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Prince Phillip and All Advanced Age Drivers: Dangerous!
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Prince Phillip and All Advanced Age Drivers: Dangerous!
I hope the car crash caused by 97-year old Prince Phillip will start a serious conversation about elderly drivers giving up driving when they reach a certain age.
There was a baby, the mother, and another woman in the other car. Both women were injured. A broken wrist and cuts. The baby is alright. The royal’s Land Rover ended up on its side.
Of all the arguments one hears about in families - taking away the car keys from an elderly parent is one of the most hard fought. Yet - it must be done. Usually the adult children are left with the important task. And often - even after several confrontations on the matter - elderly mom or dad wins.
I think government needs to step in. If there are rules that govern when one is allowed to start driving - there should also be rules about when one must stop driving.
Maybe at a certain age - like 80 - all drivers should have to take a driving test with an evaluator in the passenger seat. A test that goes on for more than an hour. One that includes reaction times, tests of hearing and sight (including night driving), plus a written test about the rules of the road.
A very pervasive and serious arguement in many families. And really - a life or death issue - for everyone out on the road.
There was a baby, the mother, and another woman in the other car. Both women were injured. A broken wrist and cuts. The baby is alright. The royal’s Land Rover ended up on its side.
Of all the arguments one hears about in families - taking away the car keys from an elderly parent is one of the most hard fought. Yet - it must be done. Usually the adult children are left with the important task. And often - even after several confrontations on the matter - elderly mom or dad wins.
I think government needs to step in. If there are rules that govern when one is allowed to start driving - there should also be rules about when one must stop driving.
Maybe at a certain age - like 80 - all drivers should have to take a driving test with an evaluator in the passenger seat. A test that goes on for more than an hour. One that includes reaction times, tests of hearing and sight (including night driving), plus a written test about the rules of the road.
A very pervasive and serious arguement in many families. And really - a life or death issue - for everyone out on the road.
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We had to disable my mother's car to get her to stop driving. Even after she completely bombed the test to renew her license, she kept driving. We owed it to her and everyone on the roads.
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Yes! I have been trying to say this for years!!
But what I think is that people should be required to retake a FULL Drivers Ed Course, not just a retest.
And have it every 15 years!
Not just when you reach like 80.
This would be so beneficial.
It's a burden on the wallets yes, but it's worth it.
But what I think is that people should be required to retake a FULL Drivers Ed Course, not just a retest.
And have it every 15 years!
Not just when you reach like 80.
This would be so beneficial.
It's a burden on the wallets yes, but it's worth it.
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That's discrimination.MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:17 am Kudos to you & your family, Vic, for doing that.
I fully support this proposal. I would also support the notion of restricted licenses for elderly drivers - i.e. no freeway driving, no nighttime driving, etc.Maybe at a certain age - like 80 - all drivers should have to take a driving test with an evaluator in the passenger seat. A test that goes on for more than an hour. One that includes reaction times, tests of hearing and sight (including night driving), plus a written test about the rules of the road.
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I have close relatives that are over 85 and have a perfect driving record over their lifetime (no tickets, no accidents). The drive daily and operate a farm, lifting heavy objects, and are fit as a horse. They have perfect vision (thanks to cataract surgery).
I recently rode with them on I-75 at posted speeds. There is no reason they should be put a battery of tests just because a time stamp.
I recently rode with them on I-75 at posted speeds. There is no reason they should be put a battery of tests just because a time stamp.
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In Ontario, drivers over 80 must do a written and a driving test. The people who administer the tests are members of my Union. One of them told me that when it comes to the driving test, they look to the family member for a signal as to whether Mom, Dad or Granny should be allowed to drive. If the answer is no, they can always fail them for something. None of us are perfect drivers, by the book.
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That's a bit arbitrary. Make better tests, if need be.
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I'm not defending it. I'm just saying that's the way it is. It's probably against the rules of the job.
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If you can’t drive safely (which many folks above around 80 can't) then you should be subject to further scrutiny for the safety of others. This is serious life and death stuff. And those healthy as a horse folks you mention are short timers... would you want the end to come while they are moving 70 mph?audiophile wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:44 pm I have close relatives that are over 85 and have a perfect driving record over their lifetime (no tickets, no accidents). The drive daily and operate a farm, lifting heavy objects, and are fit as a horse. They have perfect vision (thanks to cataract surgery).
I recently rode with them on I-75 at posted speeds. There is no reason they should be put a battery of tests just because a time stamp.
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I asked a cop here in Florida if I'm allowed to ride my bike on the sidewalk. He wiped the cottage cheese from his chin and said "You're not supposed to, but with all the drunks and old people on the road here, you should ride on the sidewalk."
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I would be more concerned with those on opioids, marijuana and alcohol than someone dying while driving.NS8401 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:42 pmIf you can’t drive safely (which many folks above around 80 can't) then you should be subject to further scrutiny for the safety of others. This is serious life and death stuff. And those healthy as a horse folks you mention are short timers... would you want the end to come while they are moving 70 mph?audiophile wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:44 pm I have close relatives that are over 85 and have a perfect driving record over their lifetime (no tickets, no accidents). The drive daily and operate a farm, lifting heavy objects, and are fit as a horse. They have perfect vision (thanks to cataract surgery).
I recently rode with them on I-75 at posted speeds. There is no reason they should be put a battery of tests just because a time stamp.
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Totally agree with you there.audiophile wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:33 pmI would be more concerned with those on opioids, marijuana and alcohol than someone dying while driving.NS8401 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:42 pmIf you can’t drive safely (which many folks above around 80 can't) then you should be subject to further scrutiny for the safety of others. This is serious life and death stuff. And those healthy as a horse folks you mention are short timers... would you want the end to come while they are moving 70 mph?audiophile wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:44 pm I have close relatives that are over 85 and have a perfect driving record over their lifetime (no tickets, no accidents). The drive daily and operate a farm, lifting heavy objects, and are fit as a horse. They have perfect vision (thanks to cataract surgery).
I recently rode with them on I-75 at posted speeds. There is no reason they should be put a battery of tests just because a time stamp.
When was the last time you heard "fatal accident caused by elderly death at the wheel" ?? Never for me!
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Medical emergency accidents happen all the time...stopnswop2 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:56 pmTotally agree with you there.audiophile wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:33 pmI would be more concerned with those on opioids, marijuana and alcohol than someone dying while driving.NS8401 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:42 pmIf you can’t drive safely (which many folks above around 80 can't) then you should be subject to further scrutiny for the safety of others. This is serious life and death stuff. And those healthy as a horse folks you mention are short timers... would you want the end to come while they are moving 70 mph?audiophile wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:44 pm I have close relatives that are over 85 and have a perfect driving record over their lifetime (no tickets, no accidents). The drive daily and operate a farm, lifting heavy objects, and are fit as a horse. They have perfect vision (thanks to cataract surgery).
I recently rode with them on I-75 at posted speeds. There is no reason they should be put a battery of tests just because a time stamp.
When was the last time you heard "fatal accident caused by elderly death at the wheel" ?? Never for me!