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7 news hits a new low with the political bias

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Re: 7 news hits a new low with the political bias

Post by Rate This » Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:28 pm

craig11152 wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:34 pm
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Portland has been reignited by those forces showing up. City leadership and local clergy and activists were getting a handle on it and expected it to burn itself out in 2-3 days.
That is a rather absurd assumption. The thing is local news media gives a running daily account of events. Nightly video is available on YouTube, Twitter, TicToc . I won't argue that the feds upped the ante and gave the protesters a new target to hate but there is no way that thing was going to end in 2-3 days.
That’s what the local activists, clergy and leaders are saying. If you have a beef with it talk to them. I didn’t assume a damn thing. Read up on what was said by the mayor et al before you accuse me of assuming things.



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Re: 7 news hits a new low with the political bias

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craig11152 wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:34 pm
Rate This wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:39 pm
Portland has been reignited by those forces showing up. City leadership and local clergy and activists were getting a handle on it and expected it to burn itself out in 2-3 days.
That is a rather absurd assumption. The thing is local news media gives a running daily account of events. Nightly video is available on YouTube, Twitter, TicToc . I won't argue that the feds upped the ante and gave the protesters a new target to hate but there is no way that thing was going to end in 2-3 days.
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Re: 7 news hits a new low with the political bias

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Lucky:

I have noticed he is on here early in the morning (6:00AM) until late in the evening (~8:00PM).
Some of his post are timed stamped as early as 3AM and as late as 10:30 at night. That dill weed is on here 24/7.
3am? More like 4 when I get up for work. I check in here to bug you on my down time.

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Re: 7 news hits a new low with the political bias

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Lucky615 wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:51 pm
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Lucky615 wrote:
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Lucky:

I have noticed he is on here early in the morning (6:00AM) until late in the evening (~8:00PM).
Some of his post are timed stamped as early as 3AM and as late as 10:30 at night. That dill weed is on here 24/7.
3am? More like 4 when I get up for work. I check in here to bug you on my down time.

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Re: 7 news hits a new low with the political bias

Post by MWmetalhead » Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:10 pm

The mayor must be sweating, because Kym and Dana covered for him on the FOIA crime and forcing funds to his girlfriend's 'charity', but the federal agents are not in the same state party he is.
Interesting angle; I like it.


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The mayor must be sweating, because Kym and Dana covered for him on the FOIA crime and forcing funds to his girlfriend's 'charity', but the federal agents are not in the same state party he is.
Interesting angle; I like it.
Should federal agents have a political party as influence? How do we know they are Republicans? The military is about 50-50... I imagine the other similar entities are well... similar.



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Re: 7 news hits a new low with the political bias

Post by MWmetalhead » Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:30 pm

I think the political party reference pertains to the fact the state AG, Kym Worthy, etc. have turned a blind eye to malfeasance by the Duggan administration.

Policy wise, Duggan has implemented some things that I like. The good outweighs the bad. That said - he's still a slimy politician.


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Re: 7 news hits a new low with the political bias

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I think the political party reference pertains to the fact the state AG, Kym Worthy, etc. have turned a blind eye to malfeasance by the Duggan administration.

Policy wise, Duggan has implemented some things that I like. The good outweighs the bad. That said - he's still a slimy politician.
It seems to me like he’s saying they are in a different party and will have no problem taking down a Democrat as a result.. such reasoning would be frightening regardless of party...



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Re: 7 news hits a new low with the political bias

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MWmetalhead wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:30 pm
I think the political party reference pertains to the fact the state AG, Kym Worthy, etc. have turned a blind eye to malfeasance by the Duggan administration.

Policy wise, Duggan has implemented some things that I like. The good outweighs the bad. That said - he's still a slimy politician.
In 20-30 years, he will probably be crucified like Cobo, who by all contemporary accounts in the Detroit Free Press of the 1950s was a very good mayor. The Rochelle Riley of 2040 or 2050 will see him as a white servant of businesses and visitors and an enemy of neighborhoods, no matter how untrue that might be.



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Re: 7 news hits a new low with the political bias

Post by 696lover » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:45 am

I don't know if you guys were paying attention with Dennis Archer was mayor, but he was black--and very accomplished professionally prior to being mayor.

He saw the way the city was heading, towards bankruptcy. He tried to stop the bleeding cash over to union leaders, pension fund boards, pastors, and politicians.

They all were after him, uncle tom this, oreo that. And the media fell right into line and helped destroy him.

