Nessel Tries an new strategy to stop line 5.

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Whitmer and Nessel are chasing away jobs, right? That's what you would say DeSantis was doing if he was blocking something similar.

No I wouldn’t. I’m opposing this godawful thing on principle. It comes in from Canada and exits into Canada. It can go around Lake Superior on their side. They can keep their trash too.

If Cuba routed a pipeline through the Everglades I would be equally unhappy.

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Whitmer and Nessel are chasing away jobs, right? That's what you would say DeSantis was doing if he was blocking something similar.

Disney 2000 vs Embridge 116
Homophobia vs Environmental Disaster

Not quite the same argument there. Actually, by fighting the tunnel, Embridge has hired Michigan Lawyers, P. R. hacks and airtime. Nessel has created jobs.

Enbridge only employs 116 employees and provisioned contractors in Michigan.

[Matt]

Whitmer and Nessel are chasing away jobs, right? That's what you would say DeSantis was doing if he was blocking something similar.

Disney 2000 vs Embridge 116
Homophobia vs Environmental Disaster

Not quite the same argument there. Actually, by fighting the tunnel, Embridge has hired Michigan Lawyers, P. R. hacks and airtime. Nessel has created jobs.

Enbridge only employs 116 employees and provisioned contractors in Michigan.

You can't possibly be this stupid...

There are CURRENTLY 116 employees in Michigan, but there would be more if the tunnel was being built.

There are CURRENTLY ZERO of the California Disney employees in Florida. We're talking about Whitmer and Nessel blocking NEW jobs, whereas DeSantis' Disney jihad is only stopping EXISTING jobs from moving to his state.

[TC Talks]

Whitmer and Nessel are chasing away jobs, right? That's what you would say DeSantis was doing if he was blocking something similar.

Disney 2000 vs Embridge 116
Homophobia vs Environmental Disaster

Not quite the same argument there. Actually, by fighting the tunnel, Embridge has hired Michigan Lawyers, P. R. hacks and airtime. Nessel has created jobs.

Enbridge only employs 116 employees and provisioned contractors in Michigan.

You can't possibly be this stupid...

There are CURRENTLY 116 employees in Michigan, but there would be more if the tunnel was being built.

There are CURRENTLY ZERO of the California Disney employees in Florida. We're talking about Whitmer and Nessel blocking NEW jobs, whereas DeSantis' Disney jihad is only stopping EXISTING jobs from moving to his state.

The tunnel would be built by a Canadian company out of Soo Canada.

[Matt]

Whitmer and Nessel are chasing away jobs, right? That's what you would say DeSantis was doing if he was blocking something similar.

Disney 2000 vs Embridge 116
Homophobia vs Environmental Disaster

Not quite the same argument there. Actually, by fighting the tunnel, Embridge has hired Michigan Lawyers, P. R. hacks and airtime. Nessel has created jobs.

Enbridge only employs 116 employees and provisioned contractors in Michigan.

You can't possibly be this stupid...

There are CURRENTLY 116 employees in Michigan, but there would be more if the tunnel was being built.

There are CURRENTLY ZERO of the California Disney employees in Florida. We're talking about Whitmer and Nessel blocking NEW jobs, whereas DeSantis' Disney jihad is only stopping EXISTING jobs from moving to his state.

The tunnel would be built by a Canadian company out of Soo Canada.

Where would they live?

[TC Talks]

Whitmer and Nessel are chasing away jobs, right? That's what you would say DeSantis was doing if he was blocking something similar.

Disney 2000 vs Embridge 116
Homophobia vs Environmental Disaster

Not quite the same argument there. Actually, by fighting the tunnel, Embridge has hired Michigan Lawyers, P. R. hacks and airtime. Nessel has created jobs.

Enbridge only employs 116 employees and provisioned contractors in Michigan.

You can't possibly be this stupid...

There are CURRENTLY 116 employees in Michigan, but there would be more if the tunnel was being built.

There are CURRENTLY ZERO of the California Disney employees in Florida. We're talking about Whitmer and Nessel blocking NEW jobs, whereas DeSantis' Disney jihad is only stopping EXISTING jobs from moving to his state.

The tunnel would be built by a Canadian company out of Soo Canada.

Where would they live?

Well, 50 minutes North of the bridge, in Canada

[Matt]

Whitmer and Nessel are chasing away jobs, right? That's what you would say DeSantis was doing if he was blocking something similar.

