Stupidity In Latest Executive Order

[bmw]

What would interesting to know is the total number of deaths on a weekly basis. ALL DEATHS.

1,505 people die in Michigan every week from all causes.

[bmw]

That’s a bit of a stretch... they rode in a car, got in an accident and died. That’s one thing. An obvious risk.

I didn’t work out enough and had asthma and got coronavirus and died seems far less obvious. It isn’t the same kind of choice. One is pretty direct and the other one you have to make a couple of extensions to complete the circuit. It’s just not quite the same thing.

Contracting coronavirus can be 100% avoided if you self-isolate, just like car accidents can be 100% avoided if you stay out of a car. Moreover, some people can not practically self-isolate any more than some people can not practically avoid riding in or driving a car.

So the analogy seems pretty similar to me.

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That’s a bit of a stretch... they rode in a car, got in an accident and died. That’s one thing. An obvious risk.

I didn’t work out enough and had asthma and got coronavirus and died seems far less obvious. It isn’t the same kind of choice. One is pretty direct and the other one you have to make a couple of extensions to complete the circuit. It’s just not quite the same thing.

Contracting coronavirus can be 100% avoided if you self-isolate, just like car accidents can be 100% avoided if you stay out of a car. Moreover, some people can not practically self-isolate any more than some people can not practically avoid riding in or driving a car.

So the analogy seems pretty similar to me.

So that is a tacit acknowledgement that the idea of bending the Infection curve by isolating is rather sound is it not?

[Matt]

That’s a bit of a stretch... they rode in a car, got in an accident and died. That’s one thing. An obvious risk.

I didn’t work out enough and had asthma and got coronavirus and died seems far less obvious. It isn’t the same kind of choice. One is pretty direct and the other one you have to make a couple of extensions to complete the circuit. It’s just not quite the same thing.

Contracting coronavirus can be 100% avoided if you self-isolate, just like car accidents can be 100% avoided if you stay out of a car. Moreover, some people can not practically self-isolate any more than some people can not practically avoid riding in or driving a car.

So the analogy seems pretty similar to me.

So that is a tacit acknowledgement that the idea of bending the Infection curve by isolating is rather sound is it not?

Maybe. The issue is that individuals should have freedom to make their own choices in an alleged free country.

[bmw]

I don't know why people continue to struggle to differentiate between actual isolation and government rules requiring isolation.

In theory, if every single person living on this entire planet agreed to truly shelter-in-place and literally not leave their property, this virus would be 100% eradicated in something like 2-3 weeks. But obviously nothing remotely close to eradication is happening - hence, demonstrating the limits of what government can do.

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I don't know why people continue to struggle to differentiate between actual isolation and government rules requiring isolation.

In theory, if every single person living on this entire planet agreed to truly shelter-in-place and literally not leave their property, this virus would be 100% eradicated in something like 2-3 weeks. But obviously nothing remotely close to eradication is happening - hence, demonstrating the limits of what government can do.

Nobody said it would 100% stop it... but it is slowing it. Understand too that this isn’t the country’s first rodeo with these kinds of restrictions...

[Bryce]

Over 3,000 people a day, worldwide, loose their life in auto accidents.

Have you given up driving?

If you never drive or ride in a car, you won't die in a auto accident.

If you can prove to me that these people contract Covid-19 by choice we can talk... otherwise this comparison does not compute. We aren’t even in the same zip code subject wise...

Are you inferring that the person that gets broadsided by a drunk at a intersection did so by choice?

[Bryce]

1280 dead in 3 weeks in a community of 10,000,000.

0.000128‬

Did I pass?

Influenza kills 0.000142‬ percent of the population of the State of Michigan each year. Now granted that's a year vs. three weeks, but over time our bodies have built natural antibodies to the various strains of influenza or the death toll there would be much higher too.

Oh, and by the way. I think it makes perfect sense to wear a seat-belt. I do so religiously. I just don't think it's the governments right to force me to do so at the behest of the insurance industry.

[Bryce]

I'd be curious to know what percentage of those who die had an underlying health condition that came as a direct result of that person's personal lifestyle choices.

That's NEVER going to happen.

[TC Talks]

We aren't done folks, deaths jumped 204 today. And fact our deaths are so low means stay in place is working.

[Bryce]

We aren't done folks, deaths jumped 204 today. And fact our deaths are so low means stay in place is working.

I have a feeling that the people dying today were infected weeks ago.

[TC Talks]

We aren't done folks, deaths jumped 204 today. And fact our deaths are so low means stay in place is working.

I have a feeling that the people dying today were infected weeks ago.

We measure the Flu over 12 months, we have been in this for 4 weeks. Not exactly an apples to apples comparison.

[km1125]

We aren't done folks, deaths jumped 204 today. And fact our deaths are so low means stay in place is working.

Last year half of those would have been attributed to the flu or pneumonia, but they still would have died.

[TC Talks]

We aren't done folks, deaths jumped 204 today. And fact our deaths are so low means stay in place is working.

Last year half of those would have been attributed to the flu or pneumonia, but they still would have died.

This isn't last year. You haven't figured this out?

[km1125]

We aren't done folks, deaths jumped 204 today. And fact our deaths are so low means stay in place is working.

Last year half of those would have been attributed to the flu or pneumonia, but they still would have died.

This isn't last year. You haven't figured this out?

Maybe I have to spell it out for you. Flue and pneumonia deaths miraculously dropped to just about zero this year, when all other years they gradually dropped down as the season ended. This year all those deaths are attributed to Covid-19, whether that was really the cause or not.