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Future of GOP leadership in Michigan

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Re: Future of GOP leadership in Michigan

Post by audiophile » Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:32 am

TC Talks wrote:
Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:39 pm
audiophile wrote:
Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:17 pm
Colonel Flagg wrote:
Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:20 am
TC Talks wrote:
Thu Nov 17, 2022 4:06 pm
I'd be happy to lose another couple of red voters from our swing state to deplorable crazyland.
Glad to be of service, as some of us "deplorables" pay hefty Michigan income tax, myself included. Get ready to say "das vadanya" to that money. My neighbor is taking things a step further, and *moving* his Michigan S-Corp to the Cayman Islands.

My issue is with the sissy RINO's, who are so infected with Trump derangement syndrome, they can't back their own party. Good luck with Tyrant Whitmer, and the next flurry of mandates and lockdowns. :smokin
So, for those extreme liberals that remain in Michigan that will be aborting their children and grandchildren, who will be left to turn out the lights?
Yep, that's how it is in reality. We are all a bunch of aborting fools.

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Re: Future of GOP leadership in Michigan

Post by audiophile » Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:37 am

km1125 wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:28 am
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:54 am
Boohoo I'm sure we're going to miss your tax dollars. We are not having a revenue problem in the state of Michigan. You're like a Karen telling the manager of a Target that she's taking her business elsewhere. If we get enough of your type to leave, we might actually start attracting the right kinds of citizens.
On the current trajectory, this state will follow Oregon into the abyss.
I know a lot of people that left during Covid.


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Re: Future of GOP leadership in Michigan

Post by Colonel Flagg » Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:43 am

MWmetalhead wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:55 am
Hefty state income tax? Give me a break, Colonel.

Our marginal tax rate of 4.25 percent on personal income is one of the lowest rates for northern tier states. WI, IL and IN are all higher. OH is lower, but counties and cities can (and do) levy sales taxes there.

The only folks with TDS are Trumpbots who worship him as an idol. Maybe his stooge candidates would've fared better if he actually threw some meaningful campaign $$$ their way.

Property taxes would be a more legitimate argument perhaps. We're 13th highest nationally as a percentage of property value, but bear in mind that's largely due to the fact very few cities and no counties levy income tax and none levy sales tax here.
Zero state income tax is still better than 4.25%. With that gone, and no fault car insurance gone, I should save a bundle.

I complained to the GOP (and Trump) about the lack of support, as did many others. I am not sure I understand their strategy.

I suspect our Michigan property taxes will soon resemble what you see in Illinois, especially around suburban Chicago. Who in their right mind wants to shell out $1100+ a month for property taxes on a $300K house? That leads to a lot of outbound moving vans.

Ailing elderly relatives is the main driving factor that keeps us in Michigan, and has for almost 18 years. As time drags on, you can grow old yourself, waiting that out, and before you know it, you're ailing and elderly too. I think Whitmer's draconian COVID lockdowns were the moment where I realized time is approaching "fuck this shit O'clock"


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Re: Future of GOP leadership in Michigan

Post by MWmetalhead » Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:25 am

Cannot blame you for wanting to switch your primary personal residence to Florida for taxation purposes. If I split time between both places, I'd consider filing in Florida, too. The downside of doing that, of course, is the principal residence exemption for property tax purposes in Michigan would be lost (18 mills).

The Headlee Amendment greatly reduces the risk of property tax increases spiraling too far out of control here. Most property tax increases in Michigan require voter approval.

Michigan's system of taxation is a bit dysfunctional. I think local and county governments are too reliant on property taxes, and I also think the way revenue sharing from Lansing works is a little silly.

Auto insurance rates are moving in the right direction *if* you shop around earnestly. I do wish no fault would go away here, as that would really bring rates down in a hurry.



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Re: Future of GOP leadership in Michigan

Post by Rate This » Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:28 pm

Colonel Flagg wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:43 am
MWmetalhead wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:55 am
Hefty state income tax? Give me a break, Colonel.

Our marginal tax rate of 4.25 percent on personal income is one of the lowest rates for northern tier states. WI, IL and IN are all higher. OH is lower, but counties and cities can (and do) levy sales taxes there.

The only folks with TDS are Trumpbots who worship him as an idol. Maybe his stooge candidates would've fared better if he actually threw some meaningful campaign $$$ their way.

Property taxes would be a more legitimate argument perhaps. We're 13th highest nationally as a percentage of property value, but bear in mind that's largely due to the fact very few cities and no counties levy income tax and none levy sales tax here.
Zero state income tax is still better than 4.25%. With that gone, and no fault car insurance gone, I should save a bundle.

I complained to the GOP (and Trump) about the lack of support, as did many others. I am not sure I understand their strategy.

I suspect our Michigan property taxes will soon resemble what you see in Illinois, especially around suburban Chicago. Who in their right mind wants to shell out $1100+ a month for property taxes on a $300K house? That leads to a lot of outbound moving vans.

Ailing elderly relatives is the main driving factor that keeps us in Michigan, and has for almost 18 years. As time drags on, you can grow old yourself, waiting that out, and before you know it, you're ailing and elderly too. I think Whitmer's draconian COVID lockdowns were the moment where I realized time is approaching "fuck this shit O'clock"
Having lived in Chicago… we are nowhere near that as far as taxes go.



