College football 2026

[MotorCityRadioFreak]

Jason Whitlock is a joke.

Have you watched the CBS breakdown I posted? Or are you just going to keep repeating talking points? Everyone except for Michigan haters have moved on. And if you also look back, I originally thought you were right. But the adult thing to do is look at the evidence and change your mind in this case.

And you know that I don’t defend everything this university does.

[Matt]

When the PRESIDENT of WMU goes out of his way to say the official decision was fine, the jig is up for Michigan haters:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... -last-play

When you quote Scott Paterno, you are acknowledging you've lost the argument.

[Honeyman]

[MWmetalhead]

From the NY Times article:

“The broadcast showed a different clock than what the reviewers saw in the review center,” Kavalhuna said. “If you look at those two, any objective person would see that they lead to completely different results.”

However, rules experts have added another layer to the discussion.

Fox rules expert Mike Pereira told The Athletic that replay crews are generally instructed to use the same television feed available to fans when discrepancies arise. Pereira said that standard is also used in the NFL and UFL.

The NCAA replay rulebook, however, appears less clear. According to The Athletic, the NCAA’s Instant Replay Case book does not specifically outline which clock should be considered authoritative when competing video feeds show different times.

Kavalhuna said that Big Ten officials explained the two clocks were out of sync, with the TV clock running a few tenths of a second fast.

Note: Mr. Kavalhuna is the WMU President.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/757093 ... -michigan/

Here's what I want to know - was the procedure used by the Big Ten review center consistent with standard operating procedure in such situations? Also, was the Michigan Stadium clock in sync with NBC, or was it in sync with the clock the Big Ten replay review center used?

At minimum, some process changes need to be considered. The most obvious one is to begin showing tenths of a second on the game clock near the end of the second quarter and near the end of the fourth quarter.

[Honeyman]

[Honeyman]

[Honeyman]

[bmw]

Here's what I want to know - was the procedure used by the Big Ten review center consistent with standard operating procedure in such situations? Also, was the Michigan Stadium clock in sync with NBC, or was it in sync with the clock the Big Ten replay review center used?

It is hard to find a definitive answer to this. All I was able to find came from a Yahoo article yesterday afternoon:

The stadium clock did appear to be in sync with NBC's clock. Both clocks were reset to nine seconds before the initial Hail Mary attempt, and replay shows the clocks were completely in sync on Western Michigan's field goal minutes earlier.

Also from what I can find, there is no "standard operating procedure" here as the replay rule book is not specific in regards to which clock to overlay side by side against the play footage.

I think Mike Pereira's take is the most common sense take. The clock that everyone sees should be the one used to determine whether there's a second left or not at the end of a quarter or a half.

At minimum, some process changes need to be considered. The most obvious one is to begin showing tenths of a second on the game clock near the end of the second quarter and near the end of the fourth quarter.

In the spirit of the idea that video evidence needs to be "irrefutable," my proposed change would simply be if the ruling on the field is that the clock expired, then every single clock that the replay crew has access to needs to still show time left - from the scoreboard clock, to the TV clock, to their Hawkeye clock. Look at all of them. If any one shows zero, then its not irrefutable.

I'm fine with tenths of a second being shown, but that wouldn't change the exact moment the clock transitions from 0:01 to 0:00 - that is going to happen at the exact same time regardless.

[Matt]

Keep coping! How embarrassing that Michigan won legitimately.

[radioandtventhusiast]

What an interesting game. I think a full investigation should be done. The clock was 0:00 from what I could see.

[Matt]

What an interesting game. I think a full investigation should be done. The clock was 0:00 from what I could see.

It has been done.

[MWmetalhead]

They acknowledge it, but they are 100% simping the Big Ten in order to continue to receive future paychecks.

That is a definite possibility.

[Honeyman]

[MegaHertz]

So, let me ask the green folks in the thread...how would you be feeling about this had all the Stallions and Moore business not been happening over the last few years? Would it be as big of a deal as it is now?

Frankly, if Michigan was gonna "cheat" to win a title, "cheating" to beat WMU seems like small potatoes to me, but that's just me. I have a feeling everytime something goes down, it's gonna be "cheating", even if it is just a lucky break. The program is fucking terrible right now, why do this with one second left in a game against a MAC opponent? What were the odds this situation would have come up? And what if this one second made no difference? It was funny when it was App State. You still chuckle over trouble with the snap. I'll give you the shit with Harbaugh and Stallions. But this is the hill you wanna die on? They would have been better off trying some shit against Oklahoma, who is probably gonna eat Michigan's lunch.

[Honeyman]

So, let me ask the green folks in the thread...how would you be feeling about this had all the Stallions and Moore business not been happening over the last few years? Would it be as big of a deal as it is now?

Frankly, if Michigan was gonna "cheat" to win a title, "cheating" to beat WMU seems like small potatoes to me, but that's just me. I have a feeling everytime something goes down, it's gonna be "cheating", even if it is just a lucky break. The program is fucking terrible right now, why do this with one second left in a game against a MAC opponent? What were the odds this situation would have come up? And what if this one second made no difference? It was funny when it was App State. You still chuckle over trouble with the snap. I'll give you the shit with Harbaugh and Stallions. But this is the hill you wanna die on? They would have been better off trying some shit against Oklahoma, who is probably gonna eat Michigan's lunch.

I never said Michigan cheated to win this game. I don't know who, if anybody, said that in this thread. My issue is that they didn't win the game, and moreso, it was stolen from a deserving WMU team. The Big Ten is at fault.

You saw the clock hit zero before it touched a player. Game over. Had you ever heard of another clock being used in Chicago before this?