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Re: MSU President apologizes for spartan thug criminal assaults

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:13 pm
by Robert Faygo
Did either of you actually bother to read the Bacon blog piece?

To me, it reads as criticism of the B1G office and their lack of any action to close this stupidity out more than anything else.
It’s not clear what the Big Ten is doing with this information, if anything. Obviously, these and other eye-witness accounts should be including in the report. Likewise, if the investigators found Michigan players had taunted the Spartans, and if they engaged in any physical altercations, that should be included too. In other words, the investigators should do an honest job of pursuing the truth wherever it leads, without fear or favor – but they should do it sooner than later.

Dragging this out is not just dumb public relations, turning a one-week story into a two week-story and beyond for no good reason I can see. More importantly it’s unfair to everyone involved: the witnesses who’ve had the courage to come forward, the victims, and the suspended players who are still waiting to hear how long their suspensions are going to be – something that should have been decided long ago.
The letters from the sideline workers he received and quoted? That's just anecdotal info that Bacon uses as evidence to support his position that the B1G office has unnecessarily been dragging its feet.

Re: MSU President apologizes for spartan thug criminal assaults

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:27 pm
by Matt
Robert Faygo wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:13 pm Did either of you actually bother to read the Bacon blog piece?

To me, it reads as criticism of the B1G office and their lack of any action to close this stupidity out more than anything else.
It’s not clear what the Big Ten is doing with this information, if anything. Obviously, these and other eye-witness accounts should be including in the report. Likewise, if the investigators found Michigan players had taunted the Spartans, and if they engaged in any physical altercations, that should be included too. In other words, the investigators should do an honest job of pursuing the truth wherever it leads, without fear or favor – but they should do it sooner than later.

Dragging this out is not just dumb public relations, turning a one-week story into a two week-story and beyond for no good reason I can see. More importantly it’s unfair to everyone involved: the witnesses who’ve had the courage to come forward, the victims, and the suspended players who are still waiting to hear how long their suspensions are going to be – something that should have been decided long ago.
The letters from the sideline workers he received and quoted? That's just anecdotal info that Bacon uses as evidence to support his position that the B1G office has unnecessarily been dragging its feet.
I did read it. I also saw MeLLLLL yelling "FUCK YOU" at refs twice during the game with no repercussions. JUB clearly stated that he didn't want to revisit this, but where there is smoke, there is fire. We very likely will be seeing criminal charges for msu players soon, and part of the problem is the program culture in el.

Re: MSU President apologizes for spartan thug criminal assaults

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:38 pm
by Robert Faygo
If the refs can handle being f-bombed, I think the fans should be able to deal with it too. I mean really ... unless you have to work with these sometimes overbearing personalities, why would you care?

If Tucker is not the right fit for MSU, it will (eventually) be taken care of. Just like it was for Rodriguez at Michigan whose staff were the absolute kings of foul / inappropriate language.

Re: MSU President apologizes for spartan thug criminal assaults

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:48 pm
by Honeyman
But it's perfectly permissible for a Michigan basketball coach to yell, "I'm gonna fucking kill you!" to an opposing head coach.....before he slugs an assistant.

And that's not "thug behavior"

Re: MSU President apologizes for spartan thug criminal assaults

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:59 pm
by Matt
Honeyman wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:48 pm But it's perfectly permissible for a Michigan basketball coach to yell, "I'm gonna fucking kill you!" to an opposing head coach.....before he slugs an assistant.

And that's not "thug behavior"
Juwan and Greg Gard have reconciled. Juwan let his emotions get the best of him, but he had a price to pay. What happened in that game has very little to do with your lawless football program.

Re: MSU President apologizes for spartan thug criminal assaults

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:02 pm
by Honeyman
Matt wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:59 pm
Honeyman wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:48 pm But it's perfectly permissible for a Michigan basketball coach to yell, "I'm gonna fucking kill you!" to an opposing head coach.....before he slugs an assistant.

And that's not "thug behavior"
Juwan and Greg Gard have reconciled. Juwan let his emotions get the best of him, but he had a price to pay. What happened in that game has very little to do with your lawless football program.
So if it's a Michigan guy, he "let's his emotions get the best of him", and if it's an MSU guy, it's "lawless".

