Whitmer Misses The Mark

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I think I agree with your legal conclusion. It sure looks to me like all executive orders would expire as a matter of law on midnight Tuesday night with no deal.

Republicans have offered up 23 days. That puts the ball back into the Democrats' court. What if they refuse to sign onto 23 days because they want 70? There will be political fallout, no doubt. Not sure Republicans would take the blame.

Where things get dicey is it is unclear how many Republicans want assurance from Whitmer that any future extensions to stay-at-home orders are to be less restrictive than the current ones (like as mentioned in that one article - landscapers, golf courses, etc). Not sure if there are enough of those votes to derail the negotiations.

If I had to make a prediction, there will be a deal for a 23-day extension with no strings attached.

I imagine they would reach a deal for 45 if they were dug into both those numbers...

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A compromise would likely be 38 (mid-May), but I don't Republicans even want to give that much right now - especially considering that the projections I'm seeing suggest that Michigan may be one of the first states to reach its peak - on April 10.

https://www.talktomira.com/post/when-wi ... distancing

The projections above also suggest that Michigan's daily death rate could drop to 2-3 people per day as early as May 1 - or 0.3 per million, defined as the end of the pandemic and the time when social distancing could end.

70 days right now based on that data is ludacris.

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A compromise would likely be 38 (mid-May), but I don't Republicans even want to give that much right now - especially considering that the projections I'm seeing suggest that Michigan may be one of the first states to reach its peak - on April 10.

https://www.talktomira.com/post/when-wi ... distancing

The projections above also suggest that Michigan's daily death rate could drop to 2-3 people per day as early as May 1 - or 0.3 per million, defined as the end of the pandemic and the time when social distancing could end.

70 days right now based on that data is ludacris.

Well again 70 is for the State of Emergency which unlocks funding. 28 or 35 days could easily be how far the order is extended and that’s it. These are really 2 separate but related issues we are discussing. But they don’t have to have the exact same or even close to the exact same timeline.

That says social distancing would likely end a month from peak which would be April 9th. So May 9th which is a 32 day extension?

Clearly you see no chance of the GOP simply saying “pound sand” and letting things go back to normal on Tuesday.

[bmw]

I can't imagine a scenario where SOMETHING doesn't get done tomorrow or Tuesday. Just an interesting situation that has arisen - quite frankly I can't believe this wasn't resolved before the weekend.

As to the length, Republicans are wary (and rightfully so) that Whitmer may extend shelter-in-place for the entire 70 days if they were to give her that amount of time. Even 70 days out, there will likely be more cases in the state than there were the day shelter-in-place went into effect.

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I can't imagine a scenario where SOMETHING doesn't get done tomorrow or Tuesday. Just an interesting situation that has arisen - quite frankly I can't believe this wasn't resolved before the weekend.

As to the length, Republicans are wary (and rightfully so) that Whitmer may extend shelter-in-place for the entire 70 days if they were to give her that amount of time. Even 70 days out, there will likely be more cases in the state than there were the day shelter-in-place went into effect.

Uncertain times my friend... uncertain times. Even I can’t imagine it going 70 days.. that’s June...

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Ditzmer's minions are feeling empowered to spew their own EOs...

http://www.nwhealth.org/newsreleases/NR ... elease.pdf

https://www.dhd4.org/wp-content/uploads ... 2020-1.pdf

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Ditzmer's minions are feeling empowered to spew their own EOs...

http://www.nwhealth.org/newsreleases/NR ... elease.pdf

https://www.dhd4.org/wp-content/uploads ... 2020-1.pdf

Counties are free to regulate in this way as well. All temporary.

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Under what authority?

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Under what authority?

If they declare their own emergencies.

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I thought only governor or president could do that? A non-elected health department official?

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I thought only governor or president could do that? A non-elected health department official?

A county official in a department with clear emergency powers.

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Need to be signed by the sheriff of each county.

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Need to be signed by the sheriff of each county.

I don’t think that’s necessarily true. Normal procedure goes out the window in a case like this.

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A health consortium that spans 4 counties can't not issue an E.O. by itself.

That would be like a 4-county construction code authority issuing an E.O.

There is no executive.

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A health consortium that spans 4 counties can't not issue an E.O. by itself.

That would be like a 4-county construction code authority issuing an E.O.

There is no executive.

Well... they did it... so they must have authority from somewhere... nobody is going to just randomly issue decrees without some backing.