)
98.3 WCMZ MI Sault Ste. Marie / CMU Public R. / 25kw / 3dBµ, mono (181 mi.)
98.5 WUPS MI Harrison / 98.5 UPS / 100kw / RDS / 20dBµ, stereo (76 mi.)
*98.7 CBCB ON Owen Sound / CBC R. 1 Toronto / 100kw / RDS / 20dBµ, m. only (129 mi.)
98.7 WDZH MI Detroit / The Breeze / 50kw / 7dBµ, mono (107 mi.)
98.9 WOWE MI Vassar / 98.9 Jamz / 3kw / 10dBµ, mono (46 mi.)
98.9 WKLZ MI Petoskey / KLT The Rock Sta. / 100kw / RDS / 5dBµ, mono (134 mi.)
99.1 WFMK MI East Lansing / Adult Contemp. / 28kw / 7dBµ, mono (107 mi.)
99.1 CBLA ON Toronto / CBC R. 1 Toronto / 98kw / faint in null (195 mi.)
99.3 WATZ MI Alpena / Country //96.7 / 17kw / RDS / 25dBµ, stereo (64 mi.)
99.3 W257EO MI Bridgeport / MeTV Music //1250 / 250w / 2dBµ, m. in null (52 mi.)
99.5 WDCX NY Buffalo / Christian / 110kw / 3dBµ, mono (244 mi.)
99.5 WYCD MI Detroit / Country / 17.5kw / 3dBµ, mono (103 mi.)
*99.7 WUGN MI Midland / Family Life R. / 100kw / RDS / 35dBµ, stereo (70 mi.)
99.9 WHAK MI Rogers City / The Wave / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (105 mi.)
99.9 CKFM ON Toronto / Virgin Radio / 40kw / 5dBµ, mono (195 mi.)
100.1 -
100.3 WQON MI Grayling / Q100 / 60kw / 10dBµ, mono (82 mi.)
*100.5 WSGW MI Carrollton / FM Talk & Sports / 3kw / RDS / 15dBµ, mono (44 mi.)
100.5 CBBL ON London / CBC Music Toronto / 15.34kw / 5dBµ, m. in null (118 mi.)
*100.7 WWTH MI Oscoda / Thunder 100.7 / 20.5kw / 35dBµ, stereo (44 mi.)
100.7 WITL MI Lansing / Country / 26.5kw / 5dBµ, mono in null (107 mi.)
*100.9 WLUN MI Pinconning / ESPN 100.9 / 2.6kw / RDS / 30dBµ, stereo (41 mi.)
100.9 CBLA-3 ON Wingham / CBC R. 1 Toronto / 30kw / 15dBµ, mono (104 mi.)
101.1 WRIF MI Detroit / The Riff / 27kw / 5dBµ, mono, weak (102 mi.)
101.3 CKOT ON Tillsonburg / Easy 101 / 26kw / 7dBµ, mono (138 mi.)
101.3 WBFX MI Grand Rapids / The Brew / 50kw / 7dBµ, mono (122 mi.)
101.5 WMJZ MI Gaylord / Eagle 101.5 / 50kw / 3dBµ, mono (93 mi.)
101.7 CKNX ON Wingham / The One / 100kw / 15dBµ, mono (103 mi.)
101.7 WPRJ MI Coleman / Radio U / 4.6kw / 10dBµ, mono (60 mi.)
101.9 WLDR MI Traverse City / Adult Contemp. / 100kw / behind overload (132 mi.)
*102.1 WLEW MI Bad Axe / Cruise 102.1 / 50kw / RDS / 70dBµ, stereo (9 mi.)
102.3 = 102.1
*102.5 WIOG MI Bay City / CHR / 86kw / RDS / 35dBµ, stereo (43 mi.)
102.7 WDKL MI Mt. Clemens / K-Love / 50kw / 3dBµ, mono, weak (102 mi.)
102.9 WFUR MI Grand Rapids / Christian / 50kw / 7dBµ, mono (139 mi.)
102.9 WMKC MI Indian River / Big Country Hits / 100kw / 7dBµ, mono (137 mi.)
*103.1 WGDN MI Gladwin / 103 Country / 11.5kw / 20dBµ, stereo (63 mi.)
103.1 CFHK ON St. Thomas / Fresh Radio 103.1 / 50kw / 5dBµ, m. in null (131 mi.)
*103.3 WQLB MI Tawas City / Hits FM //94.9 / 15kw / 45dBµ, stereo (36 mi.)
103.5 WTCM MI Traverse City / Country / 100kw / 10dBµ, mono (125 mi.)
*103.7 WCZE MI Harbor Beach / Positive Country / 43kw / RDS / 35dBµ, m. only (23 mi.)
103.9 CKDK ON Woodstock / Country 104 / 51kw / 7dBµ, mono (138 mi.)
103.9 WCMW MI Harbor Springs / CMU Public R. / 12kw / 5dBµ, mono (137 mi.)
103.9 WRSR MI Owosso / The Fox / 2.85kw / weak in null (75 mi.)
*104.1 WSAG MI Linwood / The Bay / 4.6kw / 30dBµ, stereo (37 mi.)
104.3 WOMC MI Detroit / Classic Hits / 190kw / 5dBµ, mono (102 mi.)
104.3 WCZY MI Mt. Pleasant / My 104.3 / 3kw / 5dBµ, mono (81 mi.)
104.5 WILZ MI Saginaw / Wheelz 104.5 / 2.9kw / 15dBµ, mono (50 mi.)
*104.7 WKJC MI Tawas City / Country / 50kw / RDS / 50dBµ, stereo (81 mi.)
104.9 WQBX MI Alma / Hot AC / 6kw / 15dBµ, mono (77 mi.)
104.9 CHWC ON Goderich / Country 104.9 / 12.55kw / in null + WQBX (80 mi.)
105.1 W286CI MI Saginaw / Christian //88.5 / 170w / 1dBµ, mono (48 mi.)
105.1 WMGC MI Detroit / The Bounce / 50kw / good in car (103 mi.)
105.3 CFCA ON Kitchener / Virgin Radio / 100kw / 20dBµ, stereo (137 mi.)
105.5 WBMI MI West Branch / Classic Hit Country / 6kw / 10dBµ, mono (55 mi.)
105.7 WSRW MI Grand Rapids / Star 105.7 / 265kw / 5dBµ, mono (144 mi.)
105.7 WZTK MI Alpena / News Talk Sports / 4.5kw / 5dBµ, mono (78 mi.)
105.9 WKHQ MI Charlevoix / Hits 106 KHQ / 100kw / 3dBµ, mono (123 mi.)
*106.1 WTZM MI Tawas City / The Point / 25kw / RDS / 40dBµ, stereo (30 mi.)
*106.3 WGER MI Saginaw / Mix 106.3 / 4.4kw / 20dBµ, stereo (47 mi.)
106.5 CIXK ON Owen Sound / Mix 106.5 / 28kw / RDS / 20dBµ, stereo (121 mi.)
106.7 WSRT MI Gaylord / ESPN N. Michigan / 100kw / 3dBµ, mono (108 mi.)
106.7 WLLZ MI Detroit / Detroit's Wheels / 61kw / weak (112 mi.)
106.9 W295CU MI Tawas City / WIOS-AM 1480 / 250w / 20dBµ, mono (30 mi.)
106.9 WOOD MI Muskegon / NewsRadio 106.9 & 1300 / 50kw / 3dBµ, mono (149 mi.)
107.1 WTLZ MI Saginaw / Kiss 107.1 / 4.9kw / 20dBµ, stereo (52 mi.)
107.3 WTNR MI Greenville / Thunder Country / 50kw / weak (122 mi.)
107.5 WCCW MI Traverse City / The 70s Station / 50kw / RDS / 3dBµ, m. (132 mi.)
107.5 WGPR MI Detroit / Hot 107.5 / 50kw / good in car (110 mi.)
107.7 WHSB MI Alpena / The Bay / 100kw / 15dBµ, mono (80 mi.)
107.7 W299CK MI Midland / The Highway //1490 / 250w / 5dBµ, m. weak in null (52 mi.)
107.9 WCRZ MI Flint / Cars 108 / 50kw / 10dBµ, mono (68 mi.)

