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1972

Post by A1B1C1D1 » Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:59 am

https://ballotpedia.org/Michigan_Propos ... ive_(1972)

Yes the most ignored vote by most of Michigan media. Obama infamously said elections have consequences to the squealing delight of his supporters.

My question is, imagine a world where abortion was legalized by a 20 point margin, and a Rick Snyder tool put an injunction in place putting the 1931 law back on the books. How often would we hear about plan b from 72 by our Michigan media?

We also get a ban on private school vouchers and a can deposit law from statewide initiatives, all still in effect. One judge can temporarily wipe out almost 2 million votes. But elections have consequences.



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Re: 1972

Post by km1125 » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:12 am

Interesting that the proposal was supported by Milliken but opposed by Gribbs (a Democrat) because "We’ve lost sight of the consequences. We’re dealing with human meanings. We’re dealing with life."

Had we reverted to that law, rather than the 1931, you'd still have the "we want to kill babies" folks up in arms.



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Re: 1972

Post by Bobbert » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:47 am

Here's how the Detroit Free Press reported on the defeat of this proposal.

Detroit Free Press, November 8, 1972

Liberalized Abortion Loses by 3-2 Margin

BY PAUL M. BRANZRURG
Free Press Staff Writer


Michigan voters rejected a liberalized abortion law Tuesday leaving intact the 126-year-old state law that prohibits abortion except "to preserve the life" of a pregnant woman.

Proposal B, which would have allowed a physician to perform an abortion for any reason in the first 20 weeks of pregnancy in a state-approved facility, was defeated after a massive campaign by anti-abortion groups throughout the state.

The early returns, from more than half of the 80 Free Press indicator precincts, showed that 61 percent of votes were against abortion liberalization and 39 percent were for it—about a 3 to 2 margin.

In the past few weeks Proposal B had lost much of public support. It was attacked by the "Love, and Let Live" campaign of the Catholic Church and by Voice of the Unborn, a non-sectarian coalition of anti-abortion groups that claims a membership of more than 10,000 people. Voice of the Unborn spent about. $200,000 to defeat the proposal, according to Michael Deeb, executive director of the organization and a member of the state Board of Education.

The Catholic Church did not disclose its campaign expenditures.

In the closing weeks of the campaign, Voice of the Unborn distributed one million leaflets to white voters and a quarter-million leaflets to black voters.

Voice of the Unborn also printed a million fund solicitation envelopes, some of which were distributed in Catholic churches.

The Catholic Church distributed 1 1/2 million copies of an expensive, glossy, four-page pamphlet with color photographs of the various stages of fetal development.

Each of the state's 950 Catholic parishes also was sent a 12-minute color slide-and-sound presentation bearing the title of the overall campaign, "Love, and Let Live."

Anti-abortionists had hammered away at the idea that a 20-weekold human fetus is well-developed, with a beating heart, a functioning brain, and well-formed limbs that are already moving.

A Market Opinion Research survey commissioned by Voice of the Unborn in September showed, according to Deeb, that more than half of those who planned to vote for Proposal B did not realize that it permitted abortion up to 20 weeks, and that many would vote "No" when they learned about this.

So Voice of the Unborn hammered away at this point as the campaign drew to a close. This appeared to have swayed many voters.

A Detroit News poll on Sept. 21 showed 53 percent of the public for the proposal, 36 percent against it, and five percent undecided.

But by Oct. 31, support had dwindled to 42 percent, with 54 percent against it and four percent undecided.

Deeb declared Tuesday night that his anti-abortion fight was not over, despite the defeat of Proposal B.

He voiced fear that the Michigan Legislature might decide to pass a new abortion law.



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Re: 1972

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:33 pm

Don’t you love Repugnants? They want us to go back to 1931. In fact, many here would be totally fine putting Blacks back in chains. But for now, let’s keep them off the buses and disband SMART.


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Re: 1972

Post by Bryce » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:17 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:33 pm
Don’t you love Repugnants? They want us to go back to 1931. In fact, many here would be totally fine putting Blacks back in chains. But for now, let’s keep them off the buses and disband SMART.
Umm, again your ignorance is showing. It's the Republican's that were the driving force for getting slaves OUT of the chains. The Democrats were perfectly happy with slavery and fought a war to keep the chains of slavery on. Then, when they lost that war, took numerous steps to put them back on.


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Re: 1972

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:24 am

Bryce wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:17 pm
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:33 pm
Don’t you love Repugnants? They want us to go back to 1931. In fact, many here would be totally fine putting Blacks back in chains. But for now, let’s keep them off the buses and disband SMART.
Umm, again your ignorance is showing. It's the Republican's that were the driving force for getting slaves OUT of the chains. The Democrats were perfectly happy with slavery and fought a war to keep the chains of slavery on. Then, when they lost that war, took numerous steps to put them back on.
Yeah, the Republican Party became much different just 50 years after that. Nice try.


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Re: 1972

Post by A1B1C1D1 » Mon Aug 01, 2022 7:11 pm

So now a circuit judge elected by Oakland County voters can issue a restraining order against every prosecutor in the state.

The State Supreme Court seems unwilling to take up the matter before November.

It will be interesting to see how the proposal in November does at the ballot box. While it should pass easily, you have NIMBY voters who are shocked that the pot stores they voted for prefer the white suburbs to the more diverse inner city, and voters who will only vote for abortion indirectly. If it passes, will we see our southern border full of clinics for Indiana and Ohio residents? Kansas will be an interesting result, as will California where voters sank a same sex marriage amendment in the recent past.



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