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Re: Detroit Tigers 2023

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:39 am
by moldyoldie
MWmetalhead wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:36 pm
It sounds like his family didn't want to move clear across the country (or at least be without their father, who certainly would have to move clear across the country) and then potentially have to move a second time once the current season concludes:

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sport ... 513031007/

Kudos to him for putting his family first.
His lengthy absence last season was ostensibly to save his marriage. Yes, kudos.

Re: Detroit Tigers 2023

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:34 am
by MichMash
I feel like Scott Harris was in a no-win situation regarding E-Rod. There were three potential scenarios for E-Rod, and none of them were optimal:

1) Keep E-Rod and get nothing for him (knowing that he's probably opting out after this season barring a total implosion);
2) Try to trade him to a team on E-Rod's no-trade list, running the risk of the player vetoing the trade (which is what happened); or
3) Trade the player elsewhere just for the sake of trading him, trying to get some younger assets for a guy who's leaving (and we'd all complain that Harris got fleeced because he had to take a lesser deal just to send him out of town).

So we're left hoping E-Rod doesn't opt out, and he still remains a serviceable starter for at least another couple years (for which Harris said "sign me up for that"). And if the Tigers continue to struggle, maybe he can become trade bait again in '24 or '25.

Re: Detroit Tigers 2023

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:49 pm
by Bobbert
MichMash wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:34 am
I feel like Scott Harris was in a no-win situation regarding E-Rod. There were three potential scenarios for E-Rod, and none of them were optimal:

1) Keep E-Rod and get nothing for him (knowing that he's probably opting out after this season barring a total implosion);
2) Try to trade him to a team on E-Rod's no-trade list, running the risk of the player vetoing the trade (which is what happened); or
3) Trade the player elsewhere just for the sake of trading him, trying to get some younger assets for a guy who's leaving (and we'd all complain that Harris got fleeced because he had to take a lesser deal just to send him out of town).

So we're left hoping E-Rod doesn't opt out, and he still remains a serviceable starter for at least another couple years (for which Harris said "sign me up for that"). And if the Tigers continue to struggle, maybe he can become trade bait again in '24 or '25.
Detroit's becoming the poster child for difficult baseball contracts.

First, Cabrera's contract, which should have ended long ago and which has seriously hurt the development of this team.

Now, E-Rod's contract, with its load of conditions.

Re: Detroit Tigers 2023

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:16 pm
by MWmetalhead
It is now known he would've accepted a trade to the Dodgers had they extended his current contract through 2024 for $20 million. Remarkably, they didn't bite, which is bizarre if the $20 million number is accurate.

Re: Detroit Tigers 2023

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:01 pm
by Realist
E Rod stated last week that he liked Detroit and what they did for him in displaying patience with him with the family issues. Let’s see if he means that at the end of the season

Re: Detroit Tigers 2023

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:50 pm
by SD45
Roys 8. Tigers 0. Detroit had 3 hits.

Re: Detroit Tigers 2023

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:14 pm
by Rate This
I had a dream we had 75 wins and a playoff spot a couple days ago… guess not.

Re: Detroit Tigers 2023

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:31 pm
by SoupySez
Wentz pitching vs the Twins. Gives up 4 runs in the first, 3 in the second, and 1 in the third. Guaranteed loss when he pitches. That is if you call it pitching.

Re: Detroit Tigers 2023

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:43 pm
by Realist
SoupySez wrote:
Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:31 pm
Wentz pitching vs the Twins. Gives up 4 runs in the first, 3 in the second, and 1 in the third. Guaranteed loss when he pitches. That is if you call it pitching.
He was pitching like it was batting practice. Pathetic

Re: Detroit Tigers 2023

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:09 pm
by SD45
Wentz - 3 Innings, 10 hits, 8 earned runs, 2 strikeouts, 1 walk.

Tigers lost 9-3. Detroit had a three-run homer in the 9th.

Detroit is now 49-63, 10 games behind Minnesota.

3-7 in their last 10 games.

Re: Detroit Tigers 2023

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:19 pm
by moldyoldie
Looks like Torkelson has suddenly discovered his power stroke. :smokin

Re: Detroit Tigers 2023

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 2:36 pm
by MotorCityRadioFreak
MichMash wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:34 am
I feel like Scott Harris was in a no-win situation regarding E-Rod. There were three potential scenarios for E-Rod, and none of them were optimal:

1) Keep E-Rod and get nothing for him (knowing that he's probably opting out after this season barring a total implosion);
2) Try to trade him to a team on E-Rod's no-trade list, running the risk of the player vetoing the trade (which is what happened); or
3) Trade the player elsewhere just for the sake of trading him, trying to get some younger assets for a guy who's leaving (and we'd all complain that Harris got fleeced because he had to take a lesser deal just to send him out of town).

So we're left hoping E-Rod doesn't opt out, and he still remains a serviceable starter for at least another couple years (for which Harris said "sign me up for that"). And if the Tigers continue to struggle, maybe he can become trade bait again in '24 or '25.
He had no backups to the trade proposed that E Rod declined due to the no trade clause. A good GM has a plan B.

Re: Detroit Tigers 2023

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 10:24 pm
by paul8539
Did anybody notice that the pitcher that the Tigers traded away pitched a no-hitter in his first appearance with his new club? What did they get for him, just a minor leaguer?

Re: Detroit Tigers 2023

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:06 am
by moldyoldie
paul8539 wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2023 10:24 pm
Did anybody notice that the pitcher that the Tigers traded away pitched a no-hitter in his first appearance with his new club? What did they get for him, just a minor leaguer?
Michael Lorenzen is on an expiring contract, in essence a half-season rental for whatever team traded for him. It was actually his second appearance for the Phillies, but his first at home. It must've been quite the thrill for Phillies fans and him alike! :D

Note that not since his rookie season in 2015 and until this season, Lorenzen hadn't pitched over 100 innings. He may indeed be a late bloomer at 31.

Re: Detroit Tigers 2023

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:01 pm
by SD45
Eric Hasse has been DFA.

Carson Kelly, who was released by Arizona is his replacement.