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Detroit Tigers 2022
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Re: Detroit Tigers 2022
Well, our boys are doing their damnedest to avoid 100 losses, winning seven of their last ten and five in a row, including a sweep of the suddenly woeful White Sox. With eight games remaining, they'd have to lose out to reach 100 losses.
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Can't help but notice how this winning streak began soon after the new President of Baseball Operations hire was announced.
Does psychology factor into on-field performance? I certainly think so.
Does psychology factor into on-field performance? I certainly think so.
Morgan Wallen is a piece of garbage.
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Yes, I was thinking the same thing. Ya gotta believe changes are a'comin'.MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:40 pmCan't help but notice how this winning streak began soon after the new President of Baseball Operations hire was announced.
Does psychology factor into on-field performance? I certainly think so.
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The minute they put Soto in tonight’s game, I knew we were going to lose the 1st game of this doubleheader.
I hope to God that the Tigers don’t offer him arbitration and let him go. I’ve never been convinced he is a decent closer, even with him being an All Star the past 2 years
I hope to God that the Tigers don’t offer him arbitration and let him go. I’ve never been convinced he is a decent closer, even with him being an All Star the past 2 years
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The Tigers aren't in last place anymore! Where are all the tankniks up in arms over losing draft position?
Soto and Chafin are two very formidable lefties in what has been a surprisingly effective bullpen this season.
Well, he does have a power lefty arm. If he can effectively control his slider Soto can be nasty. With a guy starting the inning on 2B and you're defending a 1-run lead, you'll want a guy on the mound who can strike a guy out and not merely pitch to contact. It didn't work out last night.The minute they put Soto in tonight’s game, I knew we were going to lose the 1st game of this doubleheader.
I hope to God that the Tigers don’t offer him arbitration and let him go. I’ve never been convinced he is a decent closer, even with him being an All Star the past 2 years
Soto and Chafin are two very formidable lefties in what has been a surprisingly effective bullpen this season.
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Re: Detroit Tigers 2022
11 loses is way too many and out numbers the 30 saves. A lot of the save situations were almost sure winsmoldyoldie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 10:27 amThe Tigers aren't in last place anymore! Where are all the tankniks up in arms over losing draft position?
Well, he does have a power lefty arm. If he can effectively control his slider Soto can be nasty. With a guy starting the inning on 2B and you're defending a 1-run lead, you'll want a guy on the mound who can strike a guy out and not merely pitch to contact. It didn't work out last night.The minute they put Soto in tonight’s game, I knew we were going to lose the 1st game of this doubleheader.
I hope to God that the Tigers don’t offer him arbitration and let him go. I’ve never been convinced he is a decent closer, even with him being an All Star the past 2 years
Soto and Chafin are two very formidable lefties in what has been a surprisingly effective bullpen this season.
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"Sure wins" -- I'm not sure what that means. A save situation is where an entering pitcher eventually faces the potential tying run, which usually means entering with at most a three-run lead. Assuming Soto enters a game ONLY in a save situation, his eleven losses would mean eleven blown saves over the course of the season, netting a +19. Admittedly, his command is suspect -- 34 walks in 60 innings is far from optimum and a 1.376 WHIP is not what you want to see in a shut-down relief pitcher.Realist wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:54 pm11 loses is way too many and out numbers the 30 saves. A lot of the save situations were almost sure winsmoldyoldie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 10:27 amThe Tigers aren't in last place anymore! Where are all the tankniks up in arms over losing draft position?
Well, he does have a power lefty arm. If he can effectively control his slider Soto can be nasty. With a guy starting the inning on 2B and you're defending a 1-run lead, you'll want a guy on the mound who can strike a guy out and not merely pitch to contact. It didn't work out last night.The minute they put Soto in tonight’s game, I knew we were going to lose the 1st game of this doubleheader.
I hope to God that the Tigers don’t offer him arbitration and let him go. I’ve never been convinced he is a decent closer, even with him being an All Star the past 2 years
Soto and Chafin are two very formidable lefties in what has been a surprisingly effective bullpen this season.
That said, I've never been an adherent of a designated closer, set-up man, etc. I know it's probably good for a bullpen to know their roles entering a game, but there's also something to be said for going with who would be most effective in a given situation based on past performance and knowledge of the upcoming hitters.
On another matter, did you hear Jack Morris and Matt Shepherd tear into the organization in the last postgame show of the season? Whoa! Refreshing to say the least. Informed Tigers no-holds-barred blogger Holly Horning riffs on it today.
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Re: Detroit Tigers 2022
Just re-watched last year's season-ending press conference with Avila and Hinch.
Things that jumped out at me:
Things that jumped out at me:
- Expecting Mize, Skubal, and Manning to lead the starting pitching. That didn't happen, mostly because of injuries, and reminded me of how a similar thing happened with Boyd, Fulmer, and Norris after they went a collective 21-14 in 2016.
- Bringing back almost all of the coaches in 2022. That's definitely not going to happen in 2023.
- Avila's awareness of new trends in player development, but also his gruff defensiveness, which makes me think that he didn't always have an open mind to new ideas.
- The "thin ice" feeling of a lot of their comments about 2021, and how they had to keep working to move forward.
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Let the bloodletting begin!
"The Tigers, shut out 22 times and held to 3.44 runs per game, finished 66-96 overall for fourth place in the American League Central.
The 22 shutouts are the most by an American League team since the implementation of the designated hitter in 1973. The Tigers finished four shutouts shy of tying the franchise record, 26, set in 1904."
Detroit Tigers hitting coach Scott Coolbaugh not returning after two seasons
"The Tigers, shut out 22 times and held to 3.44 runs per game, finished 66-96 overall for fourth place in the American League Central.
The 22 shutouts are the most by an American League team since the implementation of the designated hitter in 1973. The Tigers finished four shutouts shy of tying the franchise record, 26, set in 1904."
Detroit Tigers hitting coach Scott Coolbaugh not returning after two seasons
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Re: Detroit Tigers 2022
I believe the Tigers also hit the least amount of homers in 50+ years. It’s embarrassing.
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They also fired their director of scouting today. Good riddance!
Morgan Wallen is a piece of garbage.
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Now, they need to fire the hitting, conditioning, and pitching coaches.
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In case you missed it, hitting coach is already kaput, see above. So is quality control coach, whatever that is. I'm guessing it has something to do with conditioning.MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:32 amNow, they need to fire the hitting, conditioning, and pitching coaches.
Pitching coach Fetter? Well, our pitching wasn't the problem by a long shot.
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