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Gretchen the Media Queen

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Re: Gretchen the Media Queen

Post by JLesinski » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:13 pm

Rate This wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:56 am
JLesinski wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:37 am
R Bedell wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:14 am
NPR ??? The Bastion of DNC Propaganda in slow motion.
It makes you wonder why the news shows never put up those statistics. Why dont they ever say that the USA is actually 24th in case-fatality ratio? That we are doing better than 23 other countries?

XX new deaths!!! is pretty much all we hear.
Because the point isn’t deaths it’s cases.
Holy crap. You're serious, arent you?

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Re: Gretchen the Media Queen

Post by R Bedell » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:16 pm

YUP.....he is.



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Re: Gretchen the Media Queen

Post by JLesinski » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:30 pm

96-99% recovery rate. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE CASES!



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Re: Gretchen the Media Queen

Post by Rate This » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:07 pm

JLesinski wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:30 pm
96-99% recovery rate. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE CASES!
The entire thing is about not overloading the hospital system by at this point having the flu and corona run over the top of each other. When Arizona, Texas, Florida, Oklahoma and other states had their issues a month and a half ago several ICU’s hit capacity or exceeded it. Losing that bed space is the issue, not deaths.

Just like in the initial wave in March ICU’s began to meet or exceed Capacity in New York and other states.

You can advocate for heard immunity if you wish but keep in mind that if everybody got it that would mean about 10,000,000 deaths at the end at current rates. Not exactly worth the risk and you can count on about 25 percent of the remaining 324,000,000 people yet to get it or more needing ICU admittance. We can’t handle that.



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Re: Gretchen the Media Queen

Post by JLesinski » Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:25 pm

Rate This wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:07 pm
JLesinski wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:30 pm
96-99% recovery rate. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE CASES!
The entire thing is about not overloading the hospital system by at this point having the flu and corona run over the top of each other. When Arizona, Texas, Florida, Oklahoma and other states had their issues a month and a half ago several ICU’s hit capacity or exceeded it. Losing that bed space is the issue, not deaths.

Just like in the initial wave in March ICU’s began to meet or exceed Capacity in New York and other states.

You can advocate for heard immunity if you wish but keep in mind that if everybody got it that would mean about 10,000,000 deaths at the end at current rates. Not exactly worth the risk and you can count on about 25 percent of the remaining 324,000,000 people yet to get it or more needing ICU admittance. We can’t handle that.
Except Whitmer said months ago that the goal was to flatten the curve. The curve is flat. Hospitals are NOT overloaded. You take a risk every time you go outside. Every time you drive to work may be your last. I might get shot going for a walk. Life is an eternal risk/reward scenario. Whitmer's badgering and over reach is political and spiteful now. And before you say it or think it: I am NOT advocating going back to normal. Masks, social distancing and common sense protocols still should be followed. The overall point is that the death rate is dropping, the survival rate is extremely high and our system is NOT overloaded. Yet, she is talking about moving us back a level.



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Re: Gretchen the Media Queen

Post by armchair pd » Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:56 pm

Whatever this debacle started out as, it's 90% politics and 10% science at this point on all sides.

I AM advocating for normal. There are people who are at risk from Covid. Protect them.

If masks social distancing etc. work, open up. Not this pussfied 25% capacity clownery, 100%.

Keeping it closed, reduced capacity or moving back means none of that stuff is very effective.

It's not brain surgery



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Re: Gretchen the Media Queen

Post by Rate This » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:32 pm

armchair pd wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:56 pm
Whatever this debacle started out as, it's 90% politics and 10% science at this point on all sides.

I AM advocating for normal. There are people who are at risk from Covid. Protect them.

If masks social distancing etc. work, open up. Not this pussfied 25% capacity clownery, 100%.

Keeping it closed, reduced capacity or moving back means none of that stuff is very effective.

It's not brain surgery
How are you going to socially distance at 100% capacity? 100% is predicated on everybody being elbow to asshole which makes it harder to socially distance... Apparently visualizing a crowd in a room isn’t your thing?



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Re: Gretchen the Media Queen

Post by Bryce » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:53 pm

How about we let people decide what level of risk they would like to assume. I was at a trendy nightclub/restaurant about a month ago. It was full. Elbow to elbow at the bar and table seating at capacity. No one including staff were wearing masks. Yet, people chose to be there. Not one of the dozen or so people I know were there that night contracted Covid.

If you want zero risk or are in a high risk demographic, quarantine yourself. Don't go out. Stay home. Get your stuff delivered.

Or, as some impressive people do, eat a diet that promotes great gut health. The bugs that live in your gut are the first line of defense against catching anything. I know a over 60 guy who never gets a flu shot and hasn't caught the flu in over 20 years. No shots. This same over 60 guy comes into contact with dozens of maskless people a day and hasn't gotten the Covid either.


Are you certain Nancy didn't think the sign on the door said SALOON instead of Salon?

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Re: Gretchen the Media Queen

Post by armchair pd » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:54 pm

Rate This wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:32 pm
armchair pd wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:56 pm
Whatever this debacle started out as, it's 90% politics and 10% science at this point on all sides.

I AM advocating for normal. There are people who are at risk from Covid. Protect them.

If masks social distancing etc. work, open up. Not this pussfied 25% capacity clownery, 100%.

Keeping it closed, reduced capacity or moving back means none of that stuff is very effective.

It's not brain surgery
How are you going to socially distance at 100% capacity? 100% is predicated on everybody being elbow to asshole which makes it harder to socially distance... Apparently visualizing a crowd in a room isn’t your thing?
I think I can picture that sport, but thanks.

