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1520 anyone?

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So...what is taking so long to get the two FM translators of WPAY up and running?
Or, why don't the new owners of WPAY at least keep the AM transmitter running on 1520 so it doesn't freeze-up and use it as a 'billboard' for the station?

On an unrelated topic, actually saw a billboard with a giant 106.5FM, expecting it to say 'the Ticket' for 2 seconds until I read that Jesus owned the station now, and not Radio Satan (Cumulus).
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WOHO wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:00 pm So...what is taking so long to get the two FM translators of WPAY up and running?
Or, why don't the new owners of WPAY at least keep the AM transmitter running on 1520 so it doesn't freeze-up and use it as a 'billboard' for the station?

On an unrelated topic, actually saw a billboard with a giant 106.5FM, expecting it to say 'the Ticket' for 2 seconds until I read that Jesus owned the station now, and not Radio Satan (Cumulus).
Saw that billboard last week on Phillips at Sylvania.
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My guess might also be 1520 in Bryan, OH might have had some issues? Trust me you aren't missing that station that much. It always sounded awful, even as WVOI. Over-saturation of religious programming too is another reason to not miss it.
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I'll be happy to take 1520. They have the newest towers (less 1 at 730) and newest AM hardware in the market, AFAIK?
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WOHO wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:58 am I'll be happy to take 1520. They have the newest towers (less 1 at 730) and newest AM hardware in the market, AFAIK?
By today's AM standards, the 1520 facility is still new.

1520, when broadcasting, is louder and cleaner sounding than WSPD or WCWA. Then again, so is 730. When WVOI sounded poor, it was operating full time from the daytime site on Jackman Rd, in Michigan. But that was probably more than 20 years ago.
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Can anyone except Carl E. Smith and Associates get away with submitting this DA Proof of WTTO from 1967 from the Temperance Day site to the FCC? Colonel Flagg and I would have had this returned to be recopied legibly. Can anyone make sense of much of it? I was trying to figure out how WYNZ/WYFC 1520, now WDEO 990, Ypsilanti, was allowed to operate so close by. A whole lot of scribbled notes.

https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS_Att ... &exhcnum=8

History Card.

http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/prod/c ... r_id=68421
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At least their Music Surveys were neat and published.

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WTTO Coverage Maps (they're in there, two of them, if you scroll way down). David Gleason, a native of Cleveland, and Spanish Language Radio Executive, who began a Public Service Presunrise Spanish Language Program at WCCW in the 1960s, collected all these.

https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-O ... ge-Map.pdf
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Ben Zonia, thanks for the nice rounded coverage maps that much more jagged than they appeared. I was amazed at page 27 of the WTTO antenna proof, what a cluster. Heck, numbers weren't even close, and this was a one tower daytime...I can't imagine the cluster for the 6 nite towers. Pretty cute how Day shot South from Michigan and covered Lucas County, and Nights shot North to cover Lucas in Ohio and Monroe County in Michigan? One old timer said they had plans to get 10KW to be Toledo's most powerful AM, but night would have been difficult to protect Buffalo.
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Didn't WTTO call itself "The Rock of Toledo"? I remember hearing it as far as Harrisville at Night.

Did you look at the WDEE 1500 Proof? 25 mS/m conductivity at 107 degrees across the river into Canada! No wonder WCAR 1130 tried to locate on Grosse Ile when they moved from Pontiac. And believe it or not, WWJ tried to relocate to Ecorse back in the late 1940s, after the FCC finally told them they had to use a DA at Night with nulls toward Detroit, after several years of STAs renewed monthly to operate with 5000 watts nondirectional at Night. All on the History Cards.

The area around 8 Mile and Meyers has pretty good conductivity, close to M-3, but it gets bad NW of Square Lake and Telegraph. Supported by numerous Proofs of Performance, and you can see it on the WEXL Proof Map when they went 1000 watts DA-D, and WKNR not going as far North as they do South. Some of that was done so it demonstrated they wouldn't overlap the 0.5 mV/m of WKMF, which was co owned with WKNR at the time. But the contour pull in is real in NW Oakland County.
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