As someone that has never worked in radio that's amazing to me that YouTube recordings would actually be played.I think Smooth Criminal was ripped from YouTube and they didn't get the right version. Mike Kernen used to jump us for downloading shitty YouTube videos and loading them into Vault for over-the-air play. Sounded like garbage.
Acceptable registrations in the queue through May 6 at 7:00p ET have now been activated. Enjoy! -M.W.
Terms of Use have been amended effective October 6, 2019. Make sure you are aware of the new rules! Please visit this thread for details: https://www.mibuzzboard.com/phpBB3/view ... 16&t=48619
Terms of Use have been amended effective October 6, 2019. Make sure you are aware of the new rules! Please visit this thread for details: https://www.mibuzzboard.com/phpBB3/view ... 16&t=48619
WRIF's audio sounds like shit again
Re: WRIF's audio sounds like shit again
-
- Posts: 4270
- Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:09 pm
- Location: Brighton
Re: WRIF's audio sounds like shit again
You better believe it. All three stations got a "talking to" from the engineering department about that. We would either put it in ProTools or run it directly into AudioVault. The bit rate and the audio chain made it sound like absolute shit. It sounds like this is what happened here. You can be sure they don't have an actual CD to rip it from.SteveS wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:51 pmAs someone that has never worked in radio that's amazing to me that YouTube recordings would actually be played.I think Smooth Criminal was ripped from YouTube and they didn't get the right version. Mike Kernen used to jump us for downloading shitty YouTube videos and loading them into Vault for over-the-air play. Sounded like garbage.
"Internet is no more like radio than intravenous feeding is like fine dining."
-TurkeyTop
-TurkeyTop
- Colonel Flagg
- Posts: 1367
- Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:54 pm
Re: WRIF's audio sounds like shit again
I'm going to go out on a limb here... I'm guessing whoever was doing this was from the "I listen to everything online" generation?Mega Hertz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:11 pmYou better believe it. All three stations got a "talking to" from the engineering department about that. We would either put it in ProTools or run it directly into AudioVault. The bit rate and the audio chain made it sound like absolute shit. It sounds like this is what happened here. You can be sure they don't have an actual CD to rip it from.SteveS wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:51 pmAs someone that has never worked in radio that's amazing to me that YouTube recordings would actually be played.I think Smooth Criminal was ripped from YouTube and they didn't get the right version. Mike Kernen used to jump us for downloading shitty YouTube videos and loading them into Vault for over-the-air play. Sounded like garbage.
"Don't you knock when you enter a room?"
-
- Posts: 4270
- Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:09 pm
- Location: Brighton
Re: WRIF's audio sounds like shit again
I believe so, but "longer tenured on earth" people may have been culprits, also. However, I loaded the library for WCSX for a couple of years. While I am in that "download everything" age group, or was, I went in song by song with the best CD version available. Some titles were brought in from home from my personal collection. Recorded into AudioVault at proper levels. If you ever hear the edit on "Money" by Pink Floyd, that's my handiwork. A perfect word edit in 7/8 time was a challenge lolColonel Flagg wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:28 pmI'm going to go out on a limb here... I'm guessing whoever was doing this was from the "I listen to everything online" generation?Mega Hertz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:11 pmYou better believe it. All three stations got a "talking to" from the engineering department about that. We would either put it in ProTools or run it directly into AudioVault. The bit rate and the audio chain made it sound like absolute shit. It sounds like this is what happened here. You can be sure they don't have an actual CD to rip it from.SteveS wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:51 pmAs someone that has never worked in radio that's amazing to me that YouTube recordings would actually be played.I think Smooth Criminal was ripped from YouTube and they didn't get the right version. Mike Kernen used to jump us for downloading shitty YouTube videos and loading them into Vault for over-the-air play. Sounded like garbage.
But shitty mp3s going out over the air sounded like absolute, grade A, USDA choice shit. And it does, and that's what I think happened with Smooth Criminal. Get a rip of it anywhere you can and get it loaded for airplay. Maybe even listen to it on YouTube and see if it sounds like the version WRIF has.
"Internet is no more like radio than intravenous feeding is like fine dining."
-TurkeyTop
-TurkeyTop
-
- Posts: 4270
- Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:09 pm
- Location: Brighton
Re: WRIF's audio sounds like shit again
"Internet is no more like radio than intravenous feeding is like fine dining."
-TurkeyTop
-TurkeyTop
-
- Posts: 206
- Joined: Sun Dec 26, 2004 12:49 pm
- Location: Just stole Bill Murray's Budweiser at Wrigley
- Contact:
Re: WRIF's audio sounds like shit again
Note to WGN... bring back Steve Cochran ASAP.
EDIT: Steve Cochran IS BACK AT WGN!!!
EDIT: Steve Cochran IS BACK AT WGN!!!
- MWmetalhead
- Site Admin
- Posts: 12176
- Joined: Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:23 am
Re: WRIF's audio sounds like shit again
The first one does indeed sound close to the horrendous recording WRIF plays, although I'd say the WRIF version sounds worse yet since their audio settings artificially speed up the song.
Morgan Wallen is a piece of garbage.
-
- Posts: 121
- Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:26 am
- Location: 49270
Re: WRIF's audio sounds like shit again
Not only that, but I've learned to recognize when other stations use the same shitty processor as WRIF.....It adds an overall tinny and digital sound to the audio no matter how they have it set up.MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:31 amThe first one does indeed sound close to the horrendous recording WRIF plays, although I'd say the WRIF version sounds worse yet since their audio settings artificially speed up the song.
My DTV DX reports
http://www.rabbitears.info/dxlocation.php?id=257
http://www.rabbitears.info/dxlocation.php?id=257
- MWmetalhead
- Site Admin
- Posts: 12176
- Joined: Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:23 am
Re: WRIF's audio sounds like shit again
There were brief periods this past summer where WRIF's audio sounded really good, then days later, it would start sounding like crud again.
There's something in the "stack" that makes it sound so piss poor.
There's something in the "stack" that makes it sound so piss poor.
Morgan Wallen is a piece of garbage.
-
- Posts: 121
- Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:26 am
- Location: 49270
Re: WRIF's audio sounds like shit again
We could be hearing different things, but the tinny crapshot sound that I notice is definitely from some type of digital processor. Can be heard clearly on WCSX and WLLZ as well. I've heard it on several out of market stations as well, notoriously WIIL. Interestingly, it's most noticeable to me during electric guitar prominent music, especially if a single note is rang out for a bit. I notice it a lot during Volbeat songs.MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:56 pmThere were brief periods this past summer where WRIF's audio sounded really good, then days later, it would start sounding like crud again.
There's something in the "stack" that makes it sound so piss poor.
It's also long been annoying that analog compression (while likely done with a digital device) and processing are still used on the streams sent to the HD encoder. We don't need compression and limiting on the digital side, just makes the audio quality sound crappier than it would be in the first place.
My DTV DX reports
http://www.rabbitears.info/dxlocation.php?id=257
http://www.rabbitears.info/dxlocation.php?id=257
- MWmetalhead
- Site Admin
- Posts: 12176
- Joined: Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:23 am
Re: WRIF's audio sounds like shit again
My Hero by Foo Fighters sounds awful with WRIF's horrible processing.
Morgan Wallen is a piece of garbage.
- MWmetalhead
- Site Admin
- Posts: 12176
- Joined: Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:23 am
Re: WRIF's audio sounds like shit again
"Monsters" by Shinedown is another song that sounds squashed thanks to WRIF's engineering incompetence.
Morgan Wallen is a piece of garbage.