And wasn't Big Wretch herself asshole to elbow with 'protesters' a few months back? Yep.

Aren't 'protesters' asshole to elbow nightly? Yep.

But I'll be damned no outbreaks.. but those rednecks at a bar ARE KILLING US ALL! :lol



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Re: Gretchen the Media Queen

Post by Rate This » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:59 pm

armchair pd wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:54 pm
Rate This wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:32 pm
armchair pd wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:56 pm
Whatever this debacle started out as, it's 90% politics and 10% science at this point on all sides.

I AM advocating for normal. There are people who are at risk from Covid. Protect them.

If masks social distancing etc. work, open up. Not this pussfied 25% capacity clownery, 100%.

Keeping it closed, reduced capacity or moving back means none of that stuff is very effective.

It's not brain surgery
How are you going to socially distance at 100% capacity? 100% is predicated on everybody being elbow to asshole which makes it harder to socially distance... Apparently visualizing a crowd in a room isn’t your thing?
I think I can picture that sport, but thanks.

And wasn't Big Wretch herself asshole to elbow with 'protesters' a few months back? Yep.

Aren't 'protesters' asshole to elbow nightly? Yep.

But I'll be damned no outbreaks.. but those rednecks at a bar ARE KILLING US ALL! :lol
We have rednecks at Trump rallies, college kids partying like its 1999 and protestors run amok... of the three the protestors seem to have the most masks...



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Re: Gretchen the Media Queen

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:06 am

armchair pd wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:54 pm
Rate This wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:32 pm
armchair pd wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:56 pm
Whatever this debacle started out as, it's 90% politics and 10% science at this point on all sides.

I AM advocating for normal. There are people who are at risk from Covid. Protect them.

If masks social distancing etc. work, open up. Not this pussfied 25% capacity clownery, 100%.

Keeping it closed, reduced capacity or moving back means none of that stuff is very effective.

It's not brain surgery
How are you going to socially distance at 100% capacity? 100% is predicated on everybody being elbow to asshole which makes it harder to socially distance... Apparently visualizing a crowd in a room isn’t your thing?
I think I can picture that sport, but thanks.

And wasn't Big Wretch herself asshole to elbow with 'protesters' a few months back? Yep.

Aren't 'protesters' asshole to elbow nightly? Yep.

But I'll be damned no outbreaks.. but those rednecks at a bar ARE KILLING US ALL! :lol
They are outside and wearing masks. Both of which significantly lowers infections.


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Re: Gretchen the Media Queen

Post by audiophile » Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:44 am

audiophile wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:56 am
audiophile wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:45 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:36 pm
Fake.
What part of the demonstration is fake?

OR did the test prove that masks are giving a false sense of security?

OR that tests don't meet the narrative of some political agenda? (Namely for Whitmer, and Against Trump?)

OR simply better masks should be worn? (I'm not a hypocrite - I always wear a p100 mask, because other ones are a joke)

What did the no-masks policy of Sweden do the case load compared to Michigan?
Are you going to avoid answering this MCRF?
Crickets.


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Re: Gretchen the Media Queen

Post by Getoffmylawn » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:34 pm

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These businesses need to say enough is enough. OPEN UP REGARDLESS of what your highness declares to the peasants. What is the state going to do? Shut down everyone? Lmao. Band together and tell her to eat a dick. This petition to pull her powers can’t come quick enough.

Again, if you are pussy, lock yourself in a fucking closet and hide from the virus. The majority of us do not need protection.

Oh, and one of the top underlying issues is diabetes. WHY IN THE NAME OF FUCK is it MY PROBLEM? It is YOUR PROBLEM you are an out of shape, fat fuck. Fix your OWN PROBLEMS, don’t expect others to be inconvenienced because you are an out of shape piece of shit.
I repeat: not only are you a troll. Your are a lazy troll.

Come on. The whole "fuck everyone else, I'm inconvenienced" line represents the bare minimum effort you could put into trying to rile the folks up. You want to offend me? Fine, but at least put a little work into it.

And again, I have to wonder at how hollow of an existence a person must have if the only way that they can achieve a sense of fulfillment is to spew insults. But hey, don't worry about my opinion, tough guy. You go right on ahead swearing with the caps lock on if that's what it takes to feel good about yourself.



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Re: Gretchen the Media Queen

Post by R Bedell » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:59 pm

I repeat: not only are you a troll. Your are a lazy troll.
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Re: Gretchen the Media Queen

Post by Matt » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:54 pm

Rate This wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:42 am
Matt wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:53 am
lidoshuffle wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:26 am
Tired of her threatening us citizens of Michigan everytime she has a presser, "If I don't see Michiganders masking up and numbers going down I will take us back to phase whatever and shut it all down again" That is being a bully....
I'm cautiously optimistic that the MSC will end her unilateral actions. Also, it looks like if that does or doesn't happen, the 1945 law will likely be overturned: https://www.freep.com/story/news/politi ... 780148002/
There is a real chance that if these are invalidated we’ll get laws from our brilliant legislature like the one proposed in Ohio allowing places to opt out of mask mandates.... which defeats the fucking purpose of a mask mandate. So it’s not surprising she’d want to hold onto the power and not hand it over to them. The results would probably be idiotic bills that prioritize opening up over public health which would follow the national line from Jason Miller this morning... “time to reopen and go back to normal in the country”... as if 1000 deaths a day is somehow just fine and dandy in the country and we aren’t hurtling towards a very bad winter?
Are you old enough to have seen and adored Tommy Boy? If so, please remember the point about guarantees on a box. Then, realize that guarantees are more effective than masks.



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