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I do realize brain farts are prone to happen periodically on live TV, of course.
A funnel cloud was spotted near M59 and US 23 as well as further south by I-96 near Latson Road. So, there was something, and the storm was moving northeast which is why it missed Brighton.Mega Hertz wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:12 amMW, we didn't get jack shit in the Brighton area. I even got the notice on my phone for the Livingston county tornado warning. I was in Ann Arbor when my girlfriend called and said the sirens were going off. They went downstairs and, as I was on my way home, it didn't even start raining until I got to Silver Lake Road on 23. It rained for a little while and then stopped. Heavy rain started up again around 11. But as far as tornadoes and severe storms...nothing.
I remember in 1976 or 1977, we had a rainstorm of about the same magnitude.SteveS wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:12 amPaul was referring to the 6.8 inches of rain received at Comerica Park in 24 hours and how that much in 24 hours is statistically a 500 year event.
In the graphic after that he mentioned how four to seven inches of rain is the liquid equivalent of forty to seventy inches of snow.
No shit!? That is not too terribly far from my house and even closer to my work. See, I've had times where it is downpour at the office, but 5 miles down Grand River, my house is bone dry. Which is even weirder, I had to go to Tractor Supply Co which is a stone's throw from Latson. I just want a good pounding thunderstormMotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 1:50 pmA funnel cloud was spotted near M59 and US 23 as well as further south by I-96 near Latson Road. So, there was something, and the storm was moving northeast which is why it missed Brighton.Mega Hertz wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:12 amMW, we didn't get jack shit in the Brighton area. I even got the notice on my phone for the Livingston county tornado warning. I was in Ann Arbor when my girlfriend called and said the sirens were going off. They went downstairs and, as I was on my way home, it didn't even start raining until I got to Silver Lake Road on 23. It rained for a little while and then stopped. Heavy rain started up again around 11. But as far as tornadoes and severe storms...nothing.
The assertion that 6 inches of rain within 24 hours being a statistically once in a 500-year event within any given local point is mostly valid, with a caveat I'll add at the end of the post. With any long-term statistics, you can fit data into a distribution function that best fits the data (this is an example for precipitation), and from that fit, you can estimate overall probability and frequency to a high degree of accuracy. Here are a few precip/frequency curves fitted across local stations courtesy of NOAA/NWS's Hydrometeorological Design Studies Center Precipitation Frequency Data Server:MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:24 amOn the first point, he is simply wrong. Weather records in Detroit only date back to the 1870s, and some areas saw similar rainfall just seven years ago! There is no legitimate research he can cite to support the "500 year" claim. In other words, he is spreading FAKE NEWS.
On his second point, he is making an absurd comparison. Very warm air is capable of holding far more moisture than cold air. The amount of atmospheric "forcing" required to wring out 40 to 70 inches of snow at a 10:1 ratio at temps, say, in the 20s is far higher than the amount necessary to wring out 4 to 7 inches of rain with temps in the 70s.
Paul is overdramatizing the significance of the event and is full of shit. Much of the flooding in Detroit was manmade due to inoperative storm drain pumps. Where pumps were fully functional, flooding was minimal away from creeks and streams.
Government mouth pieces in some instances are blaming mother nature perhaps in an effort to ward off lawsuits arising from their willful neglect of infrastructure, which in some neighborhoods has led to repeated basement flooding episodes.