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Post by learn to fly » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:52 am

Right or wrong>the two AC's have gone 100% Xmas.



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Post by Calvert DeForest » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:52 am

Wrong maybe, but no surprise.

Hallmark Movie Channel fired up their Christmas marathon last week.


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Post by MWmetalhead » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:58 am

On the station's home page, could Star's logo possibly be any smaller?! It's as if the folks at iFart don't want the people to know the brand name of the station. :lol

Christmas music in West Michigan has nowhere near the ratings impact it once did. 105.7 barely moved off its long-term AQH share average whereas 100.5 only saw minor ratings gains. Still, it's a format 100.5 & 105.7's P1 listeners probably largely appreciate and expect.

In Kalamazoo last year, 106.5 went all-Christmas around or shortly before Thanksgiving and actually saw its ratings plunge to record low levels (for the WVFM era of the station). Will be interesting to see if they give holiday music another shot this year or not.

For whatever reason, Christmas music performs much, much better in the ratings in places like Detroit and Chicago than West Michigan. Portable People Meter ratings technology might be the key.

105.7 is little more than a replica of Detroit's WNIC these days (105.7 does have a live, local morning show and its music is maybe a smidge more uptempo than 100.3), so it's no surprise they both flipped on the same day at virtually the same time. I suspect both stations are playing the same Christmas songs in the same order.


Lori Bennett and Bob Walker have turned WLAV from an iconic classic rock station into a ratings boondoggle. Sad.

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Post by Mega Hertz » Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:59 pm

Oh for Christ's sake! That's THREE stations I pick up that are all Christmas! WFMK doesn't seem to have made the leap, but in fairness, I don't know if they've done it prior; I only started tuning them in earlier this year. 98.7, 100.3 and now 105.7. Who's next...


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Post by bmw » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:17 pm

The bounds of annual Christmas creep seem to be limitless. Just 10 years ago, Thanksgiving seemed like a barrier. Nope. Now it's Halloween. How long before it creeps towards Labor Day?



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Post by Mega Hertz » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:28 pm

bmw wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:17 pm
The bounds of annual Christmas creep seem to be limitless. Just 10 years ago, Thanksgiving seemed like a barrier. Nope. Now it's Halloween. How long before it creeps towards Labor Day?
Just wait. That 24/7/365 Christmas format is on its way...


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Post by Chris1980 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:44 pm

Mega Hertz wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:59 pm
Oh for Christ's sake! That's THREE stations I pick up that are all Christmas! WFMK doesn't seem to have made the leap, but in fairness, I don't know if they've done it prior; I only started tuning them in earlier this year. 98.7, 100.3 and now 105.7. Who's next...
WFMK has done it the past few years.

WHNN and WRVF haven't flipped yet as of today, but it's only a matter of time. WHNN has flipped as early as Halloween in years past.



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Post by Radio1 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:45 pm

3 stations playing White Christmas. Not that big a deal. Don't we have like 6 stations playing Sweet Home Alabama?



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Post by Mega Hertz » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:00 pm

Chris1980 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:44 pm
Mega Hertz wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:59 pm
Oh for Christ's sake! That's THREE stations I pick up that are all Christmas! WFMK doesn't seem to have made the leap, but in fairness, I don't know if they've done it prior; I only started tuning them in earlier this year. 98.7, 100.3 and now 105.7. Who's next...
WFMK has done it the past few years.

WHNN and WRVF haven't flipped yet as of today, but it's only a matter of time. WHNN has flipped as early as Halloween in years past.
WHNN is spotty, but I get it here. WRVF is a crapshoot. Too much broadcasting on that frequency. Gonna be a LONG couple of months.


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Post by tc » Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:08 am

bmw wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:17 pm
... Just 10 years ago, Thanksgiving seemed like a barrier...
It started in 2001. People were still reeling after the 9/11 attacks, so many AC stations adopted the "because we need a little Christmas now" mentality.



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Post by krafty » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:06 pm

Prior to 2001, at least at CheapChannel, Christmas music started on Thanksgiving. I remember EZ/Star would run a full day of Christmas music on Thanksgiving and black Friday, then return to a mostly normal format. They would insert the music at a growing frequency the closer you got, and then it was full-bore Christmas eve and day.



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Post by blakeharms » Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:18 pm

93.9 WLIT "LITE FM" Chicago just made the switch at 4 PM Central... seems fitting with the seven-day forecast in the midwest.



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Post by Turkeytop » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:18 pm

I can't believe there is anyone that would want to listen to Christmas music this early in the year.


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Post by tc » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:43 am

Turkeytop wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:18 pm
I can't believe there is anyone that would want to listen to Christmas music this early in the year.
I know, it's frustrating that other people like different things!



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Post by Turkeytop » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:16 am

tc wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:43 am
Turkeytop wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:18 pm
I can't believe there is anyone that would want to listen to Christmas music this early in the year.
I know, it's frustrating that other people like different things!

It doesn't frustrate me at all. It just surprises me that such people exist. There's no accounting for taste. Some people like eating squash. Some people like rough sex. Some people like a Harley Davidson.

There are people who don't own a horse or a pickup truck , but like country music. So I suppose it's entirely possible that some people like Christmas music when it isn't even Christmas time. I just haven't met any of them yet.

WFME in New York has Christmas in July every July 25. On that day they play Christmas carols all day.


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