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Whitmer Misses The Mark

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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by TC Talks » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:50 pm

There are plenty of Baby Boomers in that photo. When the sheriff handed out tickets a few years ago the ages range from 14 to 73.


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by audiophile » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:40 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:23 pm

BTW, 90+ % of visitors to the sandbar are from downstate and will be returning home with COVID this week. Grand Traverse county has one of the lowest rates in the nation...
90% will not be returning with Covid. That comment is just silly.


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by TC Talks » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:59 pm

audiophile wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:40 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:23 pm

BTW, 90+ % of visitors to the sandbar are from downstate and will be returning home with COVID this week. Grand Traverse county has one of the lowest rates in the nation...
90% will not be returning with Covid. That comment is just silly.
I agree, 90% are visitors. And some will be returning home with COVID.


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by Bryce » Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:43 am

Stopped into a northern Michigan Walmart over the weekend. A good 80% of the shoppers were going mask free. Except in the check-out lines, few were practicing social distancing.


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by Rate This » Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:57 am

Bryce wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:43 am
Stopped into a northern Michigan Walmart over the weekend. A good 80% of the shoppers were going mask free. Except in the check-out lines, few were practicing social distancing.
That fits the demographics correctly.



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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by MasterB » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:54 pm

F-Squared wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:59 am
MasterB wrote:The young think they're invincible and don't think they'll get it and are spreading the virus around. And I also think that those that do COVID parties should be arrested which why would anyone want COVID anyways that is risking lives along with going to the hospital as well idiots & morons.
Can you name of one instance where a "COVID party" has happened in the state of Michigan? Because this is news to me.
MWmetalhead wrote:A lot of folks in the medical community and the governors of California, Texas and Florida seem to agree millennials are a big problem at the moment.

They are not social distancing, they are not wearing masks, they gather in large groups often, and then they visit their parents or grandparents while asymptomatic but contagious.

It was Gen-Z and millennials who were packed in like sardines at those bars in East Lansing and Royal Oak. Both businesses should be fined harshly for clearly ignoring capacity limitations.
Don't forget that there's still some older people who are far-right Trump supporters who still believe that the virus is a hoax, that wearing masks is something the government is using to put us in line and that they shouldn't have to wear one, and that they think social distancing is military protocol that they're using to order us around. They exist. And that's why you can't blame the spread on any one demographic. They're all for blame here.


Additionally, I recommend you both look at this article about a study conducted by the BBC about which demographics are contributing to the spread and how: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... estaurants

Here's one important excerpt from that:
What we have found in this data is that adults aged 20-50 make most of their contacts in workplaces. If those of us who can work remotely start doing so now, it will contribute to lowering overall transmission in the population. Another important finding is that people over 65 – who are particularly at risk from severe Covid-19 illness – make over half of their contacts in other settings (not home, school or work), such as shops, restaurants and leisure centres.
I don't know anywhere in Michigan about COVID parties other than hearing about it from Alabama.


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by RedMenace » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:21 pm

Rate This wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:57 am
Bryce wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:43 am
Stopped into a northern Michigan Walmart over the weekend. A good 80% of the shoppers were going mask free. Except in the check-out lines, few were practicing social distancing.
That fits the demographics correctly.
What are you trying to say there skippy? Spit it out, don't be afraid.

And just take a look at covid case in Northern Michigan compared to citiots homes down state.


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by F-Squared » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:23 pm

MasterB wrote:
F-Squared wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:59 am
MasterB wrote:The young think they're invincible and don't think they'll get it and are spreading the virus around. And I also think that those that do COVID parties should be arrested which why would anyone want COVID anyways that is risking lives along with going to the hospital as well idiots & morons.
Can you name of one instance where a "COVID party" has happened in the state of Michigan? Because this is news to me.
MWmetalhead wrote:A lot of folks in the medical community and the governors of California, Texas and Florida seem to agree millennials are a big problem at the moment.

They are not social distancing, they are not wearing masks, they gather in large groups often, and then they visit their parents or grandparents while asymptomatic but contagious.

It was Gen-Z and millennials who were packed in like sardines at those bars in East Lansing and Royal Oak. Both businesses should be fined harshly for clearly ignoring capacity limitations.
Don't forget that there's still some older people who are far-right Trump supporters who still believe that the virus is a hoax, that wearing masks is something the government is using to put us in line and that they shouldn't have to wear one, and that they think social distancing is military protocol that they're using to order us around. They exist. And that's why you can't blame the spread on any one demographic. They're all for blame here.


Additionally, I recommend you both look at this article about a study conducted by the BBC about which demographics are contributing to the spread and how: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... estaurants

Here's one important excerpt from that:
What we have found in this data is that adults aged 20-50 make most of their contacts in workplaces. If those of us who can work remotely start doing so now, it will contribute to lowering overall transmission in the population. Another important finding is that people over 65 – who are particularly at risk from severe Covid-19 illness – make over half of their contacts in other settings (not home, school or work), such as shops, restaurants and leisure centres.
I don't know anywhere in Michigan about COVID parties other than hearing about it from Alabama.
Yeah it's only ever happened in Alabama. If it was anywhere else, I'm positive we would have heard about it.



