The Assault Weapon Ban in the 90's worked

[FakeAndyStuart]

According to at least one research study...

https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/06/ ... ee839b3728

Even including 1999’s Columbine High School massacre – the deadliest mass shooting during the period of the ban – the 1994 to 2004 period saw lower average annual rates of both mass shootings and deaths resulting from such incidents than before the ban’s inception.

From 2004 onward:
The data shows an almost immediate – and steep – rise in mass shooting deaths in the years after the assault weapons ban expired in 2004.

Not sure that's the end of the story.. as that same study admits..

Cause or correlation?
It is also important to note that our analysis cannot definitively say that the assault weapons ban of 1994 caused a decrease in mass shootings, nor that its expiration in 2004 resulted in the growth of deadly incidents in the years since.

Many additional factors may contribute to the shifting frequency of these shootings, such as changes in domestic violence rates, political extremism, psychiatric illness, firearm availability and a surge in sales, and the recent rise in hate groups.

Nonetheless, according to our study, President Biden’s claim that the rate of mass shootings during the period of the assault weapons ban “went down” only for it to rise again after the law was allowed to expire in 2004 holds true.

And the attacks from the 2nd Amendment crowd start in 3...2...1...

[TC Talks]

The fact that these gun nuts don't legally have rpg's should tell us that we can regulate non-sport weapons.

[Deleted User 15783]

The fact that these gun nuts don't legally have rpg's should tell us that we can regulate non-sport weapons.

On one hand, I agree with you. Why even make weapons that are not used by sportsmen? Do you need even a semi-automatic weapon to hunt Yogi and Bambi? There was a time I didn't feel this way.

But I'm starting to get a "It couldn't hurt" attitude. More and more, I think it is time to take a look at what sort of guns the public really needs. I may of said this before. If the reason is so that less than 1 percent of hunters can shoot a bighorn sheep off a snow covered ledge from a mile away, maybe let's just let Rodney the Ram live his solitude life in peace.

On the other hand, I think if someone has it in their head to kill a bunch of people, they'll find a way. With just a pocket shooter and a back pocket full of clips, it wouldn't take but a minute to kill a dozen folks.

Plus, as far as I'm concerned, this is 'Merica. If it's being made, it can be got. You'll never convince me that's not true. Anyone who thinks differently is naive.

[bmw]

...our analysis cannot definitively say that the assault weapons ban of 1994 caused a decrease in mass shootings, nor that its expiration in 2004 resulted in the growth of deadly incidents in the years since.

Many additional factors may contribute to the shifting frequency of these shootings, such as changes in domestic violence rates, political extremism, psychiatric illness, firearm availability and a surge in sales, and the recent rise in hate groups.

So that makes your thread title quite misleading, eh? You're quite selective about when you use data correlation to imply causation (ie, here, but not when it comes to covid vaccinations and higher case rates).

[Bryce]

Munch on these numbers...

In any given year, for every person murdered with a rifle, there are 15 murdered with handguns, 1.7 with hands or fists, and 1.2 with blunt instruments. In fact, homicides with any sort of rifle represent a mere 3.2 percent of all homicides on average over the past decade.

That number would be even less if only what you people call "assault rifles" were counted


According to the NY TImes, From 2007 to 2017, “173 people have been killed in mass shootings in the United States involving AR-15s.”
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... pe=PAYWALL

That’s 173 over a span of a decade, with an average of 17 homicides per year. To put this in perspective, consider that at this rate it would take almost one-hundred years of mass shootings with AR-15s to produce the same number of homicide victims that knives and sharp objects produce in one year.

https://fee.org/articles/are-ar-15-rifl ... -data-say/
Focusing on what is causing the uptick in homicides and who and why people are committing them would be much more productive than putting all the attention on the weapon they choose.

[Bryce]

Violent night in Detroit as police respond to several shootings, including at graduation party
Officials say they have never seen a night like this before

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/loc ... ion-party/

Not one AR 15 used in this night of violence. Focus on the people not their weapon of choice.

[Turkeytop]

The US has the best equipped mass murderers in the world.

[Bryce]

The US has the best equipped mass murderers in the world.

Stalin, Putin and Castro were pretty well equipped.

[km1125]

The US has the best equipped mass murderers in the world.

Stalin, Putin and Castro were pretty well equipped.

Don't forget Maduro!!! With the food prices skyrocketing, empty shelves, and oil going through the roof, that might be a closer analogy!!

[TC Talks]

The US has the best equipped mass murderers in the world.

Stalin, Putin and Castro were pretty well equipped.

American citizens have killed other citizens more than the Communists ever did. Ever think capitalism is a preditory and dangerous construct for a society?

[bmw]

The US has the best equipped mass murderers in the world.

Stalin, Putin and Castro were pretty well equipped.

American citizens have killed other citizens more than the Communists ever did. Ever think capitalism is a preditory and dangerous construct for a society?

You've made countless exaggerations and outright lies in here, but this one takes the cake. Stalin alone was responsible for upwards of 20 million deaths. There haven't been that many citizen-on-citizen homicides during this country's entire existence.

[TC Talks]

Speaking of exaggerating.... this is from the same source as your statement.

Historians such as J. Arch Getty, Stephen G. Wheatcroft, and others, insist that the opening of the Soviet archives has vindicated the lower estimates put forth by the revisionist school.[69][70] In 2011, after assessing twenty years of historical research in Eastern European archives, American historian Timothy D. Snyder stated that Stalin deliberately killed about 6 million

[FakeAndyStuart]

...our analysis cannot definitively say that the assault weapons ban of 1994 caused a decrease in mass shootings, nor that its expiration in 2004 resulted in the growth of deadly incidents in the years since.

Many additional factors may contribute to the shifting frequency of these shootings, such as changes in domestic violence rates, political extremism, psychiatric illness, firearm availability and a surge in sales, and the recent rise in hate groups.

So that makes your thread title quite misleading, eh? You're quite selective about when you use data correlation to imply causation (ie, here, but not when it comes to covid vaccinations and higher case rates).

Thread titles are clickbait - yours and mine. I included the line you quoted, you didn't have to go dig it up. And perhaps a thread title that said "Biden was right about the 1994 Assault weapons ban.." would have been more specifically correct. We don't know cause/correlation here. But we do know that when they were banned, shootings went down - EVEN WHEN YOU INCLUDE COLUMBINE. That, to me, is worth further research.

[Matt]

A liberal's favorite tea is Dishones Tea.