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Whitmer Misses The Mark

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Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by audiophile » Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:36 pm

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Thank you to everyone for your support and prayers while I was extremely ill and hospitalized due to COVID-19! It truly means the world to me. I am continuing to recover and be treated at home. I’m praying all of you, and your families, remain healthy and safe during this challenging time.
As a COVID-19 survivor who is currently recovering, I believe it is important to share my story publicly so others have hope. The sad reality is Michigan’s Governor, Gretchen Whitmer, is failing the people of the state of Michigan. Rather than leading and making good choices that will help our wonderful people during this horrible COVID-19 situation, she continuously chooses to engage in partisan politics. That must end now.

On March 18th, I had a sudden onset of severe respiratory and cardiac issues. I immediately went to the hospital and they did a COVID-19 test. Despite my test being marked as a priority, I did not receive the test results until the evening of March 22nd. While waiting for the test results in the hospital, my breathing continued to worsen as treatment was received. Without having the COVID-19 test results, the wonderful and hard-working doctors basically have their hands tied as certain medications (i.e. steroids, etc.) can potentially make COVID-19 worse. On the morning of March 21st, I was not doing well and it was a major struggle to breathe. Feeling like I was slowly drowning, I honestly believed I would not live to see midnight. The x-ray that morning also showed my condition was worsening, including some collapsing in the lungs. Luckily, the infectious disease physicians decided to try a non-approved, experimental combination (Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin). This is the same treatment President Donald Trump recently mentioned at a press conference and continues to be attacked for. After my first dose, I had a major improvement. My gasping for air stopped, and I was in tears of happiness due to having hope restored. I finally felt I would beat COVID-19 and it was no longer beating me. On March 22nd, I remained about the same. However, March 23rd brought a significant improvement. I continued to recover and was miraculously able to go home on March 24th to continue the treatment.

There are a few important things I believe the public needs to know. One is the treatment that President Trump recommended worked for me and saved my life. It also appears to be helping others. As a result, I believe we can all have hope! However, I sadly just learned that Governor Whitmer has once again made a terrible decision. According to the Detroit News, her Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs sent a letter threatening all doctors and pharmacists in Michigan who prescribe or dispense Hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19. The letter threatens administrative action against the licenses of doctors who prescribe it. It also instructs pharmacists to ignore physician orders for this medication. This is unacceptable and I’m confident Governor Whitmer, and her administration, will be responsible for many deaths and much suffering. I highly recommend she stop the politics, and not discourage doctors from using treatment they believe may work. It could be a matter of life or death for numerous patients.
As for the COVID-19 testing, we can do better. On March 24th, after hearing my story, a friend recommended I talk to a local company whom she heard had COVID-19 tests. I spoke with ProMed Rapid Testing of Southfield, Michigan. They were kind enough to drop off a sample to my home yesterday. I tried one and had the results in minutes. It showed I had IgG antibodies in my system, which apparently means I had the virus and successfully beat it. I was told these exact tests are being used in 67 countries around the world and they cost under $50. What really upset me the most is they apparently contacted multiple state and regional government and health system agencies over the past month about these available test kits.

I believe Governor Whitmer should've taken advantage of these tests rather than sitting and blaming the federal government. In my situation, doctors could’ve had immediate test results so they would’ve known what they were dealing with. These immediate test results are essential to early detection and effective treatment.

I also learned on March 25th, through multiple news sources, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) did not receive a request from the State of Michigan for federal emergency funds. While Governor Whitmer was going on national television to engage in partisan politics, she should’ve been working with her team and had the application submitted long ago. Michigan topped 2,200 cases and at least 43 deaths on March 25th. On that same date, the Governor's spokeswoman told the Detroit Free Press that state officials were "reviewing and looking into" a request to FEMA. So, while Michigan ranks fifth in the nation for total coronavirus cases, and does need federal assistance, Governor Whitmer failed to complete the process and instead opted to wrongfully point the finger at President Trump.