You should really say these things out loud before you post them and make a complete fool of yourself.

Re: MSU President apologizes for spartan thug criminal assaults

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:12 pm
by Matt
Honeyman wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:02 pm
Matt wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:59 pm
Honeyman wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:48 pm But it's perfectly permissible for a Michigan basketball coach to yell, "I'm gonna fucking kill you!" to an opposing head coach.....before he slugs an assistant.

And that's not "thug behavior"
Juwan and Greg Gard have reconciled. Juwan let his emotions get the best of him, but he had a price to pay. What happened in that game has very little to do with your lawless football program.
So if it's a Michigan guy, he "let's his emotions get the best of him", and if it's an MSU guy, it's "lawless".

You should really say these things out loud before you post them and make a complete fool of yourself.
It goes back years with your program, from Dantonio mocking a college kids height, to playing Glenn Winston after he was released from jail, to letting Will Gholston try to break Denard's neck, etc. The culture there is poison and has been for a decade and a half.

Re: MSU President apologizes for spartan thug criminal assaults

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:16 pm
by Honeyman
Matt wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:12 pm
Honeyman wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:02 pm
Matt wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:59 pm
Honeyman wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:48 pm But it's perfectly permissible for a Michigan basketball coach to yell, "I'm gonna fucking kill you!" to an opposing head coach.....before he slugs an assistant.

And that's not "thug behavior"
Juwan and Greg Gard have reconciled. Juwan let his emotions get the best of him, but he had a price to pay. What happened in that game has very little to do with your lawless football program.
So if it's a Michigan guy, he "let's his emotions get the best of him", and if it's an MSU guy, it's "lawless".

You should really say these things out loud before you post them and make a complete fool of yourself.
It goes back years with your program, from Dantonio mocking a college kids height, to playing Glenn Winston after he was released from jail, to letting Will Gholston try to break Denard's neck, etc. The culture there is poison and has been for a decade and a half.
Brendan Gibbons ring a bell?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... n/5810011/

Taylor Lewan?
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr- ... ncaaf.html

How about this "thug"?: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/co ... walker-iii

Re: MSU President apologizes for spartan thug criminal assaults

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:27 pm
by Robert Faygo
Both of you should just post your penis lengths in this thread to save everyone some time.

:rollin

Re: MSU President apologizes for spartan thug criminal assaults

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:30 pm
by Honeyman
Robert Faygo wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:27 pm Both of you should just post your penis lengths in this thread to save everyone some time.

:rollin
:lol: I swear to God I had a three inch post for Matt earlier and deleted it.

Re: MSU President apologizes for spartan thug criminal assaults

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:32 pm
by Robert Faygo
LMAO - love it!

Re: MSU President apologizes for spartan thug criminal assaults

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:33 pm
by Matt
Honeyman wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:30 pm
Robert Faygo wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:27 pm Both of you should just post your penis lengths in this thread to save everyone some time.

:rollin
:lol: I swear to God I had a three inch post for Matt earlier and deleted it.
I mean, are we trying to draw in MCRF?

Re: MSU President apologizes for spartan thug criminal assaults

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:10 am
by MasterB
I'm surprised that Big 10 hasn't come down with punishment yet on the MSU players or other findings in the tunnel.

Re: MSU President apologizes for spartan thug criminal assaults

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:01 am
by Matt
MasterB wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:10 am I'm surprised that Big 10 hasn't come down with punishment yet on the MSU players or other findings in the tunnel.
They're waiting on Washtenaw County.

Re: MSU President apologizes for spartan thug criminal assaults

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:49 am
by MotorCityRadioFreak
Matt wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:33 pm
Honeyman wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:30 pm
Robert Faygo wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:27 pm Both of you should just post your penis lengths in this thread to save everyone some time.

:rollin
:lol: I swear to God I had a three inch post for Matt earlier and deleted it.
I mean, are we trying to draw in MCRF?
After our conversations behind the scenes, I am disappointed to see that you have joined Bryce and others in making homophobic shit posts…