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Re: For all you rubes that thought an "independent" commission was needed

Post by km1125 » Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:01 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:57 pm
Matt's earlier remarks about Dingell and potentially "doing a lot worse" than her have suddenly hit home for me.

Why, you ask?

I live (barely) in the new 12th district. Guess who decided today to run for reelection in the 12th? (Yup, Rashida Tlaib).

Dammit, Brenda Lawrence...I wish you would've run again!

I can only hope R.T. will face stiff primary competition.
Isn't Shri throwing his hat in that ring?



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Re: For all you rubes that thought an "independent" commission was needed

Post by ftballfan » Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:06 pm

km1125 wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:01 pm
MWmetalhead wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:57 pm
Matt's earlier remarks about Dingell and potentially "doing a lot worse" than her have suddenly hit home for me.

Why, you ask?

I live (barely) in the new 12th district. Guess who decided today to run for reelection in the 12th? (Yup, Rashida Tlaib).

Dammit, Brenda Lawrence...I wish you would've run again!

I can only hope R.T. will face stiff primary competition.
Isn't Shri throwing his hat in that ring?
The same guy that ran a lot of ads only to come in a distant third (to Whitmer and el-Sayed) in the Dem gubernatorial primary in 2018!



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Re: For all you rubes that thought an "independent" commission was needed

Post by MWmetalhead » Fri Jan 07, 2022 7:19 am

I think that may be correct, km1125. I am no fan of his, either. He might not be quite as bad as Tlaib, though.



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Re: For all you rubes that thought an "independent" commission was needed

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:58 am

It's too bad we don't have Tlaib. She would be great.


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Re: For all you rubes that thought an "independent" commission was needed

Post by Matt » Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:30 am

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:58 am
It's too bad we don't have Tlaib. She would be great.
She's terrible, amongst the worst in Congress.


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Re: For all you rubes that thought an "independent" commission was needed

Post by audiophile » Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:36 am

Matt wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:30 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:58 am
It's too bad we don't have Tlaib. She would be great.
She's terrible, amongst the worst in Congress.
House Ethics Committee investigation
On November 14, 2019, the House Ethics Committee announced that it was investigating whether Tlaib used congressional campaign money for personal expenses in violation of House rules.[33] In August 2020 the committee directed Tlaib to reimburse her campaign $10,800, stating that Tlaib has an "obligation to act in accordance with the strict technical requirements of federal campaign laws and regulations, including the restrictions on personal use of campaign funds".[34][35]

Democratic Party
Tlaib, a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, aligns politically with the left wing of the Democratic Party.[78][3]

Domestic policy
She supports domestic reforms, including Medicare for All and a $18 to $20 hourly minimum wage.[79][80] On November 5, 2021, Tlaib was one of six House Democrats to break with their party and vote against the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act because it was decoupled from the social safety net provisions in the Build Back Better Act.[81][82]

Immigration
Tlaib was an early supporter of the movement to abolish the Immigration Customs Enforcement agency.[78] In June 2019 she was one of four Democratic representatives to vote against the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for Humanitarian Assistance and Security at the Southern Border Act, a $4.5 billion border funding bill that required Customs and Border Protection enact health standards for individuals in custody such as forming standards for individuals for "medical emergencies; nutrition, hygiene, and facilities; and personnel training."[83][84]

Law enforcement
Tlaib has called for the abolition of the police and incarceration.[85] She has called American policing "inherently and intentionally racist", saying, "No more policing, incarceration, and militarization. It can't be reformed."[86] Detroit police chief James Craig called Tlaib's comments "disgusting".[87]

Abortion
Tlaib supports abortion rights and has criticized what she called "white men trying to force women to not have the right to seek legal abortions".[88][89] She was endorsed by abortion rights organization NARAL.[90]


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Re: For all you rubes that thought an "independent" commission was needed

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:40 pm

audiophile wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:36 am
Matt wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:30 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:58 am
It's too bad we don't have Tlaib. She would be great.
She's terrible, amongst the worst in Congress.
House Ethics Committee investigation
On November 14, 2019, the House Ethics Committee announced that it was investigating whether Tlaib used congressional campaign money for personal expenses in violation of House rules.[33] In August 2020 the committee directed Tlaib to reimburse her campaign $10,800, stating that Tlaib has an "obligation to act in accordance with the strict technical requirements of federal campaign laws and regulations, including the restrictions on personal use of campaign funds".[34][35]

Democratic Party
Tlaib, a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, aligns politically with the left wing of the Democratic Party.[78][3]

Domestic policy
She supports domestic reforms, including Medicare for All and a $18 to $20 hourly minimum wage.[79][80] On November 5, 2021, Tlaib was one of six House Democrats to break with their party and vote against the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act because it was decoupled from the social safety net provisions in the Build Back Better Act.[81][82]

