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Company behind contentious Michigan battery factory quietly registered as Chinese foreign agent, filings show

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Re: Company behind contentious Michigan battery factory quietly registered as Chinese foreign agent, filings show

Post by MWmetalhead » Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:21 am

A list of misguided political policies does not equate to Marxism. (And yes, I agree many of the things you listed are problematic from a policy standpoint.)

Cancel culture unto itself is a form of freedom of speech, by the way, when the parties doing the "cancelling" are private citizens or companies.
Arresting and harrassment of political opponents...
So, lawbreakers who happen to be elected officials who espouse rhetoric and adopt policies you like should be given a free pass?

I'll be the first to say there is unequal treatment under the law. That's been the case in this country for centuries.

Last time I checked, the U.S. dollar is significantly stronger than the CDN dollar and fuel per gallon (or litre, if you prefer) is much cheaper here, too, even though energy prices are trending in the wrong direction. There's certainly room for improvement with regard to the U.S. economy, but compared to the vast majority of countries around the world, I'd say our standard of living is pretty darn good.


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Re: Company behind contentious Michigan battery factory quietly registered as Chinese foreign agent, filings show

Post by Rate This » Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:35 am

MWmetalhead wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:21 am
A list of misguided political policies does not equate to Marxism. (And yes, I agree many of the things you listed are problematic from a policy standpoint.)

Cancel culture unto itself is a form of freedom of speech, by the way, when the parties doing the "cancelling" are private citizens or companies.
Arresting and harrassment of political opponents...
So, lawbreakers who happen to be elected officials who espouse rhetoric and adopt policies you like should be given a free pass?

I'll be the first to say there is unequal treatment under the law. That's been the case in this country for centuries.

Last time I checked, the U.S. dollar is significantly stronger than the CDN dollar and fuel per gallon (or litre, if you prefer) is much cheaper here, too, even though energy prices are trending in the wrong direction.
It’s not really a form of free speech unless the government is involved. The first amendment only applies in those specific instances. A company or individual can tell you to shut up because they don’t like you talking bad about them but the governments hands are tied quite a bit more… people seem to have a misconception that the first amendment applies to things other than your interaction with the government or it doing something about what you are saying.
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Re: Company behind contentious Michigan battery factory quietly registered as Chinese foreign agent, filings show

Post by MWmetalhead » Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:39 am

Yes, and a government body barring the company from controlling what speech can or cannot be used on their premises would be an infringement upon that company's freedom of speech.

Hence, my earlier comment about cancel culture. When those doing the "cancelling" are private entities, those private entities are in essence engaging in a form of speech and choosing with whom to associate or dissociate.
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Re: Company behind contentious Michigan battery factory quietly registered as Chinese foreign agent, filings show

Post by Rate This » Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:41 am

MWmetalhead wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:39 am
Yes, and a government body barring the company from controlling what speech can or cannot be used on their premises would be an infringement upon that company's freedom of speech.
Oh that… yes you are absolutely correct.

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Post by Mega Hertz » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:07 am

And Goddamn it anyway, Donald Trump was THIS close to taking down ALL those elites who get the breaks YOU don't. Gosh darn it all to heck.
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Re: Company behind contentious Michigan battery factory quietly registered as Chinese foreign agent, filings show

Post by windsor » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:31 am

Now I fully understand why they call you socialists on the board " the Tolerant Left "..........
F**K Trudeau and F**K CBC !!!!

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Re: Company behind contentious Michigan battery factory quietly registered as Chinese foreign agent, filings show

Post by Deleted User 9015 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:29 am

Cancel culture isn't something that is practiced solely by the left. The religious right practiced it for decades.

The fact of the matter is that its been abused by both sides. Calling it a "left-wing tactic" really does diminish how frequent the right has practiced it in the past.

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Re: Company behind contentious Michigan battery factory quietly registered as Chinese foreign agent, filings show

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:51 pm

windsor wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 9:31 pm
Mega Hertz wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 8:09 pm
windsor wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:12 pm
Neckbeard wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:12 pm
The concern here is that the Chinese will use this plant as a way to spy on Camp Grayling, which is where some Taiwanese soldiers are trained.

I don't trust the Chinese and consider anything they are up to as suspect, but when I mapped it, it was about a two-hour drive from the plant to Camp Grayling, so I really don't think that should be a major concern. Seems like more fear-mongering from FOX News.
You dont have worry about CCP spying on Camp Grayling.

They already know everything they need about Grayling dont worry.

To infiltration is near 100% of DC and your institutions.

When a sitting president can arrest his election opponent and nothing is done to stop it by your judicial or justice system....worrying about Camp Grayling is the least of your worries.

For years on this board I have warned that the marxists were in the gates but was laughed at......get ready for much worse as America and the West are becoming colonies of the CCP.
Can you point to any kind of Marxism in my country? By most standards, this country very center-right in most policies. There is no national Healthcare, no national daycare, people are starving and they work full time jobs, a handful of people own most of everything and again, many don't even have a spare $400 for an emergency. Never mind whatever right-wing scare words that have been used since the 1940s while this country degenerates, let's get to the CENTER. Even moderate Republicans arent far enough to the right anymore. This country keeps moving further to the right, yet there's always some imaginary boogeyman or ISM that's gonna destroy us.
Well sir if you cant see by now that the US is in a marxist cultural revolution which have revved up their operations with the release of the bio weapon and. the 2020 elections I cant help you.

