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Oh look, more freedoms being crushed, like seatbelts, shirt and shoes, or drunk driving.
The "Conservative Victims" are going to go crazy now...
Gov. Gretchen Whitmer on Friday toughened and expanded Michigan's mask-wearing requirements, saying that wearing masks is the best way to reverse an increase in coronavirus cases.
Whitmer issued an executive order that:
Requires any business that is open to the public to refuse entry or service to people who refuse to wear a face covering, with limited exceptions.
Requires the use of face coverings in crowded outdoor spaces.
Reiterates that individuals are required to wear a face covering whenever they are in an indoor public space.
The order takes effect Monday.
Though a violation can be a misdemeanor and bring a $500 fine, Whitmer's order and the news release that detailed it is silent on enforcement. Whitmer said Thursday that local officials will likely need to become more active in enforcement. The prior order did not set out specific penalties for violation
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For Kristian Trumpers are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.
-Romans 16:18
For Kristian Trumpers are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.
-Romans 16:18
She pulled that 70% number out of thin air again....this time vaguely referencing "studies." Can somebody please tell me what the hell studies she's referring to when she says that wearing a mask reduces the spread by 70%?
No shoes, no shirt, no mask, NO service! While I feel everyone should be wearing a mask (not doing so is a slap in the face to retail employees who are putting their lives on the line to serve you) I don't think an executive order was necessary. What should have been done is enforce stores to comply with the mask requirement and fine the stores for not adhering to it.
bmw wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:33 pm
She pulled that 70% number out of thin air again....this time vaguely referencing "studies." Can somebody please tell me what the hell studies she's referring to when she says that wearing a mask reduces the spread by 70%?
This is nothing more than a scare tactic that will not be enforced. A slew of Chads and Karens will be bothering dispatch centers. That is all that will come of this.
For Kristian Trumpers are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.
-Romans 16:18
I love how some people all of a sudden are quoting the 14th Amendment. If you are running a business, you must adhere to state licensing laws, and that's not in the 14th Amendment either.
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For Kristian Trumpers are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.
-Romans 16:18
While I'm by no means a fan of Miss Whitmer and l think a lot of what TC TALKS says on this board is quite comical,I did see a recent study stating that a person wearing a mask is about 67 percent less likely to contract Covid-19.Just Google masks studies and news.Have to get back to work from break.Sorry about not posting a link.
ADD in TC wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:15 pm
While I'm by no means a fan of Miss Whitmer and l think a lot of what TC TALKS says on this board is quite comical,I did see a recent study stating that a person wearing a mask is about 67 percent less likely to contract Covid-19.Just Google masks studies and news.Have to get back to work from break.Sorry about not posting a link.
TC Talks wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:49 pm
.... it's simple, if a business is flagrantly violating the order, they get a ticket ....
This goes along with how I feel. If folks are strolling the aisles maskless, who's to blame? The one without the mask, or the store for letting them in?
And as an aside.
Some folks say "Oh, the store will lose business, oh my". I ponder if once a place got a reputation for being rigid about not letting folks in without a mask, mask wearers would go out of their way to shop there.
TC Talks wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:49 pm
.... it's simple, if a business is flagrantly violating the order, they get a ticket ....
This goes along with how I feel. If folks are strolling the aisles maskless, who's to blame? The one without the mask, or the store for letting them in?
And as an aside.
Some folks say "Oh, the store will lose business, oh my". I ponder if once a place got a reputation for being rigid about not letting folks in without a mask, mask wearers would go out of their way to shop there.
I was downtown last week, every person had a mask, some were not wearing it. When they entered a store, if asked, they would pull it up.
I think those who yell the loudest will still conform, I will tell you why: businesses don't want further restrictions. Masks seem to be a step before partial closures like we have already seen.
We have the opportunity to see how it goes when safety steps are not in place at all, it's worse for business than the few rules in place today. How pissed would you be as a bar owner in Lansing that was forced to close because Harper's allowed the shit show to go on?
No one wants these restrictions, but we gripped at harsh drunk driving laws and that has proven itself as being good practice for lower deaths.
For Kristian Trumpers are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.
-Romans 16:18