Immigration
Tlaib was an early supporter of the movement to abolish the Immigration Customs Enforcement agency.[78] In June 2019 she was one of four Democratic representatives to vote against the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for Humanitarian Assistance and Security at the Southern Border Act, a $4.5 billion border funding bill that required Customs and Border Protection enact health standards for individuals in custody such as forming standards for individuals for "medical emergencies; nutrition, hygiene, and facilities; and personnel training."[83][84]

Law enforcement
Tlaib has called for the abolition of the police and incarceration.[85] She has called American policing "inherently and intentionally racist", saying, "No more policing, incarceration, and militarization. It can't be reformed."[86] Detroit police chief James Craig called Tlaib's comments "disgusting".[87]

Abortion
Tlaib supports abortion rights and has criticized what she called "white men trying to force women to not have the right to seek legal abortions".[88][89] She was endorsed by abortion rights organization NARAL.[90]
So, I see someone who was being unfairly targeted for being a Berniecrat. So what?

As far as the social issues, some of them probably go a little too far. However, we need social change.


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Re: For all you rubes that thought an "independent" commission was needed

Post by Matt » Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:45 am

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:40 pm
audiophile wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:36 am
Matt wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:30 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:58 am
It's too bad we don't have Tlaib. She would be great.
She's terrible, amongst the worst in Congress.
House Ethics Committee investigation
On November 14, 2019, the House Ethics Committee announced that it was investigating whether Tlaib used congressional campaign money for personal expenses in violation of House rules.[33] In August 2020 the committee directed Tlaib to reimburse her campaign $10,800, stating that Tlaib has an "obligation to act in accordance with the strict technical requirements of federal campaign laws and regulations, including the restrictions on personal use of campaign funds".[34][35]

Democratic Party
Tlaib, a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, aligns politically with the left wing of the Democratic Party.[78][3]

Domestic policy
She supports domestic reforms, including Medicare for All and a $18 to $20 hourly minimum wage.[79][80] On November 5, 2021, Tlaib was one of six House Democrats to break with their party and vote against the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act because it was decoupled from the social safety net provisions in the Build Back Better Act.[81][82]

Immigration
Tlaib was an early supporter of the movement to abolish the Immigration Customs Enforcement agency.[78] In June 2019 she was one of four Democratic representatives to vote against the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for Humanitarian Assistance and Security at the Southern Border Act, a $4.5 billion border funding bill that required Customs and Border Protection enact health standards for individuals in custody such as forming standards for individuals for "medical emergencies; nutrition, hygiene, and facilities; and personnel training."[83][84]

Law enforcement
Tlaib has called for the abolition of the police and incarceration.[85] She has called American policing "inherently and intentionally racist", saying, "No more policing, incarceration, and militarization. It can't be reformed."[86] Detroit police chief James Craig called Tlaib's comments "disgusting".[87]

Abortion
Tlaib supports abortion rights and has criticized what she called "white men trying to force women to not have the right to seek legal abortions".[88][89] She was endorsed by abortion rights organization NARAL.[90]
So, I see someone who was being unfairly targeted for being a Berniecrat. So what?

As far as the social issues, some of them probably go a little too far. However, we need social change.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rashid ... oric-crazy


What's more pathetic: harassing an old man who is paying to do a radio show or supporting a grifter like Trump?

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Re: For all you rubes that thought an "independent" commission was needed

Post by MWmetalhead » Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:55 am

She has been bat-shit crazy ever since her days in Lansing.



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Re: For all you rubes that thought an "independent" commission was needed

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:12 pm

Matt wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:45 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:40 pm
audiophile wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:36 am
Matt wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:30 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:58 am
It's too bad we don't have Tlaib. She would be great.
She's terrible, amongst the worst in Congress.
House Ethics Committee investigation
On November 14, 2019, the House Ethics Committee announced that it was investigating whether Tlaib used congressional campaign money for personal expenses in violation of House rules.[33] In August 2020 the committee directed Tlaib to reimburse her campaign $10,800, stating that Tlaib has an "obligation to act in accordance with the strict technical requirements of federal campaign laws and regulations, including the restrictions on personal use of campaign funds".[34][35]

Democratic Party
Tlaib, a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, aligns politically with the left wing of the Democratic Party.[78][3]

Domestic policy
She supports domestic reforms, including Medicare for All and a $18 to $20 hourly minimum wage.[79][80] On November 5, 2021, Tlaib was one of six House Democrats to break with their party and vote against the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act because it was decoupled from the social safety net provisions in the Build Back Better Act.[81][82]

Immigration
Tlaib was an early supporter of the movement to abolish the Immigration Customs Enforcement agency.[78] In June 2019 she was one of four Democratic representatives to vote against the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for Humanitarian Assistance and Security at the Southern Border Act, a $4.5 billion border funding bill that required Customs and Border Protection enact health standards for individuals in custody such as forming standards for individuals for "medical emergencies; nutrition, hygiene, and facilities; and personnel training."[83][84]

Law enforcement
Tlaib has called for the abolition of the police and incarceration.[85] She has called American policing "inherently and intentionally racist", saying, "No more policing, incarceration, and militarization. It can't be reformed."[86] Detroit police chief James Craig called Tlaib's comments "disgusting".[87]

Abortion
Tlaib supports abortion rights and has criticized what she called "white men trying to force women to not have the right to seek legal abortions".[88][89] She was endorsed by abortion rights organization NARAL.[90]
So, I see someone who was being unfairly targeted for being a Berniecrat. So what?