Disney 2000 vs Embridge 116
Homophobia vs Environmental Disaster

Not quite the same argument there. Actually, by fighting the tunnel, Embridge has hired Michigan Lawyers, P. R. hacks and airtime. Nessel has created jobs.

Enbridge only employs 116 employees and provisioned contractors in Michigan.

You can't possibly be this stupid...

There are CURRENTLY 116 employees in Michigan, but there would be more if the tunnel was being built.

There are CURRENTLY ZERO of the California Disney employees in Florida. We're talking about Whitmer and Nessel blocking NEW jobs, whereas DeSantis' Disney jihad is only stopping EXISTING jobs from moving to his state.

The tunnel would be built by a Canadian company out of Soo Canada.

Where would they live?

Well, 50 minutes North of the bridge, in Canada

They're not commuting everyday.

[TC Talks]

Whitmer and Nessel are chasing away jobs, right? That's what you would say DeSantis was doing if he was blocking something similar.

Disney 2000 vs Embridge 116
Homophobia vs Environmental Disaster

Not quite the same argument there. Actually, by fighting the tunnel, Embridge has hired Michigan Lawyers, P. R. hacks and airtime. Nessel has created jobs.

Enbridge only employs 116 employees and provisioned contractors in Michigan.

You can't possibly be this stupid...

There are CURRENTLY 116 employees in Michigan, but there would be more if the tunnel was being built.

There are CURRENTLY ZERO of the California Disney employees in Florida. We're talking about Whitmer and Nessel blocking NEW jobs, whereas DeSantis' Disney jihad is only stopping EXISTING jobs from moving to his state.

The tunnel would be built by a Canadian company out of Soo Canada.

Where would they live?

Well, 50 minutes North of the bridge, in Canada

They're not commuting everyday.

If this is your best argument for keeping Line 5 open, I can't say your going to convince many people. Do you know what a breach would do to the great lakes?

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Whitmer and Nessel are chasing away jobs, right? That's what you would say DeSantis was doing if he was blocking something similar.

Disney 2000 vs Embridge 116
Homophobia vs Environmental Disaster

Not quite the same argument there. Actually, by fighting the tunnel, Embridge has hired Michigan Lawyers, P. R. hacks and airtime. Nessel has created jobs.

Enbridge only employs 116 employees and provisioned contractors in Michigan.

You can't possibly be this stupid...

There are CURRENTLY 116 employees in Michigan, but there would be more if the tunnel was being built.

There are CURRENTLY ZERO of the California Disney employees in Florida. We're talking about Whitmer and Nessel blocking NEW jobs, whereas DeSantis' Disney jihad is only stopping EXISTING jobs from moving to his state.

The tunnel would be built by a Canadian company out of Soo Canada.

Where would they live?

Well, 50 minutes North of the bridge, in Canada

They're not commuting everyday.

Why would they bother putting them in a hotel in an area that’s sold out all summer when they are up the road? Do you have any idea how much money you just talked about wasting? And then to boot there would be… drum roll please… 116 jobs on Michigan when they stop building it. It’s like celebrating having any seasonal labor… ok but permanent jobs are a real measure.

[Matt]

Whitmer and Nessel are chasing away jobs, right? That's what you would say DeSantis was doing if he was blocking something similar.

Disney 2000 vs Embridge 116
Homophobia vs Environmental Disaster

Not quite the same argument there. Actually, by fighting the tunnel, Embridge has hired Michigan Lawyers, P. R. hacks and airtime. Nessel has created jobs.

Enbridge only employs 116 employees and provisioned contractors in Michigan.

You can't possibly be this stupid...

There are CURRENTLY 116 employees in Michigan, but there would be more if the tunnel was being built.

There are CURRENTLY ZERO of the California Disney employees in Florida. We're talking about Whitmer and Nessel blocking NEW jobs, whereas DeSantis' Disney jihad is only stopping EXISTING jobs from moving to his state.

The tunnel would be built by a Canadian company out of Soo Canada.

Where would they live?

Well, 50 minutes North of the bridge, in Canada

They're not commuting everyday.

Why would they bother putting them in a hotel in an area that’s sold out all summer when they are up the road? Do you have any idea how much money you just talked about wasting? And then to boot there would be… drum roll please… 116 jobs on Michigan when they stop building it. It’s like celebrating having any seasonal labor… ok but permanent jobs are a real measure.

https://www.greatlakesmichiganjobs.com/protect

The best argument is that there was a legal agreement to build the SAFE tunnel and it will create jobs. The fact that it hasn't already happened is a dereliction of duty by Whitmer and Nessel. They're pandering to their base.

