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Media Coverage of Local Sports Protests

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Re: Media Coverage of Local Sports Protests

Post by thekman » Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:03 pm

wtfdetroit wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:23 pm
Nobody can walk away from the NFL no matter how hard we try especially if we have fantasy leagues with friends and coworkers.
I’ve been running a fantasy league for over 10 years. We took a vote yesterday, I was shocked. 8-4 in favor of skipping this season. A couple people didn’t want to play due to a down year with their personal finances due to COVID lockdown. But others genuinely want nothing to do with sports any longer. We’ll see if the sentiment lasts, but it surprised the heck out of me.

Also, with so much work from home, I wonder if there also might be fewer leagues among coworkers.



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Re: Media Coverage of Local Sports Protests

Post by wtfdetroit » Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:33 pm

Wow that's pretty surprising. I'm work from home but all 12 of us from last year are in it again for this year.



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Re: Media Coverage of Local Sports Protests

Post by 696lover » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:04 am

"A player, if he chooses, can have the name of a Black person wronged in a confrontation with police emblazoned on the back of his helmet. End zones will have “It Takes All Of Us” on one end line, “End Racism” on the other. Coaches and game officials will be able to wear patches on their cap with the name of a Black victim, or with one of four messages: “It takes all of us,” “Black lives matter,” “End racism,” “Stop hate.” As for the helmets, players can choose either a Black name or one of the four preferred phrases offered: “Stop hate,” “It takes all of us,” “End racism,” “Black lives matter.”



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Re: Media Coverage of Local Sports Protests

Post by Bobbert » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:33 am

wtfdetroit wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:23 pm
Nobody can walk away from the NFL no matter how hard we try especially if we have fantasy leagues with friends and coworkers.
I'm a big baseball fan, so I confess it's hard to ignore the Tigers, especially when they show signs of ending the years of losing. I'm trying to rationalize that everyone is caught up in a big emotional moment and this won't go on forever. In baseball, it will be interesting to see if the protests continue after the fans return, and players are singled out for applause or booing when their names are announced.



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Re: Media Coverage of Local Sports Protests

Post by Scooter » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:56 pm

km1125 wrote:
Rate This wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:21 am
km1125 wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:53 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:30 pm
km1125 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:59 pm
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:17 pm
Annoying Karens about people Black people dying? You do realize white nationalists like you are the Karens, right?
None of those teams, players, or broadcasters really cared about all the black folks that died in Chicago last week or the week before. It's not about black people dying.
It’s about systemic racism. Correct.
Can you name one change in police procedures that would have changed the Jacob Blake outcome?
Draw your weapons only if you see a weapon first.
Are YOU signing up to be in law enforcement???

I would not take that job if I had to wait until someone had already obtained a lethal weapon before I had even a chance at defending my life. Implement something like that and you will definitely see massive really retirements and folks leaving the profession forever. And I would not blame them. Then we will all be responsible individually for our own protection.
Same formula every time: perp with warrants, high on drugs, resisting arrest, goes for a weapon, ends up dead.

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Re: Media Coverage of Local Sports Protests

Post by Bryce » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:13 pm

Rate This wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:21 am
Draw your weapons only if you see a weapon first.
Currently a police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be shot by a black male than a black male is to be shot by a cop. That policy will kick it up to about 30 to 1.

You see, if someone with a gun you cant see runs from you and gets behind cover, like a car or a wall, that individual can open fire without being exposed.

How about this. When a cop says stop, get on the ground and show me your hands, just do it. That would take the deaths WAY down.


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: Media Coverage of Local Sports Protests

Post by scifi and horror » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:10 am

Bryce wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:13 pm
Currently a police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be shot by a black male than a black male is to be shot by a cop. That policy will kick it up to about 30 to 1.
That makes no sense

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press ... ne-of-duty
In 2019 48 officers were killed in the line of duty

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585 ... e-by-race/
In 2019 235 Black people were were killed by police.

According to your figures there should be 4,347 cops shot by black in 2019.



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Re: Media Coverage of Local Sports Protests

Post by km1125 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:11 am

696lover wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:04 am
"A player, if he chooses, can have the name of a Black person wronged in a confrontation with police emblazoned on the back of his helmet. End zones will have “It Takes All Of Us” on one end line, “End Racism” on the other. Coaches and game officials will be able to wear patches on their cap with the name of a Black victim, or with one of four messages: “It takes all of us,” “Black lives matter,” “End racism,” “Stop hate.” As for the helmets, players can choose either a Black name or one of the four preferred phrases offered: “Stop hate,” “It takes all of us,” “End racism,” “Black lives matter.”
I'm OK with all that EXCEPT the "Black Lives Matter". They are PURELY a political organization.

6 little kids have been killed in Chicago this year. NOTHING from "Black Lives Matter" about doing ANYTHING about that. Their black lives DON'T matter to that organization. They should be sued for FALSE ADVERTISING, as should anybody who displays it.



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Re: Media Coverage of Local Sports Protests

Post by km1125 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:12 am

scifi and horror wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:10 am
Bryce wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:13 pm
Currently a police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be shot by a black male than a black male is to be shot by a cop. That policy will kick it up to about 30 to 1.
That makes no sense

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press ... ne-of-duty
In 2019 48 officers were killed in the line of duty

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585 ... e-by-race/
In 2019 235 Black people were were killed by police.

According to your figures there should be 4,347 cops shot by black in 2019.
Killed and Shot are two different things.



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Re: Media Coverage of Local Sports Protests

Post by scifi and horror » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:16 am

km1125 wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:12 am
Killed and Shot are two different things.
http://www.napo.org/files/9915/5086/169 ... f_Duty.pdf
Okay found 2018 for "shot" it was 251 still no where near 4000.



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Re: Media Coverage of Local Sports Protests

Post by SolidGoldDancers » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:44 am

Bryce wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:13 pm
Rate This wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:21 am
Draw your weapons only if you see a weapon first.
Currently a police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be shot by a black male than a black male is to be shot by a cop. That policy will kick it up to about 30 to 1.

You see, if someone with a gun you cant see runs from you and gets behind cover, like a car or a wall, that individual can open fire without being exposed.

How about this. When a cop says stop, get on the ground and show me your hands, just do it. That would take the deaths WAY down.
Whattya gonna do when they start treating everyone like that? Still acceptable behavior by law enforcement?



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Re: Media Coverage of Local Sports Protests

Post by SolidGoldDancers » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:51 am

km1125 wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:11 am
696lover wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:04 am
"A player, if he chooses, can have the name of a Black person wronged in a confrontation with police emblazoned on the back of his helmet. End zones will have “It Takes All Of Us” on one end line, “End Racism” on the other. Coaches and game officials will be able to wear patches on their cap with the name of a Black victim, or with one of four messages: “It takes all of us,” “Black lives matter,” “End racism,” “Stop hate.” As for the helmets, players can choose either a Black name or one of the four preferred phrases offered: “Stop hate,” “It takes all of us,” “End racism,” “Black lives matter.”
I'm OK with all that EXCEPT the "Black Lives Matter". They are PURELY a political organization.

6 little kids have been killed in Chicago this year. NOTHING from "Black Lives Matter" about doing ANYTHING about that. Their black lives DON'T matter to that organization. They should be sued for FALSE ADVERTISING, as should anybody who displays it.
Care to conflate anything else into this argument?
#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Foundation, Inc is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives.
You didn't hear anything about that because it is out of scope. That doesn't mean they don't care about little children, it means they are focused on their mission, quoted above for your convenience.



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Re: Media Coverage of Local Sports Protests

Post by km1125 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:18 am

SolidGoldDancers wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:51 am
Care to conflate anything else into this argument?
#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Foundation, Inc is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives.
You didn't hear anything about that because it is out of scope. That doesn't mean they don't care about little children, it means they are focused on their mission, quoted above for your convenience.
Hello?? Who are these folks that are killing young black children in their neighborhoods?? Vigilantes or priests?? Even if these kids are killed as bystanders, it's the 'vigilantes' trying to enforce the 'hood' law. What about killing kids doesn't fall under the umbrella of "intervening in violence"?? How do you get "black joy" and "improvements to our lives" if you still allow young kids to be slaughtered in your neighborhoods??

Are the Black Lives Matter folks really saying "not our problem" about those kids or any of the other THOUSANDS of innocent black lives that are snuffed out every year??

Oh, and what about the Black Lives Matter folks who go around chanting about white people needing to "give up their homes" or the BLM folks chanting they are "There To Protect Black Criminals"?? Are those outside their scope or part of their movement??



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Re: Media Coverage of Local Sports Protests

Post by Bryce » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:11 pm

scifi and horror wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:10 am
Bryce wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:13 pm
Currently a police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be shot by a black male than a black male is to be shot by a cop. That policy will kick it up to about 30 to 1.
That makes no sense
It's an odds equation. in 2018 there were 686,665 full time law enforcement officers working in the United states. As of 2018 there were about 23 million black males living in the United States.

Lets just use your "killed" statistics instead of the "shot" statistics...

48 divided by 686,665 is 6.99
235 divided by 23 million is 1.02

A police officer is 7 times more likely to be killed by a black male than the other way around.


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: Media Coverage of Local Sports Protests

Post by scifi and horror » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:28 pm

Bryce wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:11 pm
It's an odds equation. in 2018 there were 686,665 full time law enforcement officers working in the United states. As of 2018 there were about 23 million black males living in the United States.

Lets just use your "killed" statistics instead of the "shot" statistics...

48 divided by 686,665 is 6.99
235 divided by 23 million is 1.02

A police officer is 7 times more likely to be killed by a black male than the other way around.
You are saying all 48 cops were killed by black males?
All your odds state is being in law enforcement is more dangerous then not being in law enforcement.



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