Threat To Democracy?

[Bryce]

Manchin announced on "Fox News Sunday" that he will be a definitive "no" on voting for the BBB plan after lengthy debate.

After this announcement, The Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin wrote "If Manchin is no on both BBB and voting, Biden is done. Democracy is hanging by a thread. Hard to think of anyone more destructive."

MSNBC’s Mehdi Hasan tweeted out "What’s worse - that Manchin is killing the Biden legislative agenda, and perhaps the future of American democracy too"

Don't these two Media Bimbo's know that the The United States of America is a REPUBLIC? This is how things are supposed to work?

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Manchin announced on "Fox News Sunday" that he will be a definitive "no" on voting for the BBB plan after lengthy debate.

After this announcement, The Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin wrote "If Manchin is no on both BBB and voting, Biden is done. Democracy is hanging by a thread. Hard to think of anyone more destructive."

MSNBC’s Mehdi Hasan tweeted out "What’s worse - that Manchin is killing the Biden legislative agenda, and perhaps the future of American democracy too"

Don't these two Media Bimbo's know that the The United States of America is a REPUBLIC? This is how things are supposed to work?

A little much is made and weight is given to the Republic thing really. We are considered a western democracy. That’s not a debated thing. It sure wasn’t in the good old days you’d like to time warp to.

We are a representative democracy with a Republican form of government. Ultimately the people hold the power to choose their representatives and in theory the direction we go as a country. It’s also built on having majority governing coalitions and several of the founders spoke highly of representative democracy as a cure for the ails of ancient direct democracy. But they sure as hell acknowledged this was a democracy they were creating. This minority rule thing that the Republican Party is slowly turning the country into is most certainly not normal compared to the previous history of the country going back to the ratification of the constitution. It just isn’t.

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/616949/

[bmw]

This is precisely what happens when the fringe of your party becomes the mainstream of your party and aims for the moon without having the votes to get to the moon. The Senate majority has been 1-vote thin since the day Biden took office. The ambitiousness of your agenda needs to end where the 50th vote lies, and it has always been the case that the Dems were going to need Manchin's support. So I think they got what they had coming to them.

I wonder if the same idiots in the media thought that Democracy was "hanging by a thread" when the Republicans controlled everything yet failed to repeal Obamacare as they had campaigned on?

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This is precisely what happens when the fringe of your party becomes the mainstream of your party and aims for the moon without having the votes to get to the moon. The Senate majority has been 1-vote thin since the day Biden took office. The ambitiousness of your agenda needs to end where the 50th vote lies, and it has always been the case that the Dems were going to need Manchin's support. So I think they got what they had coming to them.

I wonder if the same idiots in the media thought that Democracy was "hanging by a thread" when the Republicans controlled everything yet failed to repeal Obamacare as they had campaigned on?

That’s really got nothing to do with the restrictive voting laws being passed. The two situations aren’t even comparable. Republicans don’t win on a level field so they are simply rewriting the rules in states they control to discourage Democrats from voting or underperform their actual standing in the state. That IS ABSOLUTELY the decline and fall of the system we’ve had since we started. That system has always been based on the loser losing gracefully and changing their tactics to win later. Instead of doing that Republicans have turned their party into a cult that pushes impure members to the curb if they don’t 1000% adhere to the party line. They aren’t interested in winning majorities and passing laws to better society anymore. It’s all about cutting taxes and paying lip service to everything else that doesn’t actually matter to the party one bit except a few scraps to keep the activists and true believers happy. There’s a reason they have promised the same shit for 50 years and it never happens.

If anything there are too many kinds of Democrats by contrast. Our tent is way too big. So nobody can fully agree on anything. That’s what happened here.

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"restrictive voting laws"

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"restrictive voting laws"

So a county with few people and 1 drop box and a county that has 4.5 million people and one drop box is fair and logical and just the way it should be? No problem there? Maybe it’s a really big box. That must be it.

The Republicans in Texas reduced the number of drop boxes in the county that includes Dallas down to 1 in 2020 for a reason. It wasn’t to help anybody. It was to try to make it odious to vote early and cause some to just not vote. The same with some ID locations being open ONLY on the fourth Thursday of the month or something… it happens 3 or 4 times A YEAR. So anybody who might need an ID will have a harder time getting one. If anybody cheats it’s happening on the Republican side because they cannot win straight up. So why adopt new ideas? That’s so 20th century. We’ll just change the rules in a way that disproportionately effects the other side and lowers their vote totals.