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Re: Future of GOP leadership in Michigan

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:15 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:25 am
Cannot blame you for wanting to switch your primary personal residence to Florida for taxation purposes. If I split time between both places, I'd consider filing in Florida, too. The downside of doing that, of course, is the principal residence exemption for property tax purposes in Michigan would be lost (18 mills).

The Headlee Amendment greatly reduces the risk of property tax increases spiraling too far out of control here. Most property tax increases in Michigan require voter approval.

Michigan's system of taxation is a bit dysfunctional. I think local and county governments are too reliant on property taxes, and I also think the way revenue sharing from Lansing works is a little silly.

Auto insurance rates are moving in the right direction *if* you shop around earnestly. I do wish no fault would go away here, as that would really bring rates down in a hurry.
I have heard good things about Cure insurance. Giving them a call in a couple weeks. We shall see.


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Re: Future of GOP leadership in Michigan

Post by TC Talks » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:57 am

km1125 wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:28 am
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:54 am
Boohoo I'm sure we're going to miss your tax dollars. We are not having a revenue problem in the state of Michigan. You're like a Karen telling the manager of a Target that she's taking her business elsewhere. If we get enough of your type to leave, we might actually start attracting the right kinds of citizens.
On the current trajectory, this state will follow Oregon into the abyss.
Oh the horror, we're doomed because some retiree who doesn't generate any income tax wants to leave. Michigan is going Blue.


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Re: Future of GOP leadership in Michigan

Post by Matt » Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:36 am

What a disaster these two assholes would be: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 671167007/


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Re: Future of GOP leadership in Michigan

Post by Circle Seven » Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:12 am

Matt wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:36 am
What a disaster these two assholes would be: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 671167007/
I'm not quite sure why they would even consider DePerno, if half of the AG smear ads are true. Is there any dirt on Soldano? Having party leadership that's squeaky clean just may be Step One to rebuilding the GOP. Even if you have to tap a township clerk somewhere. Hello?



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Re: Future of GOP leadership in Michigan

Post by teetoppz28 » Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:55 am

Soldano MIGHT be OK in that position... He just needs to get his lips off tRump's tiny appendage and stop the Q-cumber bullshit.


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Re: Future of GOP leadership in Michigan

Post by MWmetalhead » Fri Dec 02, 2022 5:04 pm

The parade of losers continues; latest entrant is Lena the Cunt:

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 695950007/



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Re: Future of GOP leadership in Michigan

Post by Colonel Flagg » Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:31 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:57 am
km1125 wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:28 am
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:54 am
Boohoo I'm sure we're going to miss your tax dollars. We are not having a revenue problem in the state of Michigan. You're like a Karen telling the manager of a Target that she's taking her business elsewhere. If we get enough of your type to leave, we might actually start attracting the right kinds of citizens.
On the current trajectory, this state will follow Oregon into the abyss.
Oh the horror, we're doomed because some retiree who doesn't generate any income tax wants to leave. Michigan is going Blue.
Retiree? Doesn't generate any income tax? Wrong again, but feel free to rave on, with your nonsensical conjecture. We look forward to it everyday. :lol


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Re: Future of GOP leadership in Michigan

Post by TC Talks » Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:28 pm

Maybe you can share a U-Haul to Alabama with km1125.


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Re: Future of GOP leadership in Michigan

Post by dogonyx » Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:41 am

TC Talks wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:57 am
km1125 wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:28 am
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:54 am
Boohoo I'm sure we're going to miss your tax dollars. We are not having a revenue problem in the state of Michigan. You're like a Karen telling the manager of a Target that she's taking her business elsewhere. If we get enough of your type to leave, we might actually start attracting the right kinds of citizens.
On the current trajectory, this state will follow Oregon into the abyss.
Oh the horror, we're doomed because some retiree who doesn't generate any income tax wants to leave. Michigan is going Blue.
Argh! This infuriates me!, My husband and I have been retired just shy of two years and I literally just wrote checks totaling $36,700 for income tax. I wish there was a way to allow only the educated (in life, not necessarily school) and responsible to vote.



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Re: Future of GOP leadership in Michigan

Post by TC Talks » Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:13 pm

dogonyx wrote:
Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:41 am
TC Talks wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:57 am
km1125 wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:28 am
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:54 am
Boohoo I'm sure we're going to miss your tax dollars. We are not having a revenue problem in the state of Michigan. You're like a Karen telling the manager of a Target that she's taking her business elsewhere. If we get enough of your type to leave, we might actually start attracting the right kinds of citizens.
On the current trajectory, this state will follow Oregon into the abyss.
Oh the horror, we're doomed because some retiree who doesn't generate any income tax wants to leave. Michigan is going Blue.
Argh! This infuriates me!, My husband and I have been retired just shy of two years and I literally just wrote checks totaling $36,700 for income tax. I wish there was a way to allow only the educated (in life, not necessarily school) and responsible to vote.
Well that's quite a first post. You seem... familiar somehow.


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