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News Fail

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audiophile
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News Fail

Post by audiophile » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:41 am

A certain tri-cities media website puts the new story of William Milliken on third row, but the prominent lead story is the CEO of Planned Parenthood speaking at some unknown conference in Detroit next week?

eieiooo...


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Re: News Fail

Post by R Bedell » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:29 pm

Hell, there is "news fail" 24/7/365. I seen what you are describing, and that is only the tip of the iceberg.



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Re: News Fail

Post by lovinlife101 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:51 am

I don’t think I can agree any more with the two above posts.

Local news is an unfunny joke.

Constant spelling errors, constant factual errors, and they think it’s just fine while high-fiving each other when they “win” a local version of a national award they all pay for.

Ignorance!



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Re: News Fail

Post by organman95 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:09 am

It's about getting the story out quick. Fast-paced society doesn't wait.

Proofreading is not as precise as it used to be.



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Re: News Fail

Post by lovinlife101 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:02 am

organman95 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:09 am
It's about getting the story out quick. Fast-paced society doesn't wait.

Proofreading is not as precise as it used to be.
I agree with you, orgasmman95, in that viewers want the story out quickly, but they also want it accurately. Both should be considered.



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Re: News Fail

Post by organman95 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:32 am

lovinlife101 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:02 am
I agree with you, orgasmman95, in that viewers want the story out quickly, but they also want it accurately. Both should be considered.
Agreed. But if you hear about a story, and need/want to get it out in say 2 minutes, that isn't much time to truly be accurate - How far back would we have to go in time for the stories to be near-completely accurate?



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Re: News Fail

Post by DAC » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:13 pm

organman95 wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:32 am
lovinlife101 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:02 am
I agree with you, orgasmman95, in that viewers want the story out quickly, but they also want it accurately. Both should be considered.
Agreed. But if you hear about a story, and need/want to get it out in say 2 minutes, that isn't much time to truly be accurate - How far back would we have to go in time for the stories to be near-completely accurate?
All the way back, I think.. If Brink Chetley reported it, you either believed it or you didn't. There wasn't any other choice for validating.



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Re: News Fail

Post by organman95 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:24 am

DAC wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:13 pm
All the way back, I think.. If Brink Chetley reported it, you either believed it or you didn't. There wasn't any other choice for validating.
So we eliminate the internet lol

I think if we were to just let social media do its thing, and take the time to gather the news and decipher correct/incorrect information, as well as proofread the scripts, the news would most likely be significantly better. Even if it took say 20 minutes to broadcast. At least it would be more accurate and not have to make a bunch of corrections.



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Re: News Fail

Post by DAC » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:38 pm

organman95 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:24 am
DAC wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:13 pm
All the way back, I think.. If Brink Chetley reported it, you either believed it or you didn't. There wasn't any other choice for validating.
So we eliminate the internet lol

I think if we were to just let social media do its thing, and take the time to gather the news and decipher correct/incorrect information, as well as proofread the scripts, the news would most likely be significantly better. Even if it took say 20 minutes to broadcast. At least it would be more accurate and not have to make a bunch of corrections.
That would be ideal, but people want everything now, if not 10 minutes ago. Hence news broadcasts at 4 PM, 5 PM, 7PM, 10PM, etc. When it was just noon, 6, and 11, there was at least the illusion that they were spending the rest of the time doing journalist-type things.



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Re: News Fail

Post by lovinlife101 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:31 am

DAC wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:38 pm
organman95 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:24 am
DAC wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:13 pm
All the way back, I think.. If Brink Chetley reported it, you either believed it or you didn't. There wasn't any other choice for validating.
So we eliminate the internet lol

I think if we were to just let social media do its thing, and take the time to gather the news and decipher correct/incorrect information, as well as proofread the scripts, the news would most likely be significantly better. Even if it took say 20 minutes to broadcast. At least it would be more accurate and not have to make a bunch of corrections.
That would be ideal, but people want everything now, if not 10 minutes ago. Hence news broadcasts at 4 PM, 5 PM, 7PM, 10PM, etc. When it was just noon, 6, and 11, there was at least the illusion that they were spending the rest of the time doing journalist-type things.
Are there actual producers and/or executive producers that proofread anything anymore or do they just go with what one person has to say at the moment?



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Re: News Fail

Post by organman95 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:22 am

lovinlife101 wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:31 am
DAC wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:38 pm
That would be ideal, but people want everything now, if not 10 minutes ago. Hence news broadcasts at 4 PM, 5 PM, 7PM, 10PM, etc. When it was just noon, 6, and 11, there was at least the illusion that they were spending the rest of the time doing journalist-type things.
Are there actual producers and/or executive producers that proofread anything anymore or do they just go with what one person has to say at the moment?
From what I've read/slightly recall (I was a kid in the 90s), when the 5 pm newscasts initially started, they were more of a community-oriented news, something like 9&10's "The Four" but only going for a half-hour. Then there was "The 6 PM News" or whatever a station called their newscast. At some point in the late-90s the 5 PM newscasts (I'm still generalizing here) became more of a full newscast similar to the 6 pm, but keeping the "For you" type of segments (Education, health, etc), and expanding to an hour-long program.

Then you have some stations adding a 4 pm, using that original 5 pm format, and now subsequently moving their 5 PM format over as well. The redundancy is not good, in my opinion. Slowly/quickly getting toward a CNN/MSNBC/Fox News/etc 24 hour format.



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Re: News Fail

Post by lovinlife101 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:46 pm

It would be fine if it was done well.



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Re: News Fail

Post by DAC » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:10 pm

lovinlife101 wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:46 pm
It would be fine if it was done well.
I agree. Unfortunately, they want to do more while spending less. The first thing to go down the drain is quality, and I think we see it in pretty much every aspect of local news.



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Re: News Fail

Post by lovinlife101 » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:57 am

DAC wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:10 pm
lovinlife101 wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:46 pm
It would be fine if it was done well.
I agree. Unfortunately, they want to do more while spending less. The first thing to go down the drain is quality, and I think we see it in pretty much every aspect of local news.
Agreed. NBC25/Fox66 has two stations and the fewest employees in the market. Well, three if you count CW46.



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Re: News Fail

Post by organman95 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:27 am

lovinlife101 wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:57 am
Agreed. NBC25/Fox66 has two stations and the fewest employees in the market. Well, three if you count CW46.
I don't see why we need a local 24/7/365 news channel. I know there is WMNN in Cadillac, which I guess is doing relatively well.

As for number of employees at a station... you don't need 100 employees to make a quality product/program. Sometimes less is more/better. Think too many hands in the cookie jar and there could be a real issue.



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