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Whitmer Misses The Mark

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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by Rate This » Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:20 pm

Matt wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:18 pm
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The appeals court has upheld the governors continued use of emergency powers.. strike 2 for the legislature.
Cite those cases.
The first was the judge in Detroit, this is the appeal. Too bad.
RT is the #1 fan of government overreach.
I’m a fan of stating facts. I didn’t take a position but twice now the government overreach position has lost.



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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by audiophile » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:42 pm

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 402687001/
In his dissent, Tukel wrote that the Emergency Powers of Governor Act and the Emergency Management Act must be viewed as a package. And that the 28-day duration for a state of emergency without legislative approval as set out in the Emergency Management Act, should be the requirement that controls for both laws.

The governor is also violating the separation of powers requirements of the state constitution by exercising powers delegated to the Legislature, Tukel wrote.


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by audiophile » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:08 am

Smackdown on governor today?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/michi ... d=msedgntp

The easiest route for Michigan Supreme Court is to say there is no emergency and the governor's unilateral actions may have caused more deaths due her EO's putting Covid-19 positive people in nursing homes.


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by audiophile » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:30 am

I was speaking with a young woman originally from Washington state and she said your governor is a nutcase.

She doesn't even live in the state...


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by audiophile » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:58 am

audiophile wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:08 am
Smackdown on governor today?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/michi ... d=msedgntp

The easiest route for Michigan Supreme Court is to say there is no emergency and the governor's unilateral actions may have caused more deaths due her EO's putting Covid-19 positive people in nursing homes.
MSC arguments going badly for governor:
https://youtu.be/HyBanqtCLvo?t=6450
Her lawyer is pretty bad, talks in circles, makes point of Wisconsin, flailing hands constantly.

The funniest thing is when he said "..if don't like what governor is doing you can sue her"...oh wait!

You're making my point :lol
https://youtu.be/HyBanqtCLvo?t=7210

Governor's Imagination:
https://youtu.be/HyBanqtCLvo?t=9520

Governor inconsistent:
https://youtu.be/HyBanqtCLvo?t=10113

EO's without oversight:
https://youtu.be/HyBanqtCLvo?t=10580

Public Health and Public Safety are two different things:
https://youtu.be/HyBanqtCLvo?t=12681


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

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Whitmer will not let go of her EO's until there a vaccine. This woman is out of control.

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2 ... -says.html


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

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audiophile wrote:
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Whitmer will not let go of her EO's until there a vaccine. This woman is out of control.

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2 ... -says.html
I'm hopeful the MSC changes that. She is a tyrant.


What's more pathetic: harassing an old man who is paying to do a radio show or supporting a grifter like Trump?

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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by audiophile » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:04 pm

I watched that hearing, but I'm not sure when they will render a decision.

Click on some of my hearing links above...It's interesting.


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

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Whitmer is caterwauling because she is about lose her overreach :barf
Of course, it's just bologna:
Unlock Michigan spokesman Fred Wszolek said the governor's contention is “nonsensical, unless you assume that the governor would be completely unable to persuade the Legislature to continue a single one of her pandemic policies. Our proposal doesn’t revoke any of her policies; we simply revoke her authority to impose her policies by decree, bypassing the Legislature."

Republicans including Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey have questioned the reasoning behind Whitmer's orders and have said no businesses, including movie theaters, should still be closed.


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

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Whitmer is caterwauling because she is about lose her overreach :barf
Of course, it's just bologna:
Unlock Michigan spokesman Fred Wszolek said the governor's contention is “nonsensical, unless you assume that the governor would be completely unable to persuade the Legislature to continue a single one of her pandemic policies. Our proposal doesn’t revoke any of her policies; we simply revoke her authority to impose her policies by decree, bypassing the Legislature."

Republicans including Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey have questioned the reasoning behind Whitmer's orders and have said no businesses, including movie theaters, should still be closed.
Read the bottom paragraph... that’s the exact reason she won’t give it up. She thinks she knows better than Shirkey and co. how to manage this... on that she’s probably right. We will fare worse in a second wave with them at the helm.



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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by audiophile » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:30 am

Sweden had no second wave.


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

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Sweden had no second wave.
It’s a little early yet. Especially here. Let’s see what happens November-March. To declare anybody didn’t have a second wave is premature. Oh and I’m not getting any funny infections from those out there websites of yours. Find a mainstream website talking about Sweden and we can talk about it.



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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

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To declare anybody didn’t have a second wave is premature.
...as was you declaring that Sweden got it wrong - at which time I said just wait - they'll be over their Coronavirus well before anybody else is. Since late July, Sweden has only been averaging TWO deaths per day related to Covid, and in September specifically, they've had quite a few zero-death days.

In fact, since the beginning of July, Sweden's daily death toll has been back to the low-side of its 5-year average. This per Sweden's official government numbers:

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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

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bmw wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:52 am
Rate This wrote:
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To declare anybody didn’t have a second wave is premature.
...as was you declaring that Sweden got it wrong - at which time I said just wait - they'll be over their Coronavirus well before anybody else is. Since late July, Sweden has only been averaging TWO deaths per day related to Covid, and in September specifically, they've had quite a few zero-death days.

In fact, since the beginning of July, Sweden's daily death toll has been back to the low-side of its 5-year average. This per Sweden's official government numbers:

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Sweden declared they got it wrong...



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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

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:rollin

What a come back.


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