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Gun rights rally, no violence

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Re: Gun rights rally, no violence

Post by Rate This » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:36 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:21 pm
I need an explanation why so many of the folks who were passionate about gun rights showed up in "costume".
I'm not critiquing what they stand for.
But was the paratrooper, dressed to the hilt show really necessary?
Kind of takes the "take me seriously" off the table, if you ask me anyway.
Those people are presumably ready to roll into battle at the drop of a hat if their rights are supposedly infringed...



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Re: Gun rights rally, no violence

Post by Rate This » Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:41 pm

lovinlife101 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:09 pm
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:36 pm
Mike Oxlong wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:21 pm
I need an explanation why so many of the folks who were passionate about gun rights showed up in "costume".
I'm not critiquing what they stand for.
But was the paratrooper, dressed to the hilt show really necessary?
Kind of takes the "take me seriously" off the table, if you ask me anyway.
Those people are presumably ready to roll into battle at the drop of a hat if their rights are supposedly infringed...
I hope so!

That’s literally what happened during the Revolutionary War.
That would be grossly out of proportion with some benign rules... how do those rules even harm anyone?

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Re: Gun rights rally, no violence

Post by Rate This » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:55 pm

lovinlife101 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:10 pm
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:41 pm
lovinlife101 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:09 pm
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:36 pm
Mike Oxlong wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:21 pm
I need an explanation why so many of the folks who were passionate about gun rights showed up in "costume".
I'm not critiquing what they stand for.
But was the paratrooper, dressed to the hilt show really necessary?
Kind of takes the "take me seriously" off the table, if you ask me anyway.
Those people are presumably ready to roll into battle at the drop of a hat if their rights are supposedly infringed...
I hope so!

That’s literally what happened during the Revolutionary War.
That would be grossly out of proportion with some benign rules... how do those rules even harm anyone?
Any restriction on the second amendment is just as unconstitutional as any restriction on the first amendment.

Your threshold for whether a law should be made is based on whether the rule “hurts” someone? Glad you weren’t at the constitutional convention. You would have sided with England.
Infringement of The right to bear arms is “you may not have guns, sorry”.

A law to limit the number purchased in a month or to take them away from those who may imminently use them to kill people don’t meet that threshold.

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Re: Gun rights rally, no violence

Post by bmw » Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:32 pm

craig11152 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:36 am
Most all demonstrations/rallys/protests are peaceful until counter protesters decide to make their point at the same time and location in an attempt to disrupt the free speech of those they oppose.
The one exception is far left protests occasionally involve destroying cars and store fronts without any "help" from counter protesters.
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Re: Gun rights rally, no violence

Post by Rate This » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:44 am

lovinlife101 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:52 am
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:55 pm
lovinlife101 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:10 pm
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:41 pm
lovinlife101 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:09 pm
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:36 pm
Mike Oxlong wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:21 pm
I need an explanation why so many of the folks who were passionate about gun rights showed up in "costume".
I'm not critiquing what they stand for.
But was the paratrooper, dressed to the hilt show really necessary?
Kind of takes the "take me seriously" off the table, if you ask me anyway.
Those people are presumably ready to roll into battle at the drop of a hat if their rights are supposedly infringed...
I hope so!

That’s literally what happened during the Revolutionary War.
That would be grossly out of proportion with some benign rules... how do those rules even harm anyone?
Any restriction on the second amendment is just as unconstitutional as any restriction on the first amendment.

Your threshold for whether a law should be made is based on whether the rule “hurts” someone? Glad you weren’t at the constitutional convention. You would have sided with England.
Infringement of The right to bear arms is “you may not have guns, sorry”.

A law to limit the number purchased in a month or to take them away from those who may imminently use them to kill people don’t meet that threshold.
100% wrong.

The constitution protects people’s right to bear arms from being “infringed.” Infringement is a much lesser threshold than “regulated, “limited,” or “banned.”

Infringement is NOT taking away all guns like you say. It’s any limit on the right to have any kind and as many as you decide.

Your logic would say that infringement on free speech would be “you can’t speak at all.” Rather, limiting any speech is a violation of the first amendment just like limiting any guns is a violation of the second amendment.

Just because you don’t like something or are scared of it doesn’t justify limiting or banning it for others.
If I remember right two courts (one might have been SCOTUS) upheld Virginia’s state capital grounds Gun ban before the rally so it’s not nearly as black and white as you want it to be.