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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by Rate This » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:41 pm

RedMenace wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:21 pm
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:57 am
Bryce wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:43 am
Stopped into a northern Michigan Walmart over the weekend. A good 80% of the shoppers were going mask free. Except in the check-out lines, few were practicing social distancing.
That fits the demographics correctly.
What are you trying to say there skippy? Spit it out, don't be afraid.

And just take a look at covid case in Northern Michigan compared to citiots homes down state.
Skippy? Oh no.....



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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by RedMenace » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:54 pm

Rate This wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:41 pm
RedMenace wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:21 pm
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:57 am
Bryce wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:43 am
Stopped into a northern Michigan Walmart over the weekend. A good 80% of the shoppers were going mask free. Except in the check-out lines, few were practicing social distancing.
That fits the demographics correctly.
What are you trying to say there skippy? Spit it out, don't be afraid.

And just take a look at covid case in Northern Michigan compared to citiots homes down state.
Skippy? Oh no.....
Still waiting...


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by Rate This » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:57 pm

RedMenace wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:54 pm
Rate This wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:41 pm
RedMenace wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:21 pm
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:57 am
Bryce wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:43 am
Stopped into a northern Michigan Walmart over the weekend. A good 80% of the shoppers were going mask free. Except in the check-out lines, few were practicing social distancing.
That fits the demographics correctly.
What are you trying to say there skippy? Spit it out, don't be afraid.

And just take a look at covid case in Northern Michigan compared to citiots homes down state.
Skippy? Oh no.....
Still waiting...
Most people in Northern Michigan tend to be Republicans and republicans tend to not like masks at the present time. So it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that walking into a Walmart up there would yield a lack of masks.



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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by RedMenace » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:10 pm

Rate This wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:57 pm
RedMenace wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:54 pm
Rate This wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:41 pm
RedMenace wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:21 pm
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:57 am
Bryce wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:43 am
Stopped into a northern Michigan Walmart over the weekend. A good 80% of the shoppers were going mask free. Except in the check-out lines, few were practicing social distancing.
That fits the demographics correctly.
What are you trying to say there skippy? Spit it out, don't be afraid.

And just take a look at covid case in Northern Michigan compared to citiots homes down state.
Skippy? Oh no.....
Still waiting...
Most people in Northern Michigan tend to be Republicans and republicans tend to not like masks at the present time. So it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that walking into a Walmart up there would yield a lack of masks.
Ok, so you stereotype not only northern Michigan but you stereotype Republicans as well. I think you were really trying a backhanded swipe at Northern Michigan residents but whatevs.

But yes, many of us (repubs, dems and independents) don't wear masks. Haven't from the beginning and many defied the stay at home orders, probably many more than abided by it. And in the beginning and recently governor dipshit was allowing citiots to move freely to cottages and second homes. Opened our bars and restaurants and citiots came in droves. Yet we have some of the lowest infection rates in the US. So why is that because we "seem" to be doing everything wrong?


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by Matt » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:11 pm

Rate This wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:57 pm
RedMenace wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:54 pm
Rate This wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:41 pm
RedMenace wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:21 pm
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:57 am
Bryce wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:43 am
Stopped into a northern Michigan Walmart over the weekend. A good 80% of the shoppers were going mask free. Except in the check-out lines, few were practicing social distancing.
That fits the demographics correctly.
What are you trying to say there skippy? Spit it out, don't be afraid.

And just take a look at covid case in Northern Michigan compared to citiots homes down state.
Skippy? Oh no.....
Still waiting...
Most people in Northern Michigan tend to be Republicans and republicans tend to not like masks at the present time. So it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that walking into a Walmart up there would yield a lack of masks.
Except that on a holiday weekend, you're going to see a majority of downstaters. Stop trying to make this partisan...



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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by Rate This » Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:28 pm

It is a fact that you are more likely to see a Republican ignore the mask requirements than an independent or a Democrat based on the behavior of the President. They are following his lead. Add in the demographics that would tend to go up there and my theory is sound.



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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by RedMenace » Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:54 pm

Rate This wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:28 pm
It is a fact that you are more likely to see a Republican ignore the mask requirements than an independent or a Democrat based on the behavior of the President. They are following his lead. Add in the demographics that would tend to go up there and my theory is sound.
Well that's some bullshit, but I'll play.
First off neither me or anyone I know gives a rat's ass what the president does or doesn't do as far as the mask. It's my choice whether to wear one or not. I don't belittle anyone for wearing or not wearing one.
And if I use your logic then the vast majority of dems wear a mask because Trump doesn't. Not because it may help slow the spread. Nope, it because "orange man bad".
And anything he's for they're against and anything he's against they're for.


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