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Grayling Rocker

Covers all of Northern Lower Michigan (from Ludington to Tawas northward), as well as the Straits Area and Soo Region.
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Re: Grayling Rocker

Post by bobhuge » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:24 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:04 pm
Classic Rock is usually limited to 500 - 800 songs. This playlist is closer to 3000 songs... It's freeform or AOR.
Classic Rock has no limit to song count; that is placed upon it by the programming entity. Although, I would agree with AOR. ;)



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Re: Grayling Rocker

Post by TC Talks » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:01 pm

bobhuge wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:24 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:04 pm
Classic Rock is usually limited to 500 - 800 songs. This playlist is closer to 3000 songs... It's freeform or AOR.
Classic Rock has no limit to song count; that is placed upon it by the programming entity. Although, I would agree with AOR. ;)
Most consultants would disagree. Tightly tested libraries are the only way to go...


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Re: Grayling Rocker

Post by bobhuge » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:48 am

TC Talks wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:01 pm
bobhuge wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:24 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:04 pm
Classic Rock is usually limited to 500 - 800 songs. This playlist is closer to 3000 songs... It's freeform or AOR.
Classic Rock has no limit to song count; that is placed upon it by the programming entity. Although, I would agree with AOR. ;)
Most consultants would disagree. Tightly tested libraries are the only way to go...
Yes that is correct, BUT there is no limit to song count in a genre or format. WWO may have a 700 song rotation and Cumulus may have an 800 song count, but that doesn’t affect what they choose from, only what they choose. Both are still classic rock, just different programmers.

What music is played defines the format, not how many songs are played.



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Re: Grayling Rocker

Post by bobhuge » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:50 am

TC Talks wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:01 pm
bobhuge wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:24 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:04 pm
Classic Rock is usually limited to 500 - 800 songs. This playlist is closer to 3000 songs... It's freeform or AOR.
Classic Rock has no limit to song count; that is placed upon it by the programming entity. Although, I would agree with AOR. ;)
Most consultants would disagree. Tightly tested libraries are the only way to go...
Additionally, classic rock is generally defined based on which chart a song lands,



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Re: Grayling Rocker

Post by TC Talks » Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:24 pm

As someone who helped flip the second Classic Rock station in the US, I disagree with your assessment.


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Re: Grayling Rocker

Post by bobhuge » Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:33 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:24 pm
As someone who helped flip the second Classic Rock station in the US, I disagree with your assessment.
As some one who can read a defintion, I disagree. 😊



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Re: Grayling Rocker

Post by TC Talks » Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:48 pm

Bob,

Who's definition? Everyone has an opinion, but some are useless. Give WCSX or Jacobs Communications a call and try arguing your point. Otherwise, Classic Rock is a tightly managed list of songs that charted 17 years or longer ago (with some exceptions). But perhaps you folks out on the Thumb know better...


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Re: Grayling Rocker

Post by Realist » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:20 pm

TC -

I listened to Bob’s station online yesterday for the first time in a while (I can pick them up OTA somewhat depending on weather conditions). Heard Tonic’s “Open up your eyes” being played. Haven’t heard that song in a long time but it’s 15+ years old. I like that oh wow factor like that - something that went away after Sirius took over my choice of XM
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Re: Grayling Rocker

Post by MWmetalhead » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:23 pm

Are you sure Tantric has a song with that title? There was an obscure post-grunge band from the mid or late 90's with a song by that title (KLQ used to play it), but I never remember Tantric having a single with that title.

Getting back to WIDL - if its intended audience enjoys the station, that's all that matters at the end of the day.

WCSX's song age is "old" by current day Classic Rock standards, *but* that strategy works EXTREMELY well for them.

Unpredictable stations like WIDL, M-106.3 in Greenville and Sunny 97.3 in Big Rapids are what make small town radio great! :)


Memo to WGRD: You need to sound a LOT more like your phenomenal sister station in Davenport, IA.

I-Rock 93.5 f*cking rules!!! https://irock935.com/playlist/

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Re: Grayling Rocker

Post by Realist » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:02 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:23 pm
Are you sure Tantric has a song with that title? There was an obscure post-grunge band from the mid or late 90's with a song by that title (KLQ used to play it), but I never remember Tantric having a single with that title.
You’re right - just did further digging - it’s by the band Tonic. Memory is the second thing to go 😂😂😂



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Re: Grayling Rocker

Post by MWmetalhead » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:21 pm

Tonic!! That's indeed who it is!

Was going nuts trying to remember who sang that song. :)

"If You Could Only See" was Tonic's big hit. Still hear that one on Sirius XM regularly. I think 93.9 The River plays that tune on occasion, too. Ditto 107.1 in Ann Arbor.


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Re: Grayling Rocker

Post by Deleted User 10525 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:34 pm

That and Open up your eyes. 2 hit wonder, then they faded into obscurity



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Re: Grayling Rocker

Post by Ed Joseph » Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:11 pm

Most consultants would disagree. Tightly tested libraries are the only way to go...
Consultants are generally why terrestrial radio sucks so bad in general. Consultants suck the life out of any format they touch. There are a few good ones, but there are TONS of crappy ones out there.


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Re: Grayling Rocker

Post by Ed Joseph » Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:19 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:23 pm
Getting back to WIDL - if its intended audience enjoys the station, that's all that matters at the end of the day.
Unpredictable stations like WIDL, M-106.3 in Greenville and Sunny 97.3 in Big Rapids are what make small town radio great! :)
THIS! And I, for one, cannot wait until there are MORE locally-owned and programmed stations to listen to. I'm beyond sick of hearing the same couple hundred songs over and over and over. Sure, working on-air helped burn them out even worse that a normal man, but ALL my "non-radio infected" friends complain that stations sound stale because they hear the same songs endlessly. All the polish in the world doesn't make up for the fact listeners are sick of your station's music and hit the button often. That's the way *I* see it anyways.


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Re: Grayling Rocker

Post by Ed Joseph » Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:28 pm

1027BrianFM wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:34 pm
That and Open up your eyes. 2 hit wonder, then they faded into obscurity
Not so fast... I have several Tonic singles that had decent airplay. "Casual Affair", "You Wanted More", and "Knock Down Walls" all had pretty good Rock airplay. "Mean to Me" got played for a while, but I don't recall it charting in the US.


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