As far as the social issues, some of them probably go a little too far. However, we need social change.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rashid ... oric-crazy
Supporting the rights of Palestine and a two state solution is automatically seen as anti Semitism. If you believe Palestine has a right to exist, it automatically makes you racist in the minds of pro Zionist extremists. Not buying that “kiss the ring” mindset.

The West Bank should not be occupied by Israel. They illegally took that land.


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Re: For all you rubes that thought an "independent" commission was needed

Post by MWmetalhead » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:07 am

A couple more facts about the new 12th district:
- Per Politico, it leans heavily Democrat. FiveThirtyEight agrees. Politico shows a 70 - 74% D affiliation whereas FiveThirtyEight shows a +44% advantage for the Dems.
- Not only does the new 12th include Southfield Township (Beverly Hills, Bingham Farms, Franklin), it also includes Livonia!


So, there is a very strong possibility that Rashida Tlaib will be the congressperson representing Livonia starting next year. :eek

Overall, the new Congressional map is certainly better than the old, heavily gerrymandered one that will no longer be in effect, but the example I cite here is certainly one where things could've been handled better.



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Re: For all you rubes that thought an "independent" commission was needed

Post by Rate This » Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:35 am

MWmetalhead wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:07 am
A couple more facts about the new 12th district:
- Per Politico, it leans heavily Democrat. FiveThirtyEight agrees. Politico shows a 70 - 74% D affiliation whereas FiveThirtyEight shows a +44% advantage for the Dems.
- Not only does the new 12th include Southfield Township (Beverly Hills, Bingham Farms, Franklin), it also includes Livonia!


So, there is a very strong possibility that Rashida Tlaib will be the congressperson representing Livonia starting next year. :eek

Overall, the new Congressional map is certainly better than the old, heavily gerrymandered one that will no longer be in effect, but the example I cite here is certainly one where things could've been handled better.
When things are drawn more fairly you get this kind of thing. Republicans would have salamandered Livonia and the other places somehow absent the commission.



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Re: For all you rubes that thought an "independent" commission was needed

Post by Matt » Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:17 am

Rate This wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:35 am
MWmetalhead wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:07 am
A couple more facts about the new 12th district:
- Per Politico, it leans heavily Democrat. FiveThirtyEight agrees. Politico shows a 70 - 74% D affiliation whereas FiveThirtyEight shows a +44% advantage for the Dems.
- Not only does the new 12th include Southfield Township (Beverly Hills, Bingham Farms, Franklin), it also includes Livonia!


So, there is a very strong possibility that Rashida Tlaib will be the congressperson representing Livonia starting next year. :eek

Overall, the new Congressional map is certainly better than the old, heavily gerrymandered one that will no longer be in effect, but the example I cite here is certainly one where things could've been handled better.
When things are drawn more fairly you get this kind of thing. Republicans would have salamandered Livonia and the other places somehow absent the commission.
Geometric does not equal fair.


What's more pathetic: harassing an old man who is paying to do a radio show or supporting a grifter like Trump?

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Re: For all you rubes that thought an "independent" commission was needed

Post by Rate This » Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:28 am

Matt wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:17 am
Rate This wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:35 am
MWmetalhead wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:07 am
A couple more facts about the new 12th district:
- Per Politico, it leans heavily Democrat. FiveThirtyEight agrees. Politico shows a 70 - 74% D affiliation whereas FiveThirtyEight shows a +44% advantage for the Dems.
- Not only does the new 12th include Southfield Township (Beverly Hills, Bingham Farms, Franklin), it also includes Livonia!


So, there is a very strong possibility that Rashida Tlaib will be the congressperson representing Livonia starting next year. :eek

Overall, the new Congressional map is certainly better than the old, heavily gerrymandered one that will no longer be in effect, but the example I cite here is certainly one where things could've been handled better.
When things are drawn more fairly you get this kind of thing. Republicans would have salamandered Livonia and the other places somehow absent the commission.
Geometric does not equal fair.
Wiggling and squiggling your way to specific groups of people most certainly doesn’t. Geometric would be fairer. We should also note that Livonia and the places north of Southfield are considerably bluer than they used to be.



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Re: For all you rubes that thought an "independent" commission was needed

Post by Bryce » Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:22 pm

Word on the street is that remnants of the old McNamara machine living in and around Livonia are preparing someone that will primary Ms. Tlaib.


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