Whitmer Misses The Mark

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Here's Whitmer flip-flopping again. First saying we wouldn't go into lockdown, then just days later going into lockdown.

This time around just last week she threatened administrative action against Doctors for prescribing hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine to treat Coronavirus cases:

https://www.michigan.gov/documents/lara ... 4869_7.pdf

Now, she's on board with the drug, having "requested hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine from the Strategic National Stockpile for physicians to use to help treat patients with COVID-19"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michig ... irus-drugs

This chick has no idea what the hell she's doing. "Just winging it" would be a perfectly appropriate phrase to describe her leadership through this.

Or adapting to a rapidly developing situation that changes by the day.

[Mr.Transistor]

C'mon cut her a break. She is busy on the national news shows and comedy central, putting her name out there in the national spotlight. She'll get back to the state's business as time permits. What a great opportunity to audition as Joe's #2, she's given the keys to the car to Garlin so we're ok. She got the response she wanted and needed from Trump.

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C'mon cut her a break. She is busy on the national news shows and comedy central, putting her name out there in the national spotlight. She'll get back to the state's business as time permits. What a great opportunity to audition as Joe's #2, she's given the keys to the car to Garlin so we're ok. She got the response she wanted and needed from Trump.

Yep. Trump is campaigning for president while Gretchen Granholm is campaigning for VP.

And in that scenario Gretchen is winning... Trump... not so much.

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C'mon cut her a break. She is busy on the national news shows and comedy central, putting her name out there in the national spotlight. She'll get back to the state's business as time permits. What a great opportunity to audition as Joe's #2, she's given the keys to the car to Garlin so we're ok. She got the response she wanted and needed from Trump.

Yep. Trump is campaigning for president while Gretchen Granholm is campaigning for VP.

And in that scenario Gretchen is winning... Trump... not so much.

You can’t be VP if your P doesn’t win, Silly. So gay.

That’s the best you got? So lame.

[bmw]

Can somebody tell me why the hell Whitmer hasn't yet shut down lottery ticket sales? Wait - I have an answer. The Lottery is a cash cow for the state. Of course the state isn't going to shut something down that makes it money. They'll shut down other people's sources of revenue, but not their own.

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-gover ... oronavirus

Lottery tickets are absolutely non-essential, they create social distancing hazards in stores, and there is a lot of handling back and forth between customers and clerks with both the tickets themselves and the cash.

Even store owners are asking her to stop Lottery sales. I don't think it is an option for a store - if you sell lottery tickets, you can't just shut down your terminal.

Gonna be a long 6 years with Whitmer in charge of this state.

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Can somebody tell me why the hell Whitmer hasn't yet shut down lottery ticket sales? Wait - I have an answer. The Lottery is a cash cow for the state. Of course the state isn't going to shut something down that makes it money. They'll shut down other people's sources of revenue, but not their own.

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-gover ... oronavirus

Lottery tickets are absolutely non-essential, they create social distancing hazards in stores, and there is a lot of handling back and forth between customers and clerks with both the tickets themselves and the cash.

Even store owners are asking her to stop Lottery sales. I don't think it is an option for a store - if you sell lottery tickets, you can't just shut down your terminal.

Gonna be a long 6 years with Whitmer in charge of this state.

The Governor was asked that very thing in the town hall and she only could muster “we’re looking into it”...

[Turkeytop]

Ontario closed the casinos but kept the lottery. Beer and Liquor stores are still open. A h**ge source of revenue.

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Can somebody tell me why the hell Whitmer hasn't yet shut down lottery ticket sales? Wait - I have an answer. The Lottery is a cash cow for the state. Of course the state isn't going to shut something down that makes it money. They'll shut down other people's sources of revenue, but not their own.

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-gover ... oronavirus

Lottery tickets are absolutely non-essential, they create social distancing hazards in stores, and there is a lot of handling back and forth between customers and clerks with both the tickets themselves and the cash.

Even store owners are asking her to stop Lottery sales. I don't think it is an option for a store - if you sell lottery tickets, you can't just shut down your terminal.

Gonna be a long 6 years with Whitmer in charge of this state.

The Governor was asked that very thing in the town hall and she only could muster “we’re looking into it”...

I saw that too. what a blow-off answer.

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Can somebody tell me why the hell Whitmer hasn't yet shut down lottery ticket sales? Wait - I have an answer. The Lottery is a cash cow for the state. Of course the state isn't going to shut something down that makes it money. They'll shut down other people's sources of revenue, but not their own.

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-gover ... oronavirus

Lottery tickets are absolutely non-essential, they create social distancing hazards in stores, and there is a lot of handling back and forth between customers and clerks with both the tickets themselves and the cash.

Even store owners are asking her to stop Lottery sales. I don't think it is an option for a store - if you sell lottery tickets, you can't just shut down your terminal.

Gonna be a long 6 years with Whitmer in charge of this state.

The Governor was asked that very thing in the town hall and she only could muster “we’re looking into it”...

I saw that too. what a blow-off answer.

Yeah she really blew that question. The whole thing really didn’t go very well actually...