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Whitmer and Nessel are chasing away jobs, right? That's what you would say DeSantis was doing if he was blocking something similar.

Disney 2000 vs Embridge 116
Homophobia vs Environmental Disaster

Not quite the same argument there. Actually, by fighting the tunnel, Embridge has hired Michigan Lawyers, P. R. hacks and airtime. Nessel has created jobs.

Enbridge only employs 116 employees and provisioned contractors in Michigan.

You can't possibly be this stupid...

There are CURRENTLY 116 employees in Michigan, but there would be more if the tunnel was being built.

There are CURRENTLY ZERO of the California Disney employees in Florida. We're talking about Whitmer and Nessel blocking NEW jobs, whereas DeSantis' Disney jihad is only stopping EXISTING jobs from moving to his state.

The tunnel would be built by a Canadian company out of Soo Canada.

Where would they live?

Well, 50 minutes North of the bridge, in Canada

They're not commuting everyday.

Why would they bother putting them in a hotel in an area that’s sold out all summer when they are up the road? Do you have any idea how much money you just talked about wasting? And then to boot there would be… drum roll please… 116 jobs on Michigan when they stop building it. It’s like celebrating having any seasonal labor… ok but permanent jobs are a real measure.

https://www.greatlakesmichiganjobs.com/protect

The best argument is that there was a legal agreement to build the SAFE tunnel and it will create jobs. The fact that it hasn't already happened is a dereliction of duty by Whitmer and Nessel. They're pandering to their base.

Wonderful non biased source… great reporting!

[Matt]

Whitmer and Nessel are chasing away jobs, right? That's what you would say DeSantis was doing if he was blocking something similar.

Disney 2000 vs Embridge 116
Homophobia vs Environmental Disaster

Not quite the same argument there. Actually, by fighting the tunnel, Embridge has hired Michigan Lawyers, P. R. hacks and airtime. Nessel has created jobs.

Enbridge only employs 116 employees and provisioned contractors in Michigan.

You can't possibly be this stupid...

There are CURRENTLY 116 employees in Michigan, but there would be more if the tunnel was being built.

There are CURRENTLY ZERO of the California Disney employees in Florida. We're talking about Whitmer and Nessel blocking NEW jobs, whereas DeSantis' Disney jihad is only stopping EXISTING jobs from moving to his state.

The tunnel would be built by a Canadian company out of Soo Canada.

Where would they live?

Well, 50 minutes North of the bridge, in Canada

They're not commuting everyday.

Why would they bother putting them in a hotel in an area that’s sold out all summer when they are up the road? Do you have any idea how much money you just talked about wasting? And then to boot there would be… drum roll please… 116 jobs on Michigan when they stop building it. It’s like celebrating having any seasonal labor… ok but permanent jobs are a real measure.

https://www.greatlakesmichiganjobs.com/protect

The best argument is that there was a legal agreement to build the SAFE tunnel and it will create jobs. The fact that it hasn't already happened is a dereliction of duty by Whitmer and Nessel. They're pandering to their base.

Wonderful non biased source… great reporting!

Attack the messenger when you can't counter the presented facts!

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Whitmer and Nessel are chasing away jobs, right? That's what you would say DeSantis was doing if he was blocking something similar.

Disney 2000 vs Embridge 116
Homophobia vs Environmental Disaster

Not quite the same argument there. Actually, by fighting the tunnel, Embridge has hired Michigan Lawyers, P. R. hacks and airtime. Nessel has created jobs.

Enbridge only employs 116 employees and provisioned contractors in Michigan.

You can't possibly be this stupid...

There are CURRENTLY 116 employees in Michigan, but there would be more if the tunnel was being built.

There are CURRENTLY ZERO of the California Disney employees in Florida. We're talking about Whitmer and Nessel blocking NEW jobs, whereas DeSantis' Disney jihad is only stopping EXISTING jobs from moving to his state.

The tunnel would be built by a Canadian company out of Soo Canada.

Where would they live?

Well, 50 minutes North of the bridge, in Canada

They're not commuting everyday.

Why would they bother putting them in a hotel in an area that’s sold out all summer when they are up the road? Do you have any idea how much money you just talked about wasting? And then to boot there would be… drum roll please… 116 jobs on Michigan when they stop building it. It’s like celebrating having any seasonal labor… ok but permanent jobs are a real measure.

https://www.greatlakesmichiganjobs.com/protect

The best argument is that there was a legal agreement to build the SAFE tunnel and it will create jobs. The fact that it hasn't already happened is a dereliction of duty by Whitmer and Nessel. They're pandering to their base.

