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Impeachment

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Re: Impeachment

Post by screen glare » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:50 am

I love it. Republicans now telling Trump and his supporters to can the conspiracy theories being used as Trump defense.



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Re: Impeachment

Post by Mr.Transistor » Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:20 am

One thing I will say no matter where you stand it is NEVER Ok for the President to imply the threat of a civil war if this impeachment thing goes thru. This is inviting chaos and all the wackos out there to come to his defense. Totally unacceptable!



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Re: Impeachment

Post by Honeyman » Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:50 am

Mr.Transistor wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:20 am
One thing I will say no matter where you stand it is NEVER Ok for the President to imply the threat of a civil war if this impeachment thing goes thru. This is inviting chaos and all the wackos out there to come to his defense. Totally unacceptable!


The invocation of a civil war was met with outrage from Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., an Air Force veteran who served in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“I have visited nations ravaged by civil war,” Kinzinger tweeted, tagging Trump’s Twitter handle. “I have never imagined such a quote to be repeated by a President. This is beyond repugnant.”



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Re: Impeachment

Post by Mr.Transistor » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:42 am

I am more disturbed by his statement regarding civil war than what was in the transcript. It is Irresponsible for him to say such a thing and it seems to be a dog whistle.



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Re: Impeachment

Post by Lester The Nightfly » Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:01 pm

It's also troubling that Trump would broach the idea of arresting a member of Congress that is investigating him.

"Rep. Adam Schiff illegally made up a FAKE & terrible statement, pretended it to be mine as the most important part of my call to the Ukrainian President, and read it aloud to Congress and the American people. It bore NO relationship to what I said on the call. Arrest for Treason?"



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Re: Impeachment

Post by TheForce » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:54 pm

Hate to say it, but I think this guy is senile. I admit he's been fairly effective. But at what cost? This is the most unpresidential president I have ever seen. Outside of the box is good to an extent, however. Further those endless tweets stirring the pot is insane. Could you imagine Reagan or Bush doing things like that? I think not. Honestly, regardless of what his supporters think, I think he's a total embarrassment. And this is coming from somebody who voted for him. Come election times I don't know what will happen. I kinda want this presidential circus to end but at the same time, I don't care for any of his opponents. Should be interesting.



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Re: Impeachment

Post by Mr.Transistor » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:26 pm

The mental breakdown on twitter might be the final straw. To imply a civil war might take place is completely irresponsible. I can't stand any of his opponents and the only one I could stomach somewhat is Biden who has been outed as a crook. Should be interesting is correct.



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Re: Impeachment

Post by Lester The Nightfly » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:01 pm

bmw wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:42 am
"I was not a direct witness to most of the events described."

That is what in the legal system is known as hearsay. It is generally inadmissible.

And just who are all these unnamed officials?

I don't really see anything more in the complain that we didn't already know from the released transcript of the phone call itself.
The IC Inspector General just contradicted the notion that it was hearsay:

(the whistle blower had) “...direct knowledge of certain alleged conduct, and that the Complainant has subject matter expertise related to much of the material information provided”.

More fun, turns out Pompeo was on the Ukrainian call that Trump had after feigning any knowledge about it.
Pompeo to ABC News:

“You just gave me a report about a IC whistleblower complaint, none of which I’ve seen,”
“I think I saw a statement from the Ukrainian foreign minister yesterday [that] said there was no pressure applied in the course of the conversation.”

But wait, there's more. Barr was putting the squeeze on Australia to suss out the origins of what lead to the Mueller report (likely looking for ammo to discredit it)

Tick.. tick.. tick



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Re: Impeachment

Post by hanson » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:43 pm

Do the republicans have a backup candidate for 2020?



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Re: Impeachment

Post by screen glare » Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:49 pm

Yes .
Pence for Prez

(Nikki) Haley for VP



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Re: Impeachment

Post by screen glare » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:37 pm

OK so now one of you says you think Trump’s wild behavior and words indicate he is senile.

Why don’t you get it? He is mentally ill with Narcissistic Personality DISORDER. Look it up in the DSM-5. He fits each and every symptom. Which is not a coincidence. He even perfectly and classically fits the phenomenon known as Narcissistic Rage. Look it up.

Trump always was mentally ill, and is still mentally ill. And every professional psychotherapist who has pointed this out and tried to warn voters has also warned - his symptoms will only intensify. Which is what you’re seeing now.

Wake up time, Trump supporters. You’ve placed a real and present danger in as Commander in Chief and Leader of The Free World. Who will not leave the presidency in a dignified and calm way - as Michael Cohen warned at the end of his congressional testimony.



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Re: Impeachment

Post by Mr.Transistor » Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:37 pm

Interesting take from Judge Napolitano

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/napolitano- ... dangerous/



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Re: Impeachment

Post by TC Talks » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:11 pm

What's Ol' Mitch McConnel up to these days? He's usually quite vocal.


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Re: Impeachment

Post by screen glare » Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:57 pm

Mitch and pro-China, cabinet secretary wife - with her wealthy Chinese national extended family member’s interests to consider - mull every possible political path and political outcome re Trump’s obvious derangement. And - how best the two of them and her extended family can benefit - both financially, and political power-wise.

Currently - Mitch knows Trump is toast - by Trump’s own sick words and actions. Thus - Mitch calculates it is time to elevate President Pence and a new vice president - before Trump smears Pence more than he already has - as wild man Trump spreads blame.

The question McConnell and Chow are considering is - how best to rapidly accomplish that goal. Because the election looms. And time is short to get the voters used to a president Pence and shortly after - candidate Pence.

Maybe Mitch will get a private message to Pelosi that the Senate will convict? Simply impeach Trump ASAP to get his crazy ass off the world stage quickly - and leave him for the SDNY pros?

The longer the wait - the more Pence gets dragged into Trump’s muddy pig pen.

Trump - especially this week - has publicly proven to be uncontrollable. He isn’t just messing with politics. He’s actually threatening to take down trust in our free elections - which will destroy our entire government. Trump has set a lawless precedent for the US presidency that must not stand - if we are to enjoy the government we still have under our sacred Constitution.

Of course Putin is thrilled with our destruction from within - but even he is trying to figure out how to rid himself of unreliable, crazed Trump - and quickly get control of President Pence.
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Re: Impeachment

Post by Honeyman » Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:14 pm

You wonder if that would be so bad for the Republicans. The conservatives with a brain that wouldn't vote for the orange lunatic would certainly vote for Pence. Getting him in office sooner-than-later might make him appear presidential come November 2020. Maybe some national catastrophe hapepns and the country rallies around him.

Only thing for absolute certainty.....Trump ain't gonna go quietly.



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