Delta Variant Surges in Israel, including the Vaccinated

[Matt]

Looks like COVID will likely surge again soon in the U.S. The fact that it is surging in Israel(one of the highest vaccinated countries in the world) scares me and should scare you too.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk

I keep seeing story after story on the news on how all three major vaccines are "very effective" on this "Delta" strain. How is it possible that Israel (or anywhere else) is seeing surges if they're mostly vaccinated??

Mostly isn't 100%.

[TC Shuts Up]

Unless China created the new variant in the lab, it's just a new natural mutation of the virus. The COVID-19 virus didn't occur in nature, it was deliberately mutated and modified. However, when mutations continue, it is likely that it will mutate closer to the "wild type" present in nature, that is bad but not as dangerous as the one they likely created in the lab.

[TC Talks]

I just got the J&J vaccine Thursday. This, plus my Pfizer in February has been shown to dramatically improve protection against Delta.

I have 22 days of music festivals to attend through October.

[MotorCityRadioFreak]

Looks like COVID will likely surge again soon in the U.S. The fact that it is surging in Israel(one of the highest vaccinated countries in the world) scares me and should scare you too.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk

I keep seeing story after story on the news on how all three major vaccines are "very effective" on this "Delta" strain. How is it possible that Israel (or anywhere else) is seeing surges if they're mostly vaccinated??

It's breaking through the vaccine in certain areas. It is also causing more deathly outcomes for many. It's not to be taken lightly.

[audiophile]

I have no need for vaccine. I had to two confirmed covid-19 positives in a modest house with me for a week. My symptoms? Sore throat for day, big whoop.

Eat right, lose excess weight and get some sun.

[jadednihilist]

Public health policy is a balance between tradeoffs: the economy and public safety. If you swing one direction too strongly for too long, then you are making a conscious choice to impose disproportionate harm on innocent segments of society.

We're at a point now that it's a personal responsibility issue. Anyone who wants a vaccine can get a vaccine easily and without undue barriers. Vaccinated are protected from the variants (including J&J). The unvaccinated have agency to make personal decisions we may disagree with, but they have the right to make it. However, just like other vaccines, the unvaccinated also may have to contend with barriers for various privileges, such as going to school, traveling out of country, etc, which has been a standard practice in our country for well over a century now.

The consensus I've seen from public heath experts is that we may see a surge in cases, but these surges will generally be regional and not national. Thus, it will be easier to deploy federal resources to deal with caseloads should they overwhelm local systems. I think that's a reasonable expectation with a novel virus and the current political environment. I don't think it would be reasonable to shut down the economy again, which disproportionately hurts small businesses and low-to-middle income earners.