How Biden will support innovation

[TC Talks]

Here's the future boys and it's 0 to 60 in under 2 seconds.

G.M.’s $20 billion onslaught of 20 new E.V.s will start with a muscular commando: a reborn GMC Hummer pickup in late 2021, with up to 1,000 horsepower and a roughly 350-mile driving range. Hummer, that former hard-drinking social pariah, will be rehabilitated to ease into any Silicon Valley party. Electrics from Cadillac, Chevrolet and Buick will follow.

Ken Morris, G.M.’s vice president for electric and autonomous cars, said the company intended to sell the overall E.V. experience: reduced ownership costs and no gas stations. Quieter, roomier cabins. Efficiency and performance: not just going fast, but slowing down with regenerative braking.

“We absolutely believe in climate change, and that’s why we’re doing it,” Mr. Morris said. “But the performance is there, and we’d be silly not to tout it.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/29/busi ... rimac.html

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How are you going to deal with the needed extra electricity to charge all these electric vehicles? Windmills and solar are not stable enough 24/7 and the electric grid needs to be rebuilt from end to end. Also road taxes assessed on EV's.

Or are you planning on plugging into your butt?

[bmw]

Or are you planning on plugging into your butt?

Wind energy?

[Bryce]

California has brown outs now. Gonna build some coal fired plants are ya?

[TC Talks]

How are you going to deal with the needed extra electricity to charge all these electric vehicles? Windmills and solar are not stable enough 24/7 and the electric grid needs to be rebuilt from end to end. Also road taxes assessed on EV's.

Or are you planning on plugging into your butt?

Remember all those jobs Biden was promising? The way I read this you don't have faith in America.

[TC Talks]

California has brown outs now. Gonna build some coal fired plants are ya?

maybe it's time we go to state owned power generation. It's a clear example of Private industry not getting the job done.

[bmw]

Or are you planning on plugging into your butt?

California has brown outs now.

These 2 posts seem somehow related.

[Bryce]

Or are you planning on plugging into your butt?

California has brown outs now.

These 2 posts seem somehow related.

[km1125]

Not sure how the title relates to the OP. GM's move had NOTHING to do with Biden, and Biden didn't have ANYTHING do do with GM's launch of the E-Hummer. (Hmmm. E-Hummer...maybe Harris had something to do with it?? )

Anywho.... I suppose Biden could IMPORT the electricity from CHINA from all their coal plants, and put Hunter in charge of that. They could load it on all those trains that AOC is going to use to cross the oceans instead of airliners and ship it in "bulk" back to the USA.

Most would get probably taken up when it hits the shore in CA though.

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Anybody ever heard of storing electricity?!?

That’s how you compensate for the wind not blowing or a cloudy day.

[km1125]

Anybody ever heard of storing electricity?!?

That’s how you compensate for the wind not blowing or a cloudy day.

How do you store A.C. power?

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How do you store A.C. power?

DTE does. On the west side of the state, they have a big reservoir. They use electricity to fill it up. And generate electricity draining it.

[km1125]

How do you store A.C. power?

DTE does. On the west side of the state, they have a big reservoir. They use electricity to fill it up. And generate electricity draining it.

They're not storing electricity, they're storing water. How much efficiency do you lose pumping that water up and then regenerating it into electricity again?

[Deleted User 14896]

How do you store A.C. power?

DTE does. On the west side of the state, they have a big reservoir. They use electricity to fill it up. And generate electricity draining it.

They're not storing electricity, they're storing water. How much efficiency do you lose pumping that water up and then regenerating it into electricity again?

Well, however you look at it, they are still storing A.C. power. The purpose of the whole setup is to store A.C power. Just like the purpose of a windmill or a coal fired power plant.
Is the wind alternating current? Is coal alternating current? No. Kind of a weird thinking response.

If you want to bring efficiency into the conversation, wind turbines are actually less efficient than coal fired generators.
And wind turbines actually cost the power plant more to run than coal fired generators.
Wind and solar are both "feel good" technologies that cost both the electric company and the consumer more that fossil fuel to generate electricity with.

[km1125]

That's why you HAVE to bring efficiency into the equation when you're talking about storing power. If wind or solar can't generate when folks need the power, then it needs to be stored somehow and that generation source takes the 'hit' on efficiency in doing so.