America is being destroyed from within just as Antonio Gramsci told the world communist conspiracy was the only way to destroy the west.He knew the old class warfare would not work but to use a new strategy of the long march through the institutions and use race and gender in place of the classes.

Educate yourself on marxist/lennonist tactics and then you may open your eyes to the war America and the west is in presently.There are many books that explain it in detail like Mark Levins "American Marxism".
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Re: Company behind contentious Michigan battery factory quietly registered as Chinese foreign agent, filings show

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:55 pm

windsor wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:31 am
Now I fully understand why they call you socialists on the board " the Tolerant Left "..........
Burger King, Kraft, Disney, Proctor and Gamble were all boycotted by who in the 90s? Right wing fundy Pharisees “against abortion” and gays..
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Remember that “2000 Mules” was concocted by a circus of elephants.
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Re: Company behind contentious Michigan battery factory quietly registered as Chinese foreign agent, filings show

Post by audiophile » Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:08 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:51 pm
windsor wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 9:31 pm
Mega Hertz wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 8:09 pm
windsor wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:12 pm
Neckbeard wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:12 pm
The concern here is that the Chinese will use this plant as a way to spy on Camp Grayling, which is where some Taiwanese soldiers are trained.

I don't trust the Chinese and consider anything they are up to as suspect, but when I mapped it, it was about a two-hour drive from the plant to Camp Grayling, so I really don't think that should be a major concern. Seems like more fear-mongering from FOX News.
You dont have worry about CCP spying on Camp Grayling.

They already know everything they need about Grayling dont worry.

To infiltration is near 100% of DC and your institutions.

When a sitting president can arrest his election opponent and nothing is done to stop it by your judicial or justice system....worrying about Camp Grayling is the least of your worries.

For years on this board I have warned that the marxists were in the gates but was laughed at......get ready for much worse as America and the West are becoming colonies of the CCP.
Can you point to any kind of Marxism in my country? By most standards, this country very center-right in most policies. There is no national Healthcare, no national daycare, people are starving and they work full time jobs, a handful of people own most of everything and again, many don't even have a spare $400 for an emergency. Never mind whatever right-wing scare words that have been used since the 1940s while this country degenerates, let's get to the CENTER. Even moderate Republicans arent far enough to the right anymore. This country keeps moving further to the right, yet there's always some imaginary boogeyman or ISM that's gonna destroy us.
Well sir if you cant see by now that the US is in a marxist cultural revolution which have revved up their operations with the release of the bio weapon and. the 2020 elections I cant help you.

America is being destroyed from within just as Antonio Gramsci told the world communist conspiracy was the only way to destroy the west.He knew the old class warfare would not work but to use a new strategy of the long march through the institutions and use race and gender in place of the classes.

Educate yourself on marxist/lennonist tactics and then you may open your eyes to the war America and the west is in presently.There are many books that explain it in detail like Mark Levins "American Marxism".
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Re: Company behind contentious Michigan battery factory quietly registered as Chinese foreign agent, filings show

Post by MWmetalhead » Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:09 am

This is truly disgusting behavior by Whitmer and her cronies.

MAJOR KUDOS to the Detroit Free Press (an unlikely critic) for its excellent reporting on this matter!

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 785601007/
Morgan Wallen is a piece of garbage.

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Re: Company behind contentious Michigan battery factory quietly registered as Chinese foreign agent, filings show

Post by km1125 » Thu Sep 14, 2023 4:46 pm

Just surprised that with all the big plants that closed and were tore down after 2009 that there weren't suitable alternatives in one of those locations for these new battery plants.

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Re: Company behind contentious Michigan battery factory quietly registered as Chinese foreign agent, filings show

Post by Graham Wellington » Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:59 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:09 am
This is truly disgusting behavior by Whitmer and her cronies.

MAJOR KUDOS to the Detroit Free Press (an unlikely critic) for its excellent reporting on this matter!

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 785601007/
Should any of us be surprised by more disgusting tactics from her? She will stop at nothing to build her "legacy" and street cred in her progressive circles. That is her priority, and always has been.

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Re: Company behind contentious Michigan battery factory quietly registered as Chinese foreign agent, filings show

Post by Mega Hertz » Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:38 pm

Graham Wellington wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:59 pm
MWmetalhead wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:09 am
This is truly disgusting behavior by Whitmer and her cronies.

MAJOR KUDOS to the Detroit Free Press (an unlikely critic) for its excellent reporting on this matter!

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 785601007/
Should any of us be surprised by more disgusting tactics from her? She will stop at nothing to build her "legacy" and street cred in her progressive circles. That is her priority, and always has been.
Worse yet, she only listens to stations that play KANSAS and BOSTON.
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Re: Company behind contentious Michigan battery factory quietly registered as Chinese foreign agent, filings show

Post by TC Talks » Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:45 pm

Graham Wellington wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:59 pm
MWmetalhead wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:09 am
This is truly disgusting behavior by Whitmer and her cronies.

MAJOR KUDOS to the Detroit Free Press (an unlikely critic) for its excellent reporting on this matter!

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 785601007/
Should any of us be surprised by more disgusting tactics from her? She will stop at nothing to build her "legacy" and street cred in her progressive circles. That is her priority, and always has been.
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