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Toledo Station For Sale

Post by JGP1954 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:28 pm

This just in....there's a FOR SALE sign on a Toledo AM/FM combination, with 20 acres of land for $635,000. Any guesses, what station? I believe WPAY sold for a lot less months ago.



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Re: Toledo Station For Sale

Post by TeddyBear » Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:18 pm

CSN 1560 AND 99.5? But there's not land. I'm saying WJYM 730 and 106.9. The hint you gave was WPAY. Station is clearly on that same level. The acreage is 24.


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Re: Toledo Station For Sale

Post by Heathcliff » Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:29 am

I didn't know 730 had a FM translator? . Got to be 730am. 1560 is still on Cumulus property as far as I know. 1520am, still waiting for Fusion to take over.


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Re: Toledo Station For Sale

Post by TeddyBear » Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:08 am

Heathcliff wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:29 am
I didn't know 730 had a FM translator? . Got to be 730am. 1560 is still on Cumulus property as far as I know. 1520am, still waiting for Fusion to take over.
It's still a CP, but they have the freq.

Someone shoulda made the question allot harder to guess.


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Re: Toledo Station For Sale

Post by CurlyHoward » Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:49 pm

WRONG. The am is a revived 1470 on an omni-directional signal that will only air Tigers games and the Polka Party. With the revived WLQR call letters it is guaranteed to get higher ratings than CKLW of 1970.



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Re: Toledo Station For Sale

Post by TeddyBear » Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:55 pm

CurlyHoward wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:49 pm
WRONG. The am is a revived 1470 on an omni-directional signal that will only air Tigers games and the Polka Party. With the revived WLQR call letters it is guaranteed to get higher ratings than CKLW of 1970.
And the FM part? Q105 is not for sale.


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Re: Toledo Station For Sale

Post by Heathcliff » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:37 am

1470am, this ones never going to die on here lol. 730am sounds really good, sound wise here in Wood Co Ohio. Now the programing is another story.


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Re: Toledo Station For Sale

Post by TeddyBear » Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:49 am

Heathcliff wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:37 am
1470am, this ones never going to die on here lol. 730am sounds really good, sound wise here in Wood Co Ohio. Now the programing is another story.
Well, folks in NW Ohio (including Toiletto) are still stuck in 1978. Don't forget to watch "Happy Days" and "Laverne and Shirley" Tuesday on ABC! Also, lets not forget Dimension Shampoo at the store too! That's why the current radio and TV is so bad. Old skool thinking. Should not surprise you.


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Re: Toledo Station For Sale

Post by radioandtventhusiast » Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:01 pm

Heathcliff wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:37 am
1470am, this ones never going to die on here lol. 730am sounds really good, sound wise here in Wood Co Ohio. Now the programing is another story.
730 is mostly static on my Bose Wave Radio in northwest Toledo.



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Re: Toledo Station For Sale

Post by TeddyBear » Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:20 pm

radioandtventhusiast wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:01 pm
Heathcliff wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:37 am
1470am, this ones never going to die on here lol. 730am sounds really good, sound wise here in Wood Co Ohio. Now the programing is another story.
730 is mostly static on my Bose Wave Radio in northwest Toledo.
There could be many factors to you not getting it. AM is sensitive to any current, radiation, objects, etc. Let's not forget that insulation does come with foil on it too. Metal siding on a trailer too. Beams? Fluorescent or LED lights, electric boxes, electric wires in or out, ... Then location, location, location. Day or night? Direction your antenna/radio is oriented. NW Toiletto is in or close to the city popcorn shaped pattern. This graphic may not be exact, but close.

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Re: Toledo Station For Sale

Post by MWmetalhead » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:04 pm

That is easily the most insane daytime coverage pattern for an AM station I've ever seen!

With a pattern like that, it cannot be considered a viable Toledo metro signal. There are definitely sizable areas on the north side of town where the signal is garbage.


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Re: Toledo Station For Sale

Post by radioandtventhusiast » Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:51 pm

TeddyBear wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:20 pm
radioandtventhusiast wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:01 pm
Heathcliff wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:37 am
1470am, this ones never going to die on here lol. 730am sounds really good, sound wise here in Wood Co Ohio. Now the programing is another story.
730 is mostly static on my Bose Wave Radio in northwest Toledo.
There could be many factors to you not getting it. AM is sensitive to any current, radiation, objects, etc. Let's not forget that insulation does come with foil on it too. Metal siding on a trailer too. Beams? Fluorescent or LED lights, electric boxes, electric wires in or out, ... Then location, location, location. Day or night? Direction your antenna/radio is oriented. NW Toiletto is in or close to the city popcorn shaped pattern. This graphic may not be exact, but close.

