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A great day in Michigan

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Re: A great day in Michigan

Post by keto » Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:28 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:52 pm
Women finally can be free from forced religious beliefs.

This is the clearest example of upholding the division of Church and State.

Choice if Choice
Murder is a big deal outside of religious circles, too. You don't have to be religious to know murder is wrong and that innocent life should be protected.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”



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Re: A great day in Michigan

Post by keto » Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:28 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:20 pm
If anyone doubts why we need religion out of government, just Google

"Child raper pastor" and see how many different situations pop up. Churches do not provide moral leadership in the country. They worship people like Trump.
Why are you changing the subject?

Murder is wrong for both religious and non-religious people regardless of location or age.



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Re: A great day in Michigan

Post by keto » Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:13 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:07 pm
audiophile wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:51 pm
keto wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:28 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:20 pm
If anyone doubts why we need religion out of government, just Google

"Child raper pastor" and see how many different situations pop up. Churches do not provide moral leadership in the country. They worship people like Trump.
Why are you changing the subject?

Murder is wrong for both religious and non-religious people regardless of location or age.
Even TurkeyTop, an atheist, believes it is wrong.
I agree murder is wrong, otherwise, just imagine how these evangelistic, gun nut, abortion protesters would be behaving. We aren't talking about murder, it's protection of women's rights.
Murder is intentionally ending another human life. That’s exactly what abortion does. No woman has the right to kill her offspring, neither should men.



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Re: A great day in Michigan

Post by keto » Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:25 am

Nobody cares what a woman does with her body. It’s what she does with the other body that’s immoral.



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Re: A great day in Michigan

Post by keto » Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:10 am

Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:39 am
keto wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:25 am
Nobody cares what a woman does with her body. It’s what she does with the other body that’s immoral.
And how exactly is that your concern?
Protecting innocent life? It should be all of our concern if we’re civilized.

If you knew a neighbor child was being abused, would you think, “None of my concern” and do nothing?



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Re: A great day in Michigan

Post by keto » Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:38 am

Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:59 am
keto wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:10 am
Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:39 am
keto wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:25 am
Nobody cares what a woman does with her body. It’s what she does with the other body that’s immoral.
And how exactly is that your concern?
Protecting innocent life? It should be all of our concern if we’re civilized.

If you knew a neighbor child was being abused, would you think, “None of my concern” and do nothing?
I don’t know. Having been abused myself and nobody did anything and I’m still walking and talking that’s not a cut and dry answer.
Glad you're still walking and talking. Those killed by abortion didn't get that luxury.

All innocent human life should be protected.



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Re: A great day in Michigan

Post by keto » Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:48 am

Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:28 am
keto wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:38 am
Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:59 am
keto wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:10 am
Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:39 am
keto wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:25 am
Nobody cares what a woman does with her body. It’s what she does with the other body that’s immoral.
And how exactly is that your concern?
Protecting innocent life? It should be all of our concern if we’re civilized.

If you knew a neighbor child was being abused, would you think, “None of my concern” and do nothing?
I don’t know. Having been abused myself and nobody did anything and I’m still walking and talking that’s not a cut and dry answer.
Glad you're still walking and talking. Those killed by abortion didn't get that luxury.

All innocent human life should be protected.
Those aborted organisms were never capable of walking or talking so your point is both moot and invalid.
“Aborted organisms”?

Were they aliens? Reptiles? Amphibians?

You can’t even say it. It’s human, and it’s life.

Where do you think you came from?

Most people in senior centers can’t walk or talk, so should we kill them off?

Mutes can’t talk. Should we kill them off?

Paraplegics and quadriplegics can’t walk. Should we kill them off?

Hitler taught people that Jews weren’t human and justified killing them.

Whites taught people that blacks weren’t human and justified enslaving, abusing, and killing them.

You’ve been taught and propagate the idea that the unborn aren’t human and justify murder.

History and science will not look kindly on you.
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Re: A great day in Michigan

Post by keto » Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:54 am

Graham Wellington wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:36 am
Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:28 am
keto wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:38 am
Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:59 am
keto wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:10 am
Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:39 am
keto wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:25 am
Nobody cares what a woman does with her body. It’s what she does with the other body that’s immoral.
And how exactly is that your concern?
Protecting innocent life? It should be all of our concern if we’re civilized.

If you knew a neighbor child was being abused, would you think, “None of my concern” and do nothing?
I don’t know. Having been abused myself and nobody did anything and I’m still walking and talking that’s not a cut and dry answer.
Glad you're still walking and talking. Those killed by abortion didn't get that luxury.

All innocent human life should be protected.
Those aborted organisms were never capable of walking or talking so your point is both moot and invalid.
Exactly. Which is why abortion must be legal up to, and even a bit after birth, especially if they have disabilities. Those cells can't walk or talk either for a while after birth and aren't human until they can.
Exactly, and disproportionately for minority communities.



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Re: A great day in Michigan

Post by keto » Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:37 pm

Graham Wellington wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:01 pm
Matt wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:49 am
Graham Wellington wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:49 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:07 pm
audiophile wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:51 pm
keto wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:28 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:20 pm
If anyone doubts why we need religion out of government, just Google

"Child raper pastor" and see how many different situations pop up. Churches do not provide moral leadership in the country. They worship people like Trump.
Why are you changing the subject?

