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Channel-Sharing, Canadian Style
Re: Channel-Sharing, Canadian Style
I wish the CRTC would treat subchannels as if they were part of the primary station. I would really like to see some Canadian diginets! Maybe CBC could have a Canadian reruns diginet (akin to Me TV, but Canadian). And maybe we could enjoy some SCTV (take off hoser!)
Alas, Canadian cord cutters have it rough if they don't live near the border. (Sorry, Newfoundland!)
Alas, Canadian cord cutters have it rough if they don't live near the border. (Sorry, Newfoundland!)
"Wanna watch some syndicated slop with very little budget or entertainment value? You got it buddy!"
-Byron "The Broadcast Butcher" Allen
-Byron "The Broadcast Butcher" Allen
Re: Channel-Sharing, Canadian Style
Splouge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:56 pmI wish the CRTC would treat subchannels as if they were part of the primary station. I would really like to see some Canadian diginets! Maybe CBC could have a Canadian reruns diginet (akin to Me TV, but Canadian). And maybe we could enjoy some SCTV (take off hoser!)
Alas, Canadian cord cutters have it rough if they don't live near the border. (Sorry, Newfoundland!)
I don't mean to brag, but I just put a puzzle together in 1 day and the box said 2-4 years.
- Some Guy from Toledo
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Re: Channel-Sharing, Canadian Style
Wouldn't surprise me that was the best they could do for that station than invest in extra VTR's to run something else at the time.innate-in-you wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:54 pmThe only substitute programming I saw from (what was then) CKGN-TV-22 was, for about two years, a black-and-white slide with the "three merged Gs" denoting "Programming will resume at n:nn pm".rugratsonline wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:44 pmBack when the channel 22 transmitter was still in Cottam, they had to substitute some programming in prime time in order to make the US networks happy, as their signal easily reached Detroit. They later moved to Stevenson after a transmitter fire, but a few years after that, they had to adjust its signal, as channel 22 from Stevenson could be easily tuned in across Lake Erie in Cleveland.Some Guy from Toledo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:40 pmI used to get ch. 22 back in the analog days once in a while.RingtailedFox wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:52 pmIf I remember correctly, Global's signal *is* nulled towards Detroit, and yes, it is the most difficult Canadian station for me to pick up, because of that. Don't' fret if you don't receive it, because I often have difficulty tuning in, too!
After about two years, the American program hours would be replaced with a video text news feed, like so many cable systems offered in that era.
Poor Windsorites.Then CKGN-TV-22 (Cottam) was destroyed by a fire.
I bet. All that work just so America can't complain!About ten years later, CIII-TV-22 came on the air from Stephenson (combined with a CTV transmitter, on Channel 16, that still carries CTV2 programming (I guess from that location, the coverage contour precisely matches the path of the Detroit River). CTV2 also has a transmitter in Downtown Windsor, beaming Southeastward, with all stateside land effectively nulled out. An amazing technological feat!
Reminded I bought a copy of this fancy record off eBay recently!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcofkAAhRH8
That is the sad part in all this, even Mexico knows how to use that extra space effectively.Splouge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:56 pmI wish the CRTC would treat subchannels as if they were part of the primary station. I would really like to see some Canadian diginets! Maybe CBC could have a Canadian reruns diginet (akin to Me TV, but Canadian). And maybe we could enjoy some SCTV (take off hoser!)
Alas, Canadian cord cutters have it rough if they don't live near the border. (Sorry, Newfoundland!)
Re: Channel-Sharing, Canadian Style
A couple quick notes on Global TV for our American neighbours....
--Windsorites don't need Global bc they just show in prime time the same as the American networks that we already get OTA.Thats why there is a null towards the US border for protection of the American networks.
---Windsorites don't need the news on Global bc its Toronto news and most don't have an interest in it since TO is 5 hrs away.
---And lastly ….the reason why the CRTC shuns subchannels is bc they don't want to give a better free alternative to pay tv cable/sat.Companies like Roger and Bell are so high up big gov't's rectum they want the monopolies to continue.
--Windsorites don't need Global bc they just show in prime time the same as the American networks that we already get OTA.Thats why there is a null towards the US border for protection of the American networks.
---Windsorites don't need the news on Global bc its Toronto news and most don't have an interest in it since TO is 5 hrs away.
---And lastly ….the reason why the CRTC shuns subchannels is bc they don't want to give a better free alternative to pay tv cable/sat.Companies like Roger and Bell are so high up big gov't's rectum they want the monopolies to continue.
F**K Trudeau and F**K CBC !!!!
Re: Channel-Sharing, Canadian Style
Come on, CRTC, let broadcasters have some fun! Y'all are what is keeping Canada from enjoying true free speech.
Another thing about Canadian monopolies, monopolies in cable aren't just encouraged, but mostly are required.
If a cable channel is a category A service, no other companies can start a cable channel in the same genre. As a result, Nickelodeon Canada and Disney Channel Canada are owned by the same company.
The Canadian constitution doesn't even guarantee freedom.
Canadians, our door is open, come on in and join US!
