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WNWO (NBC) Toledo granted FCC license for new 275 kW DTV transmitter.

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Re: WNWO (NBC) Toledo granted FCC license for new 275 kW DTV transmitter.

Post by fuzzpower » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:54 am

I believe there’s still an LPTV in Detroit on 23, so if they’ve increased power, it hasn’t helped my area. I can even pick up WUPW to a degree, but nothing on WNWO.



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Re: WNWO (NBC) Toledo granted FCC license for new 275 kW DTV transmitter.

Post by WOHO » Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:20 am

I don't think WNWO has increased the power yet- can anyone confirm that?



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Re: WNWO (NBC) Toledo granted FCC license for new 275 kW DTV transmitter.

Post by YpsiGuy » Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:30 am

I haven’t seen the signal boost yet. They are licensed for it now with the FCC. I would guess they are still working on the equipment/transmitter.



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Re: WNWO (NBC) Toledo granted FCC license for new 275 kW DTV transmitter.

Post by Gerald1981! » Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:23 pm

fuzzpower, it is a LPTV station in Detroit on RF 23 (WUDT). They're supposed to move back to RF 8 a while ago.



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Post by YpsiGuy » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:45 pm

No power boost yet. Sinclair incompetence at work, again.



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Re: WNWO (NBC) Toledo granted FCC license for new 275 kW DTV transmitter.

Post by innate-in-you » Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:49 pm

WOHO wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:18 pm
Hindsight is 20/20; WTOL and WTVG would have been better served with their old UHF CH 17 and CH19 transitional HDTV signals which had pretty decent coverage with just rabbit ears. Yes, it's nice to maintain your VHF heritage frequency that you've had since 1948/1958, but rabbit ears don't do so well inside on the VHF signals like they do on UHF, so 11 and 13 are at a disadvantage with the rabbit ears and 75% of all antennae sold in stores is designed for only the UHF band and VHF is overlooked by many. WGTE has a pretty decent signal over Toledo, and with WNWO's increase they might match that coverage. I believe that WNWO previously did a 'beam tilt' to improve coverage to a degree?
But, if WTOL and WTVG had not returned to their original RF channels, Northwest Ohio counties would lose some viewers who have been watching them through their all-channel antennas on tall towers in cities like Bryan and Defiance.



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Re: WNWO (NBC) Toledo granted FCC license for new 275 kW DTV transmitter.

Post by CurlyHoward » Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:01 pm

Like Bryan and Defiance had electricity in 1958 lol



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Re: WNWO (NBC) Toledo granted FCC license for new 275 kW DTV transmitter.

Post by innate-in-you » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:44 pm

CurlyHoward wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:01 pm
Like Bryan and Defiance had electricity in 1958 lol
It was 1956. I was the first operator to turn the magneto crank😁



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Post by WOHO » Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:19 am

When TV13 went on the air in 1948, there was likely no 'lectricity' out there yet, and with WSPD-TV's tower downtown (on the iHeart compound), that freestanding tower probably only provided coverage to the City of Toledo and it's borders at that time (Oregon Township, Adams Township, Washington Township, Trilby). WTOL in 1958 might have been one of the first to put a tall stick out in the Oregon tower farms where most of the Toledo's market towers reside? (along with K100, 98.3 and WIOT)



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Re: WNWO (NBC) Toledo granted FCC license for new 275 kW DTV transmitter.

Post by innate-in-you » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:25 am

Toledo Radio Died wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:36 pm
Never understood why Toledo television stations broadcast with such low power? Is this an error by the FCC?
Toledo vs. Dayton, mind you these are both midsize cities.
Now Dayton area has much more terrain versus Toledo area which is mostly flat. However on the radio side it seems like Toledo stations travel better than the Dayton stations do, when driving up and down on I-75.

All Dayton station’s are on the UHF band.

WTOL 11 ERP 16.9 kW/ WHIO 7 ERP 854 kW (I understand that WTOL is on a VHF frequency , WTOL should’ve never given up UHF).

WTVG 13 ERP 16.7 kW/ WKEF 22 ERP 950 kW (WTVG is also on a VHF)

WNWO 24 ERP 275 kW/ WDTN 2 ERP 1,000 kW (Both are on UHF; Nice rise for WNWO but 275kW isn’t squat compared to 1,000 kW.)

WGTE 30 ERP 49.5 kW/ WPTO 16 ERP 250 kW

WUPW 36 ERP 65 kW/ WRGT 45 ERP 1,000 kW (WRGT Quite a considerable amount of power over WUPW)
Do keep in mind that VHF stations in Zone I have historically reduce ERP should the transmit their signal more than 305m above average terrain - if they choose to transmit from higher than 305m HAAT, they'll need to reduce power to compensate.

WNWO is UHF, and is not limited to 305m, in fact, they are well above that, transmitting from the tallest tower in the state.

(DTV may have changed some UHF rules - I'm not sure if they would be able to take that ERP level and antenna height all the way up. To 610m.



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Re: WNWO (NBC) Toledo granted FCC license for new 275 kW DTV transmitter.

Post by Some Guy from Toledo » Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:19 pm

Speaking of WNWO, I noticed they replaced Stadium with Charge! on one of its subchannels. Not a total loss I thought (Stadium is offered on several streaming platforms).



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Re: WNWO (NBC) Toledo granted FCC license for new 275 kW DTV transmitter.

Post by radioandtventhusiast » Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:40 pm

Some Guy from Toledo wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:19 pm
Speaking of WNWO, I noticed they replaced Stadium with Charge! on one of its subchannels. Not a total loss I thought (Stadium is offered on several streaming platforms).
When did that happen?



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Post by WOHO » Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:59 pm

Would rather have "Antenna TV" on WNWO's subchannels



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Re: WNWO (NBC) Toledo granted FCC license for new 275 kW DTV transmitter.

Post by Some Guy from Toledo » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:47 pm

radioandtventhusiast wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:40 pm
Some Guy from Toledo wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:19 pm
Speaking of WNWO, I noticed they replaced Stadium with Charge! on one of its subchannels. Not a total loss I thought (Stadium is offered on several streaming platforms).
When did that happen?
Must've been a few days ago. Buckeye Broadband already has the new logo up and such.
WOHO wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:59 pm
Would rather have "Antenna TV" on WNWO's subchannels
Would've been nice. WMNT-CD could replace their channel with Buzzr for instance.



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Re: WNWO (NBC) Toledo granted FCC license for new 275 kW DTV transmitter.

Post by TeddyBear » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:44 pm

Some Guy from Toledo wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:47 pm
radioandtventhusiast wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:40 pm
Some Guy from Toledo wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:19 pm
Speaking of WNWO, I noticed they replaced Stadium with Charge! on one of its subchannels. Not a total loss I thought (Stadium is offered on several streaming platforms).
When did that happen?
Must've been a few days ago. Buckeye Broadband already has the new logo up and such.
WOHO wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:59 pm
Would rather have "Antenna TV" on WNWO's subchannels
Would've been nice. WMNT-CD could replace their channel with Buzzr for instance.
Strange. 2 nights ago it was still Stadium. They need to get rid of TBD. The TBD crap is found everywhere else for free on the internet, apps and IPTV. It's kinda like someone using shortwave to broadcast Hawaii Five-O. TBD only has a short lifespan anyhow. Within 10 yrs TBD wil be forgotten, like "Evolution" dance radio was on all the Kiss FMs (Now 94.-9 The Beat in Toledo). Internet is the future.


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