Wonderful non biased source… great reporting!

Attack the messenger when you can't counter the presented facts!

It’s Canadian oil, from Canada through Michigan to Canada. It is going to do little more than create some construction jobs for 5 minutes. We don’t need the damn thing any more than we needed Keystone to go thousands of miles with Canadian oil primarily for export at the Gulf of Mexico. Too damn bad.

[Matt]

Whitmer and Nessel are chasing away jobs, right? That's what you would say DeSantis was doing if he was blocking something similar.

Disney 2000 vs Embridge 116
Homophobia vs Environmental Disaster

Not quite the same argument there. Actually, by fighting the tunnel, Embridge has hired Michigan Lawyers, P. R. hacks and airtime. Nessel has created jobs.

Enbridge only employs 116 employees and provisioned contractors in Michigan.

You can't possibly be this stupid...

There are CURRENTLY 116 employees in Michigan, but there would be more if the tunnel was being built.

There are CURRENTLY ZERO of the California Disney employees in Florida. We're talking about Whitmer and Nessel blocking NEW jobs, whereas DeSantis' Disney jihad is only stopping EXISTING jobs from moving to his state.

The tunnel would be built by a Canadian company out of Soo Canada.

Where would they live?

Well, 50 minutes North of the bridge, in Canada

They're not commuting everyday.

Why would they bother putting them in a hotel in an area that’s sold out all summer when they are up the road? Do you have any idea how much money you just talked about wasting? And then to boot there would be… drum roll please… 116 jobs on Michigan when they stop building it. It’s like celebrating having any seasonal labor… ok but permanent jobs are a real measure.

https://www.greatlakesmichiganjobs.com/protect

The best argument is that there was a legal agreement to build the SAFE tunnel and it will create jobs. The fact that it hasn't already happened is a dereliction of duty by Whitmer and Nessel. They're pandering to their base.

Wonderful non biased source… great reporting!

Attack the messenger when you can't counter the presented facts!

It’s Canadian oil, from Canada through Michigan to Canada. It is going to do little more than create some construction jobs for 5 minutes. We don’t need the damn thing any more than we needed Keystone to go thousands of miles with Canadian oil primarily for export at the Gulf of Mexico. Too damn bad.

You're lying:

While it’s true that Line 5 meets 65 percent of the propane heating demand in the Upper Peninsula—which would, indeed, force a crisis if the line were to close—the entire state loses in the event of a line closure.

First, Michigan’s Lower Peninsula uses 95 percent of the state’s propane by volume. A shortage of propane would result in just as much hardship downstate as up north. Statewide, Michigan is the top residential consumer of propane in the entire U.S.

But, even more than that, Line 5 provides:

Enough gas to fill 1 million passenger cars and trucks each day,
Enough diesel to fill 6,000 semitractor-trailers per day,
Enough jet fuel to fly 883 commercial planes per day, and
Enough propane to heat 300,000 Michigan homes per year.
Replacing the lost fuel supply in the event of a Line 5 closure would cripple Michigan’s ability to move its economy forward—statewide.

https://www.greatlakesmichiganjobs.com/ ... JEQAvD_BwE

A Line 5 closure would immediately impact more than 47,000 direct and indirect jobs in our state, devastating Michigan families and dramatically impacting millions of dollars in personal income.

And that’s only the beginning.

Hundreds of millions in capital investment would evaporate. State and local units of government—including Michigan schools—would lose tens of millions in tax revenue. Line 5 supports millions in property taxes, sales and use taxes, and income tax revenues for schools and communities along its route and, in many communities, is the single largest taxpayer.

But perhaps most dangerous and costly of all are the expenses associated with using alternative methods to transport heat and energy sources across Michigan in the absence of Line 5. Experts suggest the only viable options are rail and truck transportation, and neither our rail lines nor our roads are prepared to support the massively increased traffic that would result. Think Michigan has a transportation infrastructure problem now? Just wait.

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They are grossly overstating the situation…. That site is propaganda in order to get it built.

Let’s use your Florida standard. Both Whitmer and Nessel were overwhelmingly re-elected while supporting blocking this. You seem to be on the wrong side of the issue as compared to most of the state. We are also absent this project having happened right now. The sky isn’t falling… nobody is dying in the streets… trains aren’t crashing and it doesn’t take 10 hours to get up 127 or 131 to the UP due to truck traffic.