[bmw]

Also looks like there's a bit of a political battle brewing in our legislature. What I didn't know was that it was her declaration of a state of emergency that gives her the subsequent authority to issue the various executive orders she's issued, including the shelter-in-place order. And that declaration expires in just a few days. I knew she wanted a 70-day extension, but I never realized that this directly affected the executive orders. In other words, it looks like in order to extend the shelter-in-place order, she ultimately needs approval from the republican-controlled legislature.

And the republicans only want to give her an additional 23 days (through the end of April), and at least some are critical of the breadth of her shelter-in-place order. Top that off with the fact that they're wary of even having a legislative meeting, AND the legal dispute over whether she can just keep rescinding and extending the state of emergency, and what we have now is what could be an interesting start to the week.

https://www.wilx.com/content/news/Michi ... 91931.html

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Even store owners are asking her to stop Lottery sales. I don't think it is an option for a store - if you sell lottery tickets, you can't just shut down your terminal.

According to this Free Press article on Friday, retailers can choose not to sell tickets if they feel they cannot maintain the social distancing guidelines, or they just don't want to do it. So it is an option:

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 109638002/

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Also looks like there's a bit of a political battle brewing in our legislature. What I didn't know was that it was her declaration of a state of emergency that gives her the subsequent authority to issue the various executive orders she's issued, including the shelter-in-place order. And that declaration expires in just a few days. I knew she wanted a 70-day extension, but I never realized that this directly affected the executive orders. In other words, it looks like in order to extend the shelter-in-place order, she ultimately needs approval from the republican-controlled legislature.

And the republicans only want to give her an additional 23 days (through the end of April), and at least some are critical of the breadth of her shelter-in-place order. Top that off with the fact that they're wary of even having a legislative meeting, AND the legal dispute over whether she can just keep rescinding and extending the state of emergency, and what we have now is what could be an interesting start to the week.

https://www.wilx.com/content/news/Michi ... 91931.html

Correct... spelled out here:

Public Act 390 of 1976, called the “Emergency Management Act,” is meant for “planning, mitigation, response, and recovery from natural and human-made disaster.” It charges the governor with “coping with dangers to this state or the people of this state presented by a disaster or emergency,” and with issuing orders that have the same effect as law during an emergency situation.

In both cases, the statute says the emergency may only last 28 days. After this, the governor may request an extension, but only for a specified period, and the extension is subject to legislative approval.

To be clear she wanted 70 days on the emergency declaration, she hasn't talked timelines on stay at home yet.

[bmw]

Actually, she has talked about extending stay-at-home already; maybe not a specific timeline, but still...

https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/michig ... home-order

As a purely legal matter, the state of emergency, without extension, would expire at the end of the day April 7. That's just 2 days from now. If, let's say, the legislature failed to extend it, what impact would that have on the executive orders that have expiration dates beyond April 7? Would those effectively end at the exact moment the state of emergency ends?

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Actually, she has talked about extending stay-at-home already; maybe not a specific timeline, but still...

https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/michig ... home-order

As a purely legal matter, the state of emergency, without extension, would expire at the end of the day April 7. That's just 2 days from now. If, let's say, the legislature failed to extend it, what impact would that have on the executive orders that have expiration dates beyond April 7? Would those effectively end at the exact moment the state of emergency ends?

I'm gonna read it as a yes. The 1976 act is an extension of this 1945 act. It's pretty clear to me that absent an emergency there are no orders:

Public Act 302 of 1945, called the “Emergency Powers of Governor,” authorizes the governor to declare a state of emergency and exercise certain powers for that period. Specifically, the act empowers the governor to control traffic, establish a curfew, regulate and prohibit the use and occupancy of buildings and public places, and control the sale and transportation of alcohol, dangerous liquids or explosives. These orders are only effective during the declared state of emergency, and anyone who violates them is guilty of a misdemeanor.

That the attempt would be made to extend it is a given. The Republicans will be committing political suicide if they don't extend it.

Your FOX 2 Article says:

The order is currently set to expire on April 14th.

So now what happens? I would imagine without the State of Emergency there cannot be a continuation of the shelter in place which would invite chaos and a lot of tar and feathering of the state Republicans. Especially in the face of the highest daily death toll that is supposedly coming this week. One can only imagine the "X people were dying and X representative or senator didn't give a rats ass" ads... the results would be devastating for them.

[bmw]

I think I agree with your legal conclusion. It sure looks to me like all executive orders would expire as a matter of law on midnight Tuesday night with no deal.

Republicans have offered up 23 days. That puts the ball back into the Democrats' court. What if they refuse to sign onto 23 days because they want 70? There will be political fallout, no doubt. Not sure Republicans would take the blame.

Where things get dicey is it is unclear how many Republicans want assurance from Whitmer that any future extensions to stay-at-home orders are to be less restrictive than the current ones (like as mentioned in that one article - landscapers, golf courses, etc). Not sure if there are enough of those votes to derail the negotiations.

If I had to make a prediction, there will be a deal for a 23-day extension with no strings attached.