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RIP 89X

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Re: RIP 89X

Post by fuzzpower » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:07 pm

I heard both 88.7 and 93.9 today for the first time since the change. Not a country fan, but the audio quality on 88.7 is pretty good. Still lost their preset.

93.9 is hot garbage like I thought. I was surprised to heard commercials so soon- perhaps the former River advertisers? They played something like 30 commercials in a row.

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Re: RIP 89X

Post by Chrocket87 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:09 pm

No way. Of all the country stations in town, 99.5 is king. I’d rather have the dominant Subway in town than be the only Indian restaurant in the blue collar white suburb.



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Re: RIP 89X

Post by Mega Hertz » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:09 pm

Chrocket87 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:09 pm
No way. Of all the country stations in town, 99.5 is king. I’d rather have the dominant Subway in town than be the only Indian restaurant in the blue collar white suburb.
That may be true, but that's what I get for thinking outside the box. Hasn't YCD been slipping recently? Or have they made another recovery?


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Re: RIP 89X

Post by stopnswop2 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:22 pm

Mega Hertz wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:09 pm
Chrocket87 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:09 pm
No way. Of all the country stations in town, 99.5 is king. I’d rather have the dominant Subway in town than be the only Indian restaurant in the blue collar white suburb.
That may be true, but that's what I get for thinking outside the box. Hasn't YCD been slipping recently? Or have they made another recovery?
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Re: RIP 89X

Post by Mega Hertz » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:54 pm

Okay, I'm gonna be honest...I hate country music post 1990 or so, and preferred the breeze and alternative (not what they are playing now), so I would shed no tears if 99.5 flipped.

What DOES suck, however, is people getting fired over format flips. If I knew they were keeping their paychecks, I'd feel much different.


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Re: RIP 89X

Post by RingtailedFox » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:55 pm

99.5 WYCD has been slipping a bit, mostly due to listeners deciding to try out 93.1 Nash FM (99.5 was pulling in 8's for a while, now they're down to a 5, while Nash went from low 1's to a 3 or so...) but it's still a *very* successful country station, and clearly rules the roost in the area in regards to country music stations... So... no, I won't tear you a new asshole, as you feared... I just politely disagree, and think flipping yet another successful radio station to something unknown and untested and unsure might backfire spectacularly just as likely as it is to succeed (or at least match current rates of listening popularity)


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RIP 89X

Post by thatonedude » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:21 pm

Huh... I thought 93.1 was still a dumpster fire...

EDIT: 93.1 went from a 3.7 last month to a 2.6. Holy shit, I’m somewhat surprised it got that high. It hovered around the 2’s for a while...

Interested to see how 98.7 does once the dust settles... I can probably take a guess, unfortunately.

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Re: RIP 89X

Post by RingtailedFox » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:31 am

93.1 Nash FM got a 3.7??? that can't be right...


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Re: RIP 89X

Post by dirtymind410 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:45 pm

Chrocket87 wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:40 pm
https://radioinsight.com/headlines/2014 ... YNaIxtvxS0

After thirty years as some form of Modern Rock, it looks like they’re finally throwing in the towel. This station was the soundtrack to my teen and college-aged years, but like most of the market, I think I’ve barely listened to it in the last five years.

Any guesses as to what’s next? Them being a Canadian station makes it hard to guess, as I’m not sure what format holes are in Windsor and any change to target Detroit again cannot run afoul of Cancon regulations.
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Re: RIP 89X

Post by MWmetalhead » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:15 pm

WYCD in spring shifted its music very intensively in a country/rhythmic, current intensive direction and paid the price in the ratings.

WDRQ defeated it in A25-54 and A18-34 for two or three consecutive surveys.

WYCD quickly wised up, backed off on that junk, and began including more library material in the playlist again. Upon making those revisions, WYCD's ratings rebounded.

88.7 will probably get some listeners downriver and in Monroe County, where its signal is much stronger than either 93.1 or 99.5, but from, say, 5 Mile Rd northward - its listenership will likely prove to be very small. I don't see it being much of a factor on either 93.1 or 99.5 from a ratings standpoint, and certainly not a factor from a sales standpoint.

In the 14 Mile & Woodward area, 88.7's indoor reception sucks. It's a bit better in southern Macomb County but far from great.


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Re: RIP 89X

Post by Mega Hertz » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:57 pm

I'm gonna set up the old Kenwood analog tuner tonight and check the signal strength of 88.7 out here. Sometimes it came in better than Detroit proper stations. There's a lot of rural out here, it would probably fare well in this area.

Not in this house, though.


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Re: RIP 89X

Post by Mega Hertz » Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:14 pm

It just occurred to me...when 89x started up, weren't they playing what could have been considered "snowflake music" for the times? In 1990-91, it was all about the butt rock...Crue, Poison, Whitesnake...basically, the playlist for any mainstream FM rock station today. I found a commercial for 89x from 92 or so that touted Depeche Mode, the Cure, groups like that.

It wasn't until grunge and pop-punk that they really hit a groove as far as rock that could be considered alternative. In the early days, "Modern Rock" had a different meaning.

I could hear things changing in 97, 98 with all the rap rock, industrial metal and the "me, too" post grunge bands. I still listened, though.

So what is the difference between snowflake music then and snowflake music now? At least Depeche Mode was good lol

Edit: here is the commercial. It must be from 1993. Hard to believe Counting Crows was considered modern rock. You can't escape Mr. Jones on any library hits station.

https://youtu.be/wMMhz_NlY28


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Re: RIP 89X

Post by MWmetalhead » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:57 pm

Great commercial.

Just because those artists didn't put out loud, angry songs doesn't make them "snowflake" artists. (OK, Depeche Mode falls in that camp perhaps but not the others.)

The song writing and musical ability was so much better back then. No fake music generated in the studio. Great lyrics. Real instruments.


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Re: RIP 89X

Post by MWmetalhead » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:08 pm

Maybe it's a fluke, maybe not, but WLLZ sounds better than usual this evening. Still some very tired songs in the mix, but the selection of 90s and early 00s songs has improved. I also heard "Rusty Cage" by Soundgarden this morning.

I still don't understand why the hell they don't play Audioslave, though.


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Re: RIP 89X

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:53 pm

Well, I guess it's time to replace 93.9 with 106.7.


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