Compared to that, Mike is getting a free ride. There has to be a reason for that.



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Re: 7 news hits a new low with the political bias

Post by craig11152 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:46 am

Rate This wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:28 pm
craig11152 wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:34 pm
Rate This wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:39 pm
Portland has been reignited by those forces showing up. City leadership and local clergy and activists were getting a handle on it and expected it to burn itself out in 2-3 days.
That is a rather absurd assumption. The thing is local news media gives a running daily account of events. Nightly video is available on YouTube, Twitter, TicToc . I won't argue that the feds upped the ante and gave the protesters a new target to hate but there is no way that thing was going to end in 2-3 days.
That’s what the local activists, clergy and leaders are saying. If you have a beef with it talk to them. I didn’t assume a damn thing. Read up on what was said by the mayor et al before you accuse me of assuming things.
I didn't accuse you of anything dip shit. I'm referencing the assumptions made by locals. THEIR ASSUMPTIONS were absurd.
I will however accuse you of being too lazy to wonder if those assumptions were remotely accurate and posting them as though they were accurate instead of doing a little research.
When local officials make statements that can't be justified by facts that's on them. When you parrot it without bothering to see if its accurate that's on you. I blame you for lack of curiosity for the truth.


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Re: 7 news hits a new low with the political bias

Post by Rate This » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:53 am

craig11152 wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:46 am
Rate This wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:28 pm
craig11152 wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:34 pm
Rate This wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:39 pm
Portland has been reignited by those forces showing up. City leadership and local clergy and activists were getting a handle on it and expected it to burn itself out in 2-3 days.
That is a rather absurd assumption. The thing is local news media gives a running daily account of events. Nightly video is available on YouTube, Twitter, TicToc . I won't argue that the feds upped the ante and gave the protesters a new target to hate but there is no way that thing was going to end in 2-3 days.
That’s what the local activists, clergy and leaders are saying. If you have a beef with it talk to them. I didn’t assume a damn thing. Read up on what was said by the mayor et al before you accuse me of assuming things.
I didn't accuse you of anything dip shit. I'm referencing the assumptions made by locals. THEIR ASSUMPTIONS were absurd.
I will however accuse you of being too lazy to wonder if those assumptions were remotely accurate and posting them as though they were accurate instead of doing a little research.
When local officials make statements that can't be justified by facts that's on them. When you parrot it without bothering to see if its accurate that's on you. I blame you for lack of curiosity for the truth.
Don’t make me bring out the clown emoji....



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Re: 7 news hits a new low with the political bias

Post by craig11152 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:00 am

For those who aren't aware on Twitter and Google one can easily set time frames for a search. So if you want to see anything posted on a specific date, or a specific time frame its easy to do.
For instance one could, if they gave two shits about accuracy, go to Twitter and Google and search "Portland Protests", "Portland Riots" for the time frame of the week before the Feds showed up and read what was happening.
But in fairness that takes a little work and its easier just to pass on shit one agrees with. Then hang out with ones friends who are as disinterested in accuracy as you are.


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Re: 7 news hits a new low with the political bias

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Don’t make me bring out the clown emoji....
Please do, that just says you have no real answer.


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Re: 7 news hits a new low with the political bias

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craig11152 wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:01 am
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Don’t make me bring out the clown emoji....
Please do, that just says you have no real answer.
Let’s try this since the reality of trying what you said is murky at best.
Mardy Widman has watched protests against racial injustice unfold in her hometown of Portland, Oregon, for more than seven weeks but stayed away because, at age 79, she feared contracting the coronavirus.

But that calculus changed for Widman when President Donald Trump sent federal law enforcement agents to the liberal city to quell violent demonstrations — a tactic he's said he'll use for other cities. On Monday, a masked Widman was in the street with more than 1,000 other Portland residents — a far larger crowd than the city had seen in recent days as it entered its eighth week of nightly protests.

“It’s like a dictatorship," Widman, a grandmother of five, said, holding up a sign that read: “Grammy says: Please feds, leave Portland.”

“I mean, that he can pick on our city mostly because of the way we vote and make an example of it for his base is very frightening," she said.


Far from tamping down the unrest, the presence of federal agents — and particularly allegations they have whisked people away in unmarked cars without probable cause — has given new momentum and a new focus to protests that had begun to devolve into smaller, chaotic crowds. The use of federal agents against the will of local officials has also set up the potential for a constitutional crisis, which could escalate if Trump sends federal agents elsewhere.