Overall, the COVID-19 situation should not be about partisan politics. Our elected officials, who work for us, must lead effectively and do what's in the best interest of all people. Governor Whitmer has not done this. Instead, she continuously makes very poor decisions and puts politics before people. As a COVID-19 survivor, I believe Governor Whitmer needs to start acting in the best interest of the people here in the great state of Michigan. Instead of pointing the finger at others, she needs to look in the mirror. It is not too late for her to set partisan politics aside and start making good choices for us all.


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by Rate This » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:06 pm

Why would a person who is recovering from it waste a test “to try it out”? There are some odd things in here as well. The reason for that order is that people who actually need That medication now cannot easily get it because of hoarding by doctors and other people who can obtain it easily particularly Lupus patients who really do need it badly. I would say this little note is a fake.



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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by audiophile » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:47 pm

You misread. He was getting sicker when they tried it as a last resort.
Without having the COVID-19 test results, the wonderful and hard-working doctors basically have their hands tied as certain medications (i.e. steroids, etc.) can potentially make COVID-19 worse. On the morning of March 21st, I was not doing well and it was a major struggle to breathe. Feeling like I was slowly drowning, I honestly believed I would not live to see midnight. The x-ray that morning also showed my condition was worsening, including some collapsing in the lungs. Luckily, the infectious disease physicians decided to try a non-approved, experimental combination (Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin).


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by Rate This » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:03 pm

audiophile wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:47 pm
You misread. He was getting sicker when they tried it as a last resort.
Without having the COVID-19 test results, the wonderful and hard-working doctors basically have their hands tied as certain medications (i.e. steroids, etc.) can potentially make COVID-19 worse. On the morning of March 21st, I was not doing well and it was a major struggle to breathe. Feeling like I was slowly drowning, I honestly believed I would not live to see midnight. The x-ray that morning also showed my condition was worsening, including some collapsing in the lungs. Luckily, the infectious disease physicians decided to try a non-approved, experimental combination (Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin).
No I read it. I just don’t believe it. That also doesn’t change the reasoning for Whitmers order which was also done in Illinois and other states.



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Post by TC Talks » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:42 pm

I believe trial projects should be restricted to hospitals that are actively managing COVID cases. Doctors at suburban practices who are nowhere near a hospital? They're profiteering.

As for other trials, talk to the FDA, not a politician.


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Post by MWmetalhead » Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:39 am

Why do hospitals need approval from the state or feds to procure COVID-19 tests?

Perhaps the supplier in question from Southfield either (a) hasn't received FDA approval or (b) hasn't done an effective job of marketing itself to regional hospitals and other health providers?

Similarly, maybe health organizations such as Beamount (or whomever) weren't effectively prepared. Just as one can make the claim that the state is overly reliant on the feds, perhaps an argument can be made that private health care organizations are overly reliant on the state? I'm not necessarily saying that's the case here, just mentioning it as a possibility.

Where I will certainly agree with the author wholeheartedly is Whitmer's major emergency declaration request should've been filed earlier, and the outrageous restrictions and threats of sanction made by her Department of LARA should be lifted immediately!

The local TV news outlets + WWJ are giving Whitmer a free pass on that latter point in particular, just as they paid very little attention to the Michigan UIA controversy five years ago. They are all PATHETIC at journalism! Pitifully few news gathering resources are paid to the goings-on in our state capital.
I believe trial projects should be restricted to hospitals that are actively managing COVID cases. Doctors at suburban practices who are nowhere near a hospital? They're profiteering.
Hospitals are being overwhelmed. Your idea would fuel even more traffic to hospitals. That's a pretty damning indictment you just made against the medical community.



