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Tobacco prohibition

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bmw
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Tobacco prohibition

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Good idea, or government overreach?

Denmark is considering banning the sale of all tobacco products to any and all people born after the year 2010.

https://www.news24.com/news24/World/New ... s-20220315

Apparently New Zealand has already announced they intend to do something similar.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/new- ... s-n1285650

Just more nanny state nonsense, IMO. What's next? McDonalds?
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bmw wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:06 pm Good idea, or government overreach?

Denmark is considering banning the sale of all tobacco products to any and all people born after the year 2010.

https://www.news24.com/news24/World/New ... s-20220315

Apparently New Zealand has already announced they intend to do something similar.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/new- ... s-n1285650

Just more nanny state nonsense, IMO. What's next? McDonalds?
until the farts of the morbidly obese begin to cause heart attacks your argument is invalid :lol:

really though, i think that most states have reached a decent middle ground, but considering the absolute damage second hand smoke does to families, I don't feel inclined to defend smokers. Like a kid who has a chain-smoking parent will get exposed to it for almost 2 decades as their body grows. I grew up around it and it wasn't good.

Basically, it seems like overreach, but all cigarettes do is cause harm.
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Growing up, my parents were both smokers. It didn't bother me at all. When I was in high school I started smoking just to be like the other guys. But the other guys all laughed at me. Said I smoked like a girl. So I gave it up.

Later on, during the final years of my career, I worked in an office where I was the only non-smoker. The second hand smoke wasn't a health concern with me. It was just disgusting. Every day, as soon as I got home, I had to get out of my clothes and take a shower. My wife would make me leave my discarded clothing in the garage over night so as not to smell up the house. Smoking is gross.
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Turkeytop wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:07 pm Growing up, my parents were both smokers. It didn't bother me at all. When I was in high school I started smoking just to be like the other guys. But the other guys all laughed at me. Said I smoked like a girl. So I gave it up.

Later on, during the final years of my career, I worked in an office where I was the only non-smoker. The second hand smoke wasn't a health concern with me. It was just disgusting. Every day, as soon as I got home, I had to get out of my clothes and take a shower. My wife would make me leave my discarded clothing in the garage over night so as not to smell up the house. Smoking is gross.
Why anyone would smoke when drinking beer is so much better is an unsolvable mystery.
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The US would not get rid of tobacco sales, as the taxes and income help keep those states going, that grow it.

Yes, it is a gross habit. I also smoked. As Ron Sobzak (WRQN-FM and Hollywood Casino) told me, once you quit, you hate the smell. Very true. But then again, he worked in a place for years, where smoke was inside the work building.
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Re: Tobacco prohibition

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Not only is smoking gross, it's a waste of time. When I was working, I often had to attend meetings outside my own workplace. Meetings that should have lasted an hour would stretch out to two or three hours, because we had to keep breaking so the smokers could go outside
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I really don't care if people smoke because it doesn't affect me as long as it is banned in public for the indoors. Now, being an anti vaxxer and being in public, that affects me, especially if the community transmission is high.
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MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:42 pm Now, being an anti vaxxer and being in public, that affects me, especially if the community transmission is high.
How so? Does being vaccinated prevent a person from spreading Covid?
New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.
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MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:42 pm I really don't care if people smoke because it doesn't affect me as long as it is banned in public for the indoors.
To be clear, you actually did say that you DO care about people smoking and that IT DOES affect you. Just making sure you realize that. It does not matter when or where, if you did not care, you'd advocate for public smoking or simply not have brought that part up.
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TeddyBear wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:13 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:42 pm I really don't care if people smoke because it doesn't affect me as long as it is banned in public for the indoors.
To be clear, you actually did say that you DO care about people smoking and that IT DOES affect you. Just making sure you realize that. It does not matter when or where, if you did not care, you'd advocate for public smoking or simply not have brought that part up.
I meant I don’t care if they smoke in private.
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MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:02 pm
TeddyBear wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:13 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:42 pm I really don't care if people smoke because it doesn't affect me as long as it is banned in public for the indoors.
To be clear, you actually did say that you DO care about people smoking and that IT DOES affect you. Just making sure you realize that. It does not matter when or where, if you did not care, you'd advocate for public smoking or simply not have brought that part up.
I meant I don’t care if they smoke in private.
You do realize smoking IS NEVER private, right? 1st hand, 2nd hand and 3rd hand (on clothes, hair, walls, carpet (room, not crotch hair)and furnishings). Smoke cannot be controlled. This includes 420 smoke.
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TeddyBear wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:34 pm You do realize smoking IS NEVER private, right? 1st hand, 2nd hand and 3rd hand (on clothes, hair, walls, carpet (room, not crotch hair)and furnishings). Smoke cannot be controlled. This includes 420 smoke.
This is the most compelling reason. Cannibus can be eaten, McDonalds can be eaten, I can drink a tulip of bourbon and the person sitting next to me has no impact. I think banning tobacco it's a grand idea.
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TC Talks wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:46 am
TeddyBear wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:34 pm You do realize smoking IS NEVER private, right? 1st hand, 2nd hand and 3rd hand (on clothes, hair, walls, carpet (room, not crotch hair)and furnishings). Smoke cannot be controlled. This includes 420 smoke.
This is the most compelling reason. Cannibus can be eaten, McDonalds can be eaten, I can drink a tulip of bourbon and the person sitting next to me has no impact. I think banning tobacco it's a grand idea.
I agree to a point...

McDonalds- until you lose your relative to cancer or heart disease.

Bourbon and hash: Until you or a relative gets killed by altered driving, a shooting or physical abuse, due to loss of their control, or even cancer (as documented and warned by some US states). These 2 may be relatively safe, but still has health and safety risks documented. Do the research. We do not take into account of how these 2 products make mental health issues worse, which is also documented. Again, do your research. You'll find these 2 are not innocent at all. You can easily be affected by someone else across any room doing these 2.
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Again, smoking will directly impact my health and give me cancer. Me drinking or eating garbage will not have a direct impact, unless I decide to drive drunk, which most people do not.
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We should pass a law in this country: No smoking, violators will be shot.
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