I can't believe they'd commit to a rebuild and then trade valuable high draft picks for second-tier veterans; it would be too Lionesque. If they want veterans they'll always be available after roster cut-downs.
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Stafford traded to the Rams for Goff + a bunch of draft picks
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Re: Stafford traded to the Rams for Goff + a bunch of draft picks
You be thinking of Dodger ace, Clayton Kershaw.MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:21 pmGreat point.
Stafford has had a vacation home in southern California for a while, from what I understand. He's also a schoolmate and longtime friend of an obscure Dodgers starting pitcher. (What's that dude's name again? LOL)
He and Kelly are probably thrilled to be going to L.A. He will quickly beome a pariah, though, if he doesn't win out there.
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Re: Stafford traded to the Rams for Goff + a bunch of draft picks
Now that facts have emerged regarding competing offers for Stafford, I am feeling much better about this deal.
No one else to the best of my knowledge offered two first round picks.
Carolina's offer of the no. 8 overall pick this year, while formidable, would have offered the Lions no crutch if the pick turned out to be a dud.
Washington offered a 1st round pick (only 19 overall, I believe) for this year plus a later round pick. You might not get a franchise guy at 19, and again, not much to fall back on.
The extra 1st round pick was clearly the premium for the Lions swallowing Goff's contract. Getting a 3rd round pick is also nothing to sneeze at, either!
So, I definitely like the deal now given the options that were on the table and knowing what I now know regarding the guaranteed money portion of the Goff contract.
I do still fear this coach and front office won't ditch Goff at the right time should his performance prove unimpressive. However, that issue is independent of evaluating the deal itself.
No one else to the best of my knowledge offered two first round picks.
Carolina's offer of the no. 8 overall pick this year, while formidable, would have offered the Lions no crutch if the pick turned out to be a dud.
Washington offered a 1st round pick (only 19 overall, I believe) for this year plus a later round pick. You might not get a franchise guy at 19, and again, not much to fall back on.
The extra 1st round pick was clearly the premium for the Lions swallowing Goff's contract. Getting a 3rd round pick is also nothing to sneeze at, either!
So, I definitely like the deal now given the options that were on the table and knowing what I now know regarding the guaranteed money portion of the Goff contract.
I do still fear this coach and front office won't ditch Goff at the right time should his performance prove unimpressive. However, that issue is independent of evaluating the deal itself.
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Re: Stafford traded to the Rams for Goff + a bunch of draft picks
Thinking of all the teams who lost out in the Stafford bidding who still have QB issues to address, it might allow the Lions to either trade down in the draft should one of the QBs drop to #7; or should there be an interest in Goff, to accumulate even more draft capital. The latter scenario is unlikely considering his contract and recent performance, but ya never know. Personally, I wouldn't want the Lions to reach for a QB in the draft, seeing if the veteran Goff can handle the load with a change in venue and new coaching staff.
If the Rams catch fire with Stafford those picks would be in the late 20s or 30s; if not and the Rams implode in the next two years....MWmetalhead wrote:No one else to the best of my knowledge offered two first round picks.
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Re: Stafford traded to the Rams for Goff + a bunch of draft picks
We definitely need to root for the Rams to have a couple horrible seasons! (Sorry, Stafford.)
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Re: Stafford traded to the Rams for Goff + a bunch of draft picks
At least it will answer the question of whether or not Stafford is the "fraud" that the likes of Fuzzpower make him out to be.
I've been watching YouTube highlights of Goff. One thing is certain, he doesn't throw nearly the clean spirals as does Stafford. He seems to be most adept at the rollout pass out of play-action to intermediate receivers.
I've been watching YouTube highlights of Goff. One thing is certain, he doesn't throw nearly the clean spirals as does Stafford. He seems to be most adept at the rollout pass out of play-action to intermediate receivers.
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I think Goff stinks. If he has a clean pocket and an open receiver, he can hit him. But he usually locks in on his first read, and if he is pressured, will make the wrong decision more often than not.moldyoldie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:37 amAt least it will answer the question of whether or not Stafford is the "fraud" that the likes of Fuzzpower make him out to be.
I've been watching YouTube highlights of Goff. One thing is certain, he doesn't throw nearly the clean spirals as does Stafford. He seems to be most adept at the rollout pass out of play-action to intermediate receivers.
I still like the trade very much. We will stink next year and probably be lousy the year after that, but hopefully this will pay off. And I'm happy for Stafford. Too good of a player to be wasted on the Lie-downs.
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Re: Stafford traded to the Rams for Goff + a bunch of draft picks
Horror of horrors -- if either Stafford or Goff don't pass their physical thus possibly negating the trade before it becomes official in March.
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Re: Stafford traded to the Rams for Goff + a bunch of draft picks
Naturally, I was overjoyed when Stafford was sent out. I’m not a Goff fan, but he’s younger and has actually won a playoff game. The draft picks are a crapshoot.
The Rams play in a tough division.
The Rams play in a tough division.
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I watched a repeat of an early season game between the Rams and Bills on NFL Network yesterday. Goff brought the Rams back from 20+ down in the second half and looked darn good doing it. He still has "something".
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