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Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by kager » Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:49 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:35 pm
I'm a bit surprised one (obscure) person's foolish comments have attracted so much attention from the mainstream media.
TC is a small town, but one with a big mouth (Sinclair station in it).

So strike up the band and invite everyone to the circus.


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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by Matt » Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:08 pm

kager wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:49 pm
MWmetalhead wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:35 pm
I'm a bit surprised one (obscure) person's foolish comments have attracted so much attention from the mainstream media.
TC is a small town, but one with a big mouth (Sinclair station in it).

So strike up the band and invite everyone to the circus.
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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by TC Talks » Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:08 pm

bmw wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 2:42 pm
Don't people have better things to do with their time?
Gathered at the city's civic center and outside Studio 8 Hair Lab, demonstrators —joined by Traverse City Mayor Pro-Tem Amy Shamroe— protested Geiger's stance Wednesday, marching, chanting and carrying pro LGBTQ+ signs that said, "Love is love," and "Hate has no home here!"
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 413146007/

TC talks about mental illness being a factor. I would suggest that if the publicly posted opinions of an individual local business owner get your panties in so much of a wad that you feel the need to organize a street protest in front of said business owner's place of work, then you are the one with a mental illness. Don't like what she has to say? Don't go there. It's the same solution as saying "change the dial" when you don't like what someone on TV or radio has to say. People for whom that isn't enough - whom feel the need to organize an angry mob and set out to destroy a person - have a couple of screws loose.
Amy is running for Mayor. Having the lgbtq+ vote will ensure her victory. I also believe it is the a way to let the world know that kkristian and Conservative Catholics need not bother visiting here. They should try the Thumb region.
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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:29 pm

Rate This wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:43 am
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:34 am
kager wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:31 am
The attack surface for anything posted publicly on SocMed is so vague, large and stupid, I'm surprised anybody posts anything that could be considered negative or controversial on it. Gets really rough when the poster is an 'uninformed individual or company' and doesn't consider the unwritten PC rules that SocMed may foist upon you, depending on the direction the wind is blowing at the time.

Yeah, you've got the right to free speech - as long as you keep it to yourself. Or post it on PolPot :blink
Free speech has always come with consequences. She has the right to be socially punished like she has.
But did anybody lift a finger to try to correct or help the woman first? My guess is you folks hit the “socially punish” booth just like all the reporters in Airplane running into the phone booth at once to report the plane story and then the damn thing falls over.
You really don't do a good job at supporting equality. This woman knew exactly what she was doing and now she regrets the impending failure of her business. Self induced and don't feel sorry for her.
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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by Mike » Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:00 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:29 pm
You really don't do a good job at supporting equality. This woman knew exactly what she was doing and now she regrets the impending failure of her business. Self induced and don't feel sorry for her.
Plus as someone operating within the political world (her being a delegate), she would have known that doing what she did was going to draw a not-exactly small level of attention. She was NOT going to go for anyone seeking to "correct" her whatsoever.

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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by Rate This » Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:35 am

Mike wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:00 pm
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:29 pm
You really don't do a good job at supporting equality. This woman knew exactly what she was doing and now she regrets the impending failure of her business. Self induced and don't feel sorry for her.
Plus as someone operating within the political world (her being a delegate), she would have known that doing what she did was going to draw a not-exactly small level of attention. She was NOT going to go for anyone seeking to "correct" her whatsoever.
At which point she should endure the heat of a thousand suns. But if you go straight to it you may or may not give her side of the coin ammunition to throw things back at you.

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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by Rate This » Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:07 am

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:29 pm
Rate This wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:43 am
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:34 am
kager wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:31 am
The attack surface for anything posted publicly on SocMed is so vague, large and stupid, I'm surprised anybody posts anything that could be considered negative or controversial on it. Gets really rough when the poster is an 'uninformed individual or company' and doesn't consider the unwritten PC rules that SocMed may foist upon you, depending on the direction the wind is blowing at the time.

Yeah, you've got the right to free speech - as long as you keep it to yourself. Or post it on PolPot :blink
Free speech has always come with consequences. She has the right to be socially punished like she has.
But did anybody lift a finger to try to correct or help the woman first? My guess is you folks hit the “socially punish” booth just like all the reporters in Airplane running into the phone booth at once to report the plane story and then the damn thing falls over.
You really don't do a good job at supporting equality. This woman knew exactly what she was doing and now she regrets the impending failure of her business. Self induced and don't feel sorry for her.
You don’t even know me… shut up. I support equality more than most. I just don’t take wrecking people any less than seriously.

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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by bmw » Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:11 am

TC Talks wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:34 am
Free speech has always come with consequences.
Like being an old lady and getting shot in the back for collecting petition signatures?
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:34 am
She has the right to be socially punished like she has.
You clearly don't understand what a "right" is. She has the right to free speech. She also has a "right" to make a living.

Others have a right to counter her speech with speech of their own. This is the actual "right" you're referring to here. And there are legal limits to "social punishment" as you call it. For example, if your response to someone's speech rises to a level of intentionally inflicting emotional distress on that person, you may be civilly liable for damages.

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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by TC Talks » Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:27 pm

bmw wrote:
Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:11 am
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:34 am
Free speech has always come with consequences.
Like being an old lady and getting shot in the back for collecting petition signatures?
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:34 am
She has the right to be socially punished like she has.
You clearly don't understand what a "right" is. She has the right to free speech. She also has a "right" to make a living.

Others have a right to counter her speech with speech of their own. This is the actual "right" you're referring to here. And there are legal limits to "social punishment" as you call it. For example, if your response to someone's speech rises to a level of intentionally inflicting emotional distress on that person, you may be civilly liable for damages.
These are different situations. The salon owner never trespassed, start a fight and threatened the property owner like that chronic Abortion activist did. That woman had a history of threatening behavior. The fact that she was shot was God's sign to quit being blasphemous.

If the salon owner is emotionally distressed after losing her vendors, online ranking, position in county party and most of her customers, it's unfortunate but not actionable. Ask Mike Lindell who he should sue for being an idiot.
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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by bmw » Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:33 pm

Mike Lindell is not comparable because he is a much higher-profile figure. The higher profile you are, the higher the threshold for proving things like libel/slander, or in this case, intentional infliction of emotional distress.

The salon owner would have a legal case if she could prove that someone:

1 - acts.
2 - That the act in #1 above constitutes "outrageous conduct"
3 - That the act in #1 above was done purposely or recklessly for the purpose of causing emotional distress so severe that it could be expected to adversely affect mental health, and
4 - That the act in #1 above actually causes the type of distress described above in #3.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/intenti ... l_distress

I'm not saying this is an easy case to win or that the salon owner even has a case. What I'm saying is that generally speaking, there are limits the amount of "social punishment" you can engage in against someone who had done or said something with which you disagree.

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Post by TC Talks » Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:35 pm

If you read her posts, you'd agree there is not lawyer who would take her case. She is trash with a big mouth.
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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by teetoppz28 » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:24 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:35 pm
If you read her posts, you'd agree there is not lawyer who would take her case. She is trash with a big mouth.
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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by TC Talks » Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:46 pm

teetoppz28 wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:24 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:35 pm
If you read her posts, you'd agree there is not lawyer who would take her case. She is trash with a big mouth.
*Rudy Giuliani has entered the chat...

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I wish luck on any out of town lawyer.
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