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Lima's 940 WCIT Drops Sports

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Re: Lima's 940 WCIT Drops Sports

Post by CK-722 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:48 am

They still have to protect the vacant 940 allotment in Montreal. It might be a slightly smaller area to protect, because CINW used shorter antennas. No protection is needed for their signal outside of Canada though. And WWJ I believe.

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Re: Lima's 940 WCIT Drops Sports

Post by Myron Falwell » Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:09 am

WZRC 1067 wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:02 am
250 watts and 6 watts at night, not much you can do with it. Seems like nothing has lasted. Urban, Oldies, News/talk, Sports, etc... . With CInw gone, could 940 increase there power now? They likely won't.
Unless the 1941 NARBA treaty is renegotiated, 940 is still reserved as a Canadian class 1-A frequency. (IIRC, the CTRC still recognizes 1190 Fort Wayne and 1510 Spokane as US class 1-As, despite WOWO and KGA formally giving up said statuses.) And that would have been the case if the CTRC didn't license a station to take CINW's place. Most stations on the 1570 graveyard still have to protect XERB even though that station is far from it's old 100kW signal.

In any event, 940 is now currently occupied by CFNV, which took waaaay longer than expected to launch.

The FM signal will be consistent and not subject to a massive power cutback at sunset, which in 940's case, does directly affect the immediate listening area. WGRP 940 in Greenville PA has to cut back to two watts at night, but that is fortunately enough to cover Greenville proper (and they too now have an FM translator).



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Re: Lima's 940 WCIT Drops Sports

Post by Myron Falwell » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:58 am

....aaaaaaaaaaaand it's classic country, "The Legend 98.5". Still a safe move, easily flanks WFGF. Utilizing Local Radio Networks for the voice-tracked jocks.

Thankfully Forever sold it long ago, or they'd be stuck with the silly "Willy" brand.



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Re: Lima's 940 WCIT Drops Sports

Post by WZRC 1067 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:28 pm

I was getting 940 in decently here in Perrysburg tday, I was hoping for Urban honestly, as there is such a big hole in Lima for it.

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Re: Lima's 940 WCIT Drops Sports

Post by CK-722 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:09 pm

They only have to protect 1570 to the Mexican border though. There never was much skywave from it in Michigan. Probably because it rarely ran anywhere near full power.

In the old days, stations on Canadian Class I-As for the most part had to be protected with no more than 5 microvolts per meter Ground Wave and 25 uV/m 10% Skywave at any point on the Canadian Border. 940 was a exception as a
I-B. WITL 1010 and WABX 990 were still protecting the border to 5 uV/m when they turned in their licenses. CFRB is still considered Class A to Canada even though it gets much interference from WINS. The skywave just protected the 0.5 mV/m 10% skywave from other assignments, as predicted by the old treaty curves, within Canada. Most of the US stations on Canadian Clear Channels were limited to 1 kW, and 5 kW with special permission.

See Pages around 1-9 in this link for rules in place in 1960.

https://www.americanradiohistory.com/Ar ... tion-2.pdf

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Re: Lima's 940 WCIT Drops Sports

Post by Toledo Radio Died » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:33 pm

Smart Move!! There is definitely a hole in the Lima market for a Classic Country. There’s all these stations playing Top 40 Country but no one to play classic country. However I do strongly agree with all of you Lima does need a Urban formatted station. How about flipping 93.1, 104.9 or 106.3 even though it’s a rimshot. Sports talk is such a waste of a frequency (unless it’s a major market) also why does Lima need 2 crusty classic rock stations that play the same 200 songs over and over? WCIT does gets out pretty well I was listening to them from just north of Dayton all the way up into Toledo.



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Re: Lima's 940 WCIT Drops Sports

Post by WZRC 1067 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:48 pm

104.9 is boring and repetitious. 106.3 from Findlay? I dunno about that but 104.9 would be perfect!


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Re: Lima's 940 WCIT Drops Sports

Post by JGP1954 » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:23 pm

Adding to my post...I recall the owner was named Rice or Riggs, I don't recall. But, he had zero creativity. Both stations were bad. But, Lima only had four station back then. WCIT/WLSR? and WIMA-AM/FM. So, it wasn't hard to make money.



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Re: Lima's 940 WCIT Drops Sports

Post by Toledo Radio Died » Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:57 pm

104.9 Would make more sense because it directly service Lima. I still like the idea of 93.1 because you can name it 93 JAMZ Lima all weekend HOLLA!!! lol



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Re: Lima's 940 WCIT Drops Sports

Post by WOHO » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:41 pm

That was my suggestion; ramp up the power on 940 to 1KW and accept a noisy night contour. We need to beat on the radio manufacturers, because before NRSC, AM radio could, and sometimes DID sound better than FM stations, just ask Dr. Leonard Kahn who said just that - he knew of a couple of AM stations testing out at 18KHz audio while FM was strapped at 15KHz. There's no reason that they can't make am AM radio with a half dozen noise blanker patterns (including neighboring HD IBOC Buzz) and run variable bandwidth where a strong local could still have 7.5KHz audio bandwidth, even up to the full 10.2Khz with CQUAM stereo.
When I was 12 I could still hear out past 16KHz, but KOSS headphones with 50W in them did a number on my eardrum hairs, so AM music works for me IF you have a nice AM radio, like the 1995 Caddy UX-1 dual bandwidth AM Sterero radio, or the 1999 Chrysler RAZ 3 band EQ stereo, etc.....



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