Murder is wrong for both religious and non-religious people regardless of location or age.
Even TurkeyTop, an atheist, believes it is wrong.
I agree murder is wrong, otherwise, just imagine how these evangelistic, gun nut, abortion protesters would be behaving. We aren't talking about murder, it's protection of women's rights.
Amen! A woman's right to kill her offspring must be protected at all costs.
According to democrats, Susan Smith did ALMOST nothing wrong. The ALMOST part is for the ones that remember who she blamed.
The bigotry displayed by Susan Smith was the true horror in that case. The fact that she healthcared her kids was a personal choice for her to make.
But only if the 14 month old couldn’t walk and talk. That’s the new standard for defining when human life begins.



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Re: A great day in Michigan

Post by keto » Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:59 pm

Numbers don't lie:

https://www2.census.gov/library/publica ... 1s0099.pdf

Black babies are aborted at more than 3x the rate of white babies and more than twice as much as all others.



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Re: A great day in Michigan

Post by keto » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:39 pm

Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:04 pm
keto wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:59 pm
Numbers don't lie:

https://www2.census.gov/library/publica ... 1s0099.pdf

Black babies are aborted at more than 3x the rate of white babies and more than twice as much as all others.
That’s not what you said the first time and you know it.
Wow, most people that are losing an argument don't go crazy, but okay, you do you.



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Re: A great day in Michigan

Post by keto » Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:33 pm

km1125 wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:23 pm
keto wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:59 pm
Numbers don't lie:

https://www2.census.gov/library/publica ... 1s0099.pdf

Black babies are aborted at more than 3x the rate of white babies and more than twice as much as all others.
Wasn't that the goal of Planned Parenthood?
Totally.

“We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.” - Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood and Rate This’ hero



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Re: A great day in Michigan

Post by keto » Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:36 pm

Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:37 pm
bmw wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:30 pm
Newborns can't walk or talk, either. So why not just allow the killing of babies up until the time they are capable of forming memories - about 2.5 years old? Or why stop there? Mom and Dad own the house you live in until you're 17 or 18. How about legal murder right up until the time little Johnny moves out on his own?
Of course much of this is moot... Abortions are almost exclusively first trimester affairs. It's not like they are taking out a fully developed ready and rarin' to go baby and eviscerating it instead of holding it while it sucks a pacifier with a bonnet on its head. It resembles a dozen or a hundred different mammals...

Demographers estimate that 117 billion people have lived in the last 140,000 years. Forgive me if 800,000 hypothetical people not existing just doesn't make a splash. It's a rounding error. We've no shortage of people and not knowing someone that doesn't exist and getting worked up about it is just insane. It's literally none of anyone's business.
You and Hitler would have gotten along splendidly.



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Re: A great day in Michigan

Post by keto » Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:39 pm

Graham Wellington wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:07 pm
Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:37 pm
bmw wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:30 pm
Newborns can't walk or talk, either. So why not just allow the killing of babies up until the time they are capable of forming memories - about 2.5 years old? Or why stop there? Mom and Dad own the house you live in until you're 17 or 18. How about legal murder right up until the time little Johnny moves out on his own?
Demographers estimate that 117 billion people have lived in the last 140,000 years. Forgive me if 800,000 hypothetical people not existing just doesn't make a splash. It's a rounding error. We've no shortage of people and not knowing someone that doesn't exist and getting worked up about it is just insane. It's literally none of anyone's business.
Bingo - insignificant people are essentially worthless to society and dealing with them via healthcare just keeps them from becoming problems later on. Especially those with handicaps. We as society are really doing them a favor.
That’s right. So Rate This would support the disproportionate suicides of those in the LGBTQIA+ community because it’s their choice and nobody should do anything about it. Calling the dead a “rounding error.”



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Re: A great day in Michigan

Post by keto » Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:43 pm

Graham Wellington wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:20 pm
Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:15 pm
audiophile wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:50 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:13 pm
audiophile wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:04 pm
Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:17 pm

Oh look you slipped.
So if your neighbor sees a dog on his property, then he can kill it.
Killing a pet is now illegal in Michigan, abortion isn't. No one is making any one get one though.
That's inconsistent, but fairly typical of liberals. If killing a pet is a crime how why is viable fetus in a healthy mother not one?

The inconsistency continues for crimes against the mother and the fetus, because the fetus is treated another human in those instances.
I don’t think it’s inconsistent. One is in full existence. The other is developing and outside of that woman would die.
The Science© states that the clump of cells that makes up a fetus magically transform into a human at some arbitrary point in development. The point of magical transformation from clump of cells to human can be instantaneous at the moment of birth, or at 24 weeks fetal development. It just depends on who you ask. It can go from clump of cells to full human with a soul and everything just like that.
It’s not just the amount of cells, but the kind of cells.

Not only does the developing human have fewer cells in utero, they’re not human until Rate This says so, and at that point, they magically become more and human.



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