Another thing about Canadian monopolies, monopolies in cable aren't just encouraged, but mostly are required.
If a cable channel is a category A service, no other companies can start a cable channel in the same genre. As a result, Nickelodeon Canada and Disney Channel Canada are owned by the same company.
The Canadian constitution doesn't even guarantee freedom.
Canadians, our door is open, come on in and join US!
"Wanna watch some syndicated slop with very little budget or entertainment value? You got it buddy!"
-Byron "The Broadcast Butcher" Allen
-Byron "The Broadcast Butcher" Allen
Re: Channel-Sharing, Canadian Style
The equivalent of Bell in the US would be if one of the Big Three, iHeartRadio, Sinclair, AT&T, and Comcast were all under the same corporate umbrellawindsor wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:15 pmA couple quick notes on Global TV for our American neighbours....
--Windsorites don't need Global bc they just show in prime time the same as the American networks that we already get OTA.Thats why there is a null towards the US border for protection of the American networks.
---Windsorites don't need the news on Global bc its Toronto news and most don't have an interest in it since TO is 5 hrs away.
---And lastly ….the reason why the CRTC shuns subchannels is bc they don't want to give a better free alternative to pay tv cable/sat.Companies like Roger and Bell are so high up big gov't's rectum they want the monopolies to continue.
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Re: Channel-Sharing, Canadian Style
Doesn't the Cogeco system in Windsor simsub over Detroit if the programs match? And if so, do they use Global?
I believe Corus, the same people who owns Global, also run the Canadian version of Cartoon Network. All three are competitors in the US, but are actually "sisters" in Canada.
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Re: Channel-Sharing, Canadian Style
Or even in a large city -- since the digital conversion in 2011, many areas of Canada were left with no aerial television. In the case of Newfoundland, only St. John's has two -- CBC and NTV. St. John's lost Radio-Canada when the CBC repeater network closed down, and the rest of Newfoundland lost aerial television after that, plus the closedown of NTV's transmitter network outside St. John's.
Re: Channel-Sharing, Canadian Style
Some large, English speaking cities without many English channels OTA include:rugratsonline wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:04 pmOr even in a large city -- since the digital conversion in 2011, many areas of Canada were left with no aerial television. In the case of Newfoundland, only St. John's has two -- CBC and NTV. St. John's lost Radio-Canada when the CBC repeater network closed down, and the rest of Newfoundland lost aerial television after that, plus the closedown of NTV's transmitter network outside St. John's.
St. Johns, NL
London, ON
Halifax, NS
Saskatoon, SK
Edmonton, AB
"Wanna watch some syndicated slop with very little budget or entertainment value? You got it buddy!"
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- Some Guy from Toledo
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Well most of them surely do better than Alpena MI, which only has 6 channels.Some Guy from Toledo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:25 amI feel sorry for these cities being gimped out like that.
I said most, St. Johns only has 2.
If you're in Canada, the only retro channel you may be able to get OTA is CHCH. But their selection is pathetic compared to Me, Antenna, etc. And their retro shows only air during daytime hours. CTV and CTV 2 also carry Corner Gas, so at least there's that.
Red Green is an underrated gem. And all 300 episodes are on Youtube for free. And not pirated either, it's by the official channel!
"Wanna watch some syndicated slop with very little budget or entertainment value? You got it buddy!"
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-Byron "The Broadcast Butcher" Allen
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Re: Channel-Sharing, Canadian Style
No doubt because CHCH wanted to play the simsub game, just like any other commercial station in Canada.
As for CHCH's coverage, it's not a Canada-wide network, but a station in Hamilton, Ontario with repeaters in London, Ottawa, Sudbury and Sault-Ste Marie, and maybe a couple other cities in Ontario. It is seen on cable in many areas and on satellite nationwide.
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Bottom line is, if your not near the US border of full power stations 98% of folks have cable tv or sat.
A very small percent are OTA and a streaming service or two.
A very small percent are OTA and a streaming service or two.
F**K Trudeau and F**K CBC !!!!
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Re: Channel-Sharing, Canadian Style
At the very least, they could have had CBC/SRC transmitters broadcasting the local majority language in HD and minority language in SD.Splouge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:56 pmI wish the CRTC would treat subchannels as if they were part of the primary station. I would really like to see some Canadian diginets! Maybe CBC could have a Canadian reruns diginet (akin to Me TV, but Canadian). And maybe we could enjoy some SCTV (take off hoser!)
Alas, Canadian cord cutters have it rough if they don't live near the border. (Sorry, Newfoundland!)
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Re: Channel-Sharing, Canadian Style
Would've been nice. People are paying for that technically.innate-in-you wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:05 pmAt the very least, they could have had CBC/SRC transmitters broadcasting the local majority language in HD and minority language in SD.Splouge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:56 pmI wish the CRTC would treat subchannels as if they were part of the primary station. I would really like to see some Canadian diginets! Maybe CBC could have a Canadian reruns diginet (akin to Me TV, but Canadian). And maybe we could enjoy some SCTV (take off hoser!)
Alas, Canadian cord cutters have it rough if they don't live near the border. (Sorry, Newfoundland!)