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That might explain the problems. It might be able to be picked up in cars. For a station that doesn't come in well in parts of Toledo, if a niche station were to ever happen in Toledo, a different frequency would be better.



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Re: Toledo Station For Sale

Post by WOHO » Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:56 pm

I wonder why WJYM (if that's who we're talking about) doesn't open up its signal up north? There is no CHYR anymore, so who do they have to protect, short of first adjacent WGN? Did not know about the 106.9 translator, which sucks, because that is about the only clear frequency you can use for an FM modulator in T-town. Are you s***ting me, $635K for essentially only a 1959 AM station? WPAY has all new towers, new transmitter (well, built this century at least) and sold for a whole lot less. Guess I should have jumped on 1520 for that for my niche music channel which already has a functional translator (is 104.1 K-Loves, or theirs?).
Andy Stuart, wherever you are, f**ked me on 1470 turning-in the license before you could even do a study on a 500w Omni signal with a Perrysburg COL, as he wanted to screw the Dickey Brothers personally, since they owned the Pickle Road land and were leasing the station back to Cumulus. City of Oregon paid those boys way to much for their land. Also, 730 ground conductivity has to be total sheet, sitting on top of 2 stone quarries in Lime City (unless they could use that railroad track as a ground radial).

What did 106.5 sell for? 730 sure ain't gonna pull that kind of cash with a Bowling Green COL pattern and Toledo out of the picture every 4 blocks?



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Re: Toledo Station For Sale

Post by Colonel Flagg » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:35 am

WOHO wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:56 pm
I wonder why WJYM (if that's who we're talking about) doesn't open up its signal up north? There is no CHYR anymore, so who do they have to protect, short of first adjacent WGN? Did not know about the 106.9 translator, which sucks, because that is about the only clear frequency you can use for an FM modulator in T-town. Are you s***ting me, $635K for essentially only a 1959 AM station? WPAY has all new towers, new transmitter (well, built this century at least) and sold for a whole lot less. Guess I should have jumped on 1520 for that for my niche music channel which already has a functional translator (is 104.1 K-Loves, or theirs?).
Andy Stuart, wherever you are, f**ked me on 1470 turning-in the license before you could even do a study on a 500w Omni signal with a Perrysburg COL, as he wanted to screw the Dickey Brothers personally, since they owned the Pickle Road land and were leasing the station back to Cumulus. City of Oregon paid those boys way to much for their land. Also, 730 ground conductivity has to be total sheet, sitting on top of 2 stone quarries in Lime City (unless they could use that railroad track as a ground radial).

What did 106.5 sell for? 730 sure ain't gonna pull that kind of cash with a Bowling Green COL pattern and Toledo out of the picture every 4 blocks?
1470 omni would have been limited to daytime only, and 500 watts is probably optimistic.

I still prefer the 730 facility. It seems to hit all of the right zip codes where what little population growth that's occurring in the Toledo metro is happening. The Fremont Pike transmitter site, I believe, was built in the 1970s. The original WMGS site was south of Bowling Green, and is still there, repurposed by one of the cable companies, if I recall correctly. WMGS was a country music station, with much of it's revenue coming from AG related businesses. 730 blasts the I-75 corridor at night. I've heard it as far south as Wapakoneta, well after dark. Very unique facility, many pros and cons as to what it can do.


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Re: Toledo Station For Sale

Post by ChrisWL1980 » Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:53 pm

WOHO wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:56 pm
I wonder why WJYM (if that's who we're talking about) doesn't open up its signal up north? There is no CHYR anymore, so who do they have to protect, short of first adjacent WGN? Did not know about the 106.9 translator, which sucks, because that is about the only clear frequency you can use for an FM modulator in T-town. Are you s***ting me, $635K for essentially only a 1959 AM station? WPAY has all new towers, new transmitter (well, built this century at least) and sold for a whole lot less. Guess I should have jumped on 1520 for that for my niche music channel which already has a functional translator (is 104.1 K-Loves, or theirs?).
Andy Stuart, wherever you are, f**ked me on 1470 turning-in the license before you could even do a study on a 500w Omni signal with a Perrysburg COL, as he wanted to screw the Dickey Brothers personally, since they owned the Pickle Road land and were leasing the station back to Cumulus. City of Oregon paid those boys way to much for their land. Also, 730 ground conductivity has to be total sheet, sitting on top of 2 stone quarries in Lime City (unless they could use that railroad track as a ground radial).

What did 106.5 sell for? 730 sure ain't gonna pull that kind of cash with a Bowling Green COL pattern and Toledo out of the picture every 4 blocks?
WVFN East Lansing also operates on 730kc.



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