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Re: Gun rights rally, no violence

Post by Rate This » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:43 am

lovinlife101 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:03 am
Rate This wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:44 am
lovinlife101 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:52 am
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:55 pm
lovinlife101 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:10 pm
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:41 pm
lovinlife101 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:09 pm
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:36 pm
Mike Oxlong wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:21 pm
I need an explanation why so many of the folks who were passionate about gun rights showed up in "costume".
I'm not critiquing what they stand for.
But was the paratrooper, dressed to the hilt show really necessary?
Kind of takes the "take me seriously" off the table, if you ask me anyway.
Those people are presumably ready to roll into battle at the drop of a hat if their rights are supposedly infringed...
I hope so!

That’s literally what happened during the Revolutionary War.
That would be grossly out of proportion with some benign rules... how do those rules even harm anyone?
Any restriction on the second amendment is just as unconstitutional as any restriction on the first amendment.

Your threshold for whether a law should be made is based on whether the rule “hurts” someone? Glad you weren’t at the constitutional convention. You would have sided with England.
Infringement of The right to bear arms is “you may not have guns, sorry”.

A law to limit the number purchased in a month or to take them away from those who may imminently use them to kill people don’t meet that threshold.
100% wrong.

The constitution protects people’s right to bear arms from being “infringed.” Infringement is a much lesser threshold than “regulated, “limited,” or “banned.”

Infringement is NOT taking away all guns like you say. It’s any limit on the right to have any kind and as many as you decide.

Your logic would say that infringement on free speech would be “you can’t speak at all.” Rather, limiting any speech is a violation of the first amendment just like limiting any guns is a violation of the second amendment.

Just because you don’t like something or are scared of it doesn’t justify limiting or banning it for others.
If I remember right two courts (one might have been SCOTUS) upheld Virginia’s state capital grounds Gun ban before the rally so it’s not nearly as black and white as you want it to be.
Any reason for capitalizing “Gun”?
Spell check is a funny thing... I probably tapped the capitalize and didn’t catch it... oh well.

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Re: Gun rights rally, no violence

Post by Rate This » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:56 am

lovinlife101 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:51 am
Rate This wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:43 am
lovinlife101 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:03 am
Rate This wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:44 am
lovinlife101 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:52 am
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:55 pm
lovinlife101 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:10 pm
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:41 pm
lovinlife101 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:09 pm
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:36 pm
Mike Oxlong wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:21 pm
I need an explanation why so many of the folks who were passionate about gun rights showed up in "costume".
I'm not critiquing what they stand for.
But was the paratrooper, dressed to the hilt show really necessary?
Kind of takes the "take me seriously" off the table, if you ask me anyway.
Those people are presumably ready to roll into battle at the drop of a hat if their rights are supposedly infringed...
I hope so!

That’s literally what happened during the Revolutionary War.
That would be grossly out of proportion with some benign rules... how do those rules even harm anyone?
Any restriction on the second amendment is just as unconstitutional as any restriction on the first amendment.

Your threshold for whether a law should be made is based on whether the rule “hurts” someone? Glad you weren’t at the constitutional convention. You would have sided with England.
Infringement of The right to bear arms is “you may not have guns, sorry”.

A law to limit the number purchased in a month or to take them away from those who may imminently use them to kill people don’t meet that threshold.
100% wrong.

The constitution protects people’s right to bear arms from being “infringed.” Infringement is a much lesser threshold than “regulated, “limited,” or “banned.”

Infringement is NOT taking away all guns like you say. It’s any limit on the right to have any kind and as many as you decide.

Your logic would say that infringement on free speech would be “you can’t speak at all.” Rather, limiting any speech is a violation of the first amendment just like limiting any guns is a violation of the second amendment.

Just because you don’t like something or are scared of it doesn’t justify limiting or banning it for others.
If I remember right two courts (one might have been SCOTUS) upheld Virginia’s state capital grounds Gun ban before the rally so it’s not nearly as black and white as you want it to be.
Any reason for capitalizing “Gun”?
Spell check is a funny thing... I probably tapped the capitalize and didn’t catch it... oh well.
Don’t worry. You’re only wrong about words, thoughts, ideas, beliefs, and life. No big deal.
You are deeply troubled.

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Re: Gun rights rally, no violence

Post by Rate This » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:01 pm

I could literally take any position and simply get the opposite response...

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