Inconclusive signals: 91.5, 92.7, 106.5
Off the air during scan: semi-local 105.5 WWCK (67 mi.)
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Re: Lake Huron FM Bandscans

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Surprised you didn't get CIDC Z103.5 there.
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Re: Lake Huron FM Bandscans

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Inconclusive signals are where a directional gain antenna would help. My guesses.

91.5 WMHW Mt. Pleasant
92.7 WDZZ Flint
106.5 W293CA Flint (WSNL 600) Has Dave Ramsey during that time period.
Is THAT where they got the idea for the 486-SX?

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Re: Lake Huron FM Bandscans

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48125er wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:30 pm Surprised you didn't get CIDC Z103.5 there.
Caseville is a northwest-facing site, meaning that Southwest Ontario signals are not going to be dominant because they are obstructed by land and need to compete with stronger signals from Northern Michigan. Instead, TCM would be most likely in a setup such as that. You can compare this to east-facing Harbor Beach scans where Toronto dominates.
CK-722 wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:20 am Inconclusive signals are where a directional gain antenna would help. My guesses.

91.5 WMHW Mt. Pleasant
92.7 WDZZ Flint
106.5 W293CA Flint (WSNL 600) Has Dave Ramsey during that time period.
Signals marked as inconclusive typically are either 1) so faint that it's impossible to hear them aside from the fact that *something* is there, or, 2) weaker signals that have two likely options, such as the same format with no clues to tell them apart in the allotted time frame. A good example in spots like Bay City is Big Country and W4 Country. Big is always the dominant signal at any coastal location, but Bay City (I'll post those scans later) is at the tip of Saginaw Bay, meaning inland conditions influence, so 50kw W4 actually was in. But it's a good example of just not being sure sometimes, especially if it were a weak signal.

In this case, 91.5 was a weak station in the null of Mountain. There was just nothing to go on, so I couldn't tell if it was WICA (likely, due to the northwest-facing site) or The Beat, also a very common signal. Therefore, it's inconclusive.

92.7 was also too weak to make anything out at all. Sudbury is very common, Flint would be rather expected yet also gets out rather poorly, but Windsor's country station is in there too in this area. There's no information to go on in this case.

106.5 was just *something* in the null. It was there, but not enough of a signal to use. Kalamazoo is the norm in this area as noted at my Bay City site day and night. It's 90% sure to be them, but... because Flint is there too, it's just inconclusive.
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Re: Lake Huron FM Bandscans

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I'll see if I can do some brainstorming with hams and broadcasters on an easily portable and installable tripod design usable for 2 meter, Marti and FM BC DX Yagis. The rod antenna rarely produces ideal results. Maybe back in the 1970s, before the band was crowded, but not now. Often there was only one station in a whole STATE on a frequency.
Is THAT where they got the idea for the 486-SX?

Same (x, y, z), different (t)

Your bullet missed my trial balloon.

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