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Post by km1125 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:10 am

audiophile wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:47 pm
You misread. He was getting sicker when they tried it as a last resort.
Without having the COVID-19 test results, the wonderful and hard-working doctors basically have their hands tied as certain medications (i.e. steroids, etc.) can potentially make COVID-19 worse. On the morning of March 21st, I was not doing well and it was a major struggle to breathe. Feeling like I was slowly drowning, I honestly believed I would not live to see midnight. The x-ray that morning also showed my condition was worsening, including some collapsing in the lungs. Luckily, the infectious disease physicians decided to try a non-approved, experimental combination (Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin).
They are two different tests. One (the first one he got) is to see if you have active virus. The second one is to see if you have antibodies. If you take the antibody test too early, it would indicate negative, because you haven't developed antibodies yet to fight the active virus. If you take the active virus test too late you might get a negative even though your body is still fighting it.

We really need both tests and should be testing anybody who wants to go through the drive-thru test process. Anyone showing obvious symptoms should be prioritized for the active test, as they need the applicable treatment asap.

Knowing what percent of our population already has has it would be very valuable to knowing how far we are from herd immunity.



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Post by Rate This » Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:46 pm

The Miami Herald had an interesting story on the people who need Hydrochloroquine and can’t get it now because of the sudden hype about it:
https://apple.news/Ao1VF2x_ETPGgztWEBKMeCg

That’s why the restrictions on the medication... doctors have been prescribing themselves and their family members hundreds of pills at a time.



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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by km1125 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:26 am

Rate This wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:46 pm
The Miami Herald had an interesting story on the people who need Hydrochloroquine and can’t get it now because of the sudden hype about it:
https://apple.news/Ao1VF2x_ETPGgztWEBKMeCg

That’s why the restrictions on the medication... doctors have been prescribing themselves and their family members hundreds of pills at a time.
fortunately...there's a paper trail. Hope someone spends some time digging into that!!



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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

Post by Rate This » Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:10 pm

km1125 wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:26 am
Rate This wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:46 pm
The Miami Herald had an interesting story on the people who need Hydrochloroquine and can’t get it now because of the sudden hype about it:
https://apple.news/Ao1VF2x_ETPGgztWEBKMeCg

That’s why the restrictions on the medication... doctors have been prescribing themselves and their family members hundreds of pills at a time.
fortunately...there's a paper trail. Hope someone spends some time digging into that!!
Propublica did some digging into that and I think the threats against the doctors licenses was about the only deterrent they have... I’m not sure they would seize it back and reuse the medicine.



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Post by Matt » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:50 pm

lovinlife101 wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:20 am
Just an observation. You’ve never seen Bruce Jenner and Gretchen Granholm together. 🤔
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol


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lovinlife101 wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:20 am
Just an observation. You’ve never seen Bruce Jenner and Gretchen Granholm together. 🤔
:rollin :rollin :rollin


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Post by audiophile » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:49 am

The 10:30am snews conference has been quarantined?

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10:59 Update: Looks like a YouTube feed on her phone. Bad quality, no camera pans.

Gretch wants 70 day extension to her executive powers. Heck no, the legislature should be involved going forward!!!


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Re: Whitmer Misses The Mark

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audiophile wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:49 am
The 10:30am snews conference has been quarantined?

------PLEASE STAND BY-------

------PLEASE STAND BY--------

------PLEASE STAND BY--------


10:59 Update: Looks like a YouTube feed on her phone. Bad quality, no camera pans.

Gretch wants 70 day extension to her executive powers. Heck no, the legislature should be involved going forward!!!
In this kind of situation you don’t legislate your way out of it.



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Post by bmw » Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:40 pm

Here's Whitmer flip-flopping again. First saying we wouldn't go into lockdown, then just days later going into lockdown.

This time around just last week she threatened administrative action against Doctors for prescribing hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine to treat Coronavirus cases:

https://www.michigan.gov/documents/lara ... 4869_7.pdf

Now, she's on board with the drug, having "requested hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine from the Strategic National Stockpile for physicians to use to help treat patients with COVID-19"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michig ... irus-drugs

This chick has no idea what the hell she's doing. "Just winging it" would be a perfectly appropriate phrase to describe her leadership through this.



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