Federal forces were deployed to Portland in early July, and tensions have risen since: On July 11, a protester was hospitalized with critical injuries after a U.S. Marshals Service officer struck him in the head with a round of less-lethal ammunition.

Then, anger flared again over the weekend after video surfaced of a federal agent hitting a Navy veteran repeatedly with a baton while another agent sprays him in the face with pepper spray. Richard Cline, principal deputy director of the Federal Protective Service, told reporters Tuesday that the officers are part of the Marshals Service and that the Justice Department's inspector general is investigating.

Crowds in Portland had recently numbered fewer than 100 people but swelled to more than 1,000 over the weekend — and they're once again attracting a broader base in a city that's increasingly outraged.

Federal agents again used force to scatter protesters early Tuesday and deployed tear gas and rubber bullets as some banged on the doors of the Mark O. Hatfield Federal Courthouse and tried to pull plywood off the shuttered entryway. The boarded-up courthouse, which has been a focus of protests, is now covered with graffiti.


Portland police said some protesters lit fires in the street and tried several times to set them at the courthouse doors.

“It is time for the Trump troops to go home and focus their attention on other activities,” Democratic Gov. Kate Brown said on MSNBC.

State and local authorities didn’t ask for federal help and are awaiting a decision on a lawsuit seeking to restrain the federal agents’ actions. Oregon Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum said in court papers that masked federal agents have arrested people on the street, far from the courthouse, with no probable cause and whisked them away in unmarked cars.

The federal government was sued again Tuesday by the Western States Center, two state representatives and others who argued that agents violated protesters’ 10th Amendment rights by engaging in police activities designated to local and state governments.

Federal agencies defended the actions in Portland. Some in the crowd this weekend used radio frequency jammers and shot pellet and airsoft guns to injure officers, according to the Justice Department. It's also investigating “suspicious devices" outside the courthouse that could have caused "serious harm to those in the building,” spokeswoman Kerri Kupec said.

Some of the demonstrators also tried to barricade federal officers inside the courthouse and set the building on fire, Kupec said.

In a news conference in Washington, acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said agents have been assaulted with lasers, bats, fireworks, bottles and other weapons and “yet the city of Portland takes little to no action.”


Wolf said the agency has clear authority to protect government property and detain people suspected of threatening personnel or damaging that property. He disputed that unidentified agents have made arrests, noting they have the word “police” on their uniforms and that officers wear camouflage like they do when working on the border.

“These police officers are not storm troopers, they are not Gestapo. That description is offensive,” Wolf said.

He said federal agencies have made 43 arrests since July 4.

While U.S. authorities can enforce federal laws on federal property, state and local officials say the agents have operated beyond their jurisdiction. Constitutional law experts said federal officers’ actions are “unprecedented” and a “red flag” in what could become a test case of states’ rights as the Trump administration expands federal policing.

Homeland Security plans to deploy about 150 of its agents to Chicago to help local law enforcement deal with a spike in crime, according to an official with direct knowledge of the plans who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to speak publicly. The Trump administration also sent more than 100 federal law enforcement officers to Kansas City, Missouri, to help quell a rise in violence after the shooting death of a young boy there.

For days after the death of George Floyd — a Black man who died after a white Minneapolis police officer pressed a knee into his neck — protests against racial injustice in Portland attracted thousands and were largely peaceful, though smaller groups vandalized federal property and police buildings and clashed violently with authorities.


Portland police used tear gas on multiple occasions until a federal court order banned them from doing so without declaring a riot. Now, anger is building as federal officers deploy tear gas.

As crowds have swelled again, most prominent are the Wall of Moms and PDX Dad Pod, self-described parents who have shown up by the hundreds each night since the weekend, wearing yellow T-shirts and bicycle helmets and ski goggles for protection.

Some wielded leaf blowers Monday night to help disperse tear gas as they marched down a downtown street.

“It's appalling to me, and it's a unifying thing. Nobody wants them here,” said Eryn Hoerster, a mother of two children, ages 4 and 8, who was attending her first nighttime protest.

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Associated Press writers Colleen Long, Ben Fox and Michael Balsamo in Washington and Sara Cline in Salem, Oregon, contributed to this report.
Sounds like they were on the decline to me... and I’m searching around early July I didn’t exactly get the sense they were on the upswing every night. And then they were having by court order to declare a “riot“ in order to use tear gas... unlawful assembly no longer was good enough. So an actual riot may or may not have been